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U. Of California Student Gov't Passes Resolution To Divest . . . From America… - EagleRockCafe - 02-09-2015 10:14 PM

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The next step is to reject any money from American tax payers, if the students are serious.

Quote: The University of California Student Association board – which represents all 233,000 students enrolled in the UC system’s 10 campuses – approved a resolution on Sunday that calls on the system’s leaders to financially divest from the United States.

The measure cited alleged human rights violations by America such as drone strikes that have killed civilians, and claimed the country’s criminal justice system is racist, among other accusations.

The “Resolution Toward Socially Responsible Investment at the University of California” passed with an overwhelming majority vote of 11-1-3.

“The government of the United States of America is engaged in drone strikes that have killed over 2,400 people in Pakistan and Yemen, many of them civilians,” the resolution stated. “The government oversees, by far, the highest rate of imprisonment in the world, and racial and ethnic minorities are disproportionately targeted by law enforcement agencies, particularly for drug-related offences. 400,000 undocumenteducal immigrants are held in detention centers every year, and millions have been deported since the current administration took office, and the government is directly supporting and propping up numerous dictatorships around the world with weapons sales and foreign aid.”

The resolution also called on UC system leaders “to withdraw investments in securities, endowments, mutual funds, and other monetary instruments with holdings” from the governments of Brazil, Egypt, Indonesia, Russia, Turkey, Israel, Sri Lanka and Mexico, as well as the U.S.

“This resolution aims neither to condemn entire countries, peoples, or communities nor to determine political solutions, but is solely aimed at ending our university’s support of governments that directly engage in and enable human rights violations,” it stated.[…]

But it’s rare to see a call to divest from America itself.

“Think about that. If they had their way, the student government of the U. Cal. system would require divestment from U.S. Treasuries and most of the world,” Cornell University law Professor William Jacobson points out on Legal Insurrection, responding to the vote. “The U. Cal. student government has proven a point I’ve made repeatedly in terms of the academic boycott: If you are going to boycott Israel, then you need to apply those standards to the whole world, which will result in boycotting yourselves.”

“I’m not glad that the Israel divestment passed, but at least it passed combined with a resolution which made the anti-Israel students and U. Cal student government look like fools.”

But student groups who helped passed the measures have pledged to take their fight to the UC Regents, the 26-member board which governs the University of California.

http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/21178/


RE: U. Of California Student Gov't Passes Resolution To Divest . . . From America… - smn1256 - 02-09-2015 10:17 PM

Is this what college teaches kids today - stupidity. College is supposed to prepare kids for their futures. Now all they have are huge college loan debts and no available jobs.


RE: U. Of California Student Gov't Passes Resolution To Divest . . . From America… - Fo Shizzle - 02-09-2015 10:21 PM

Good Riddance.


RE: U. Of California Student Gov't Passes Resolution To Divest . . . From America… - usmbacker - 02-09-2015 10:25 PM

Muslims bow and pray to Mecca. American Libs bow and pray to Berkley.


RE: U. Of California Student Gov't Passes Resolution To Divest . . . From America… - HeartOfDixie - 02-09-2015 10:31 PM

Do it!


RE: U. Of California Student Gov't Passes Resolution To Divest . . . From America… - SuperFlyBCat - 02-09-2015 10:31 PM

Future leaders and investors for CALPERS, http://www.calpers.ca.gov/index.jsp?bc=/about/home.xml

They suck as investors.


RE: U. Of California Student Gov't Passes Resolution To Divest . . . From America… - UConn-SMU - 02-09-2015 10:34 PM

That's truly embarrassing.

How many are taking taxpayer money for student loans?


RE: U. Of California Student Gov't Passes Resolution To Divest . . . From America… - MemphisTiger15 - 02-09-2015 10:51 PM

be nice if Bezerkly just fell off into the ocean


RE: U. Of California Student Gov't Passes Resolution To Divest . . . From America… - miko33 - 02-09-2015 10:54 PM

Maybe the students are really worried about a collapsing bond market when yields eventually rise.


RE: U. Of California Student Gov't Passes Resolution To Divest . . . From America… - UConn-SMU - 02-09-2015 11:46 PM

(02-09-2015 10:54 PM)miko33 Wrote:  Maybe the students are really worried about a collapsing bond market when yields eventually rise.

Or maybe they're spoiled and naive brats.


RE: U. Of California Student Gov't Passes Resolution To Divest . . . From America… - JMUDunk - 02-10-2015 01:37 AM

Oh, oh please do this. Then Gov' Moonbeam can scramble the fellow travelers and they can find a better place to invest. This would be precious, except when the entire system goes bankrupt, these whiny, entitled, trust fund occupy stupid street maroons will come crawling back to either daddy or BIG daddy. Then demand their loans for the useless degree in Human Studies or other such crap naval gazing majors like poetry or whatever, be paid for by someone else.

I remember a time when you either worked to get through college, or perhaps *Gasp* you did ROTC or the GI bill.

The good news, sportsfans? Not a ONE of these pampered morons will be competing with you for real job. Cashier at the local Subway? perhaps. But that's your problem.


RE: U. Of California Student Gov't Passes Resolution To Divest . . . From America… - VA49er - 02-10-2015 08:43 AM

The real world is going to kick those students in their collective as$.


RE: U. Of California Student Gov't Passes Resolution To Divest . . . From America… - QuestionSocratic - 02-10-2015 08:48 AM

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RE: U. Of California Student Gov't Passes Resolution To Divest . . . From America… - miko33 - 02-10-2015 09:11 AM

From the list below, are there any countries that you would never invest in because you don't like their politics, human rights records, etc. Would anyone have cared if the countries in bold were the only ones selected by the UC student council as places to not invest UC money due to moral objections?

Quote:The resolution also called on UC system leaders “to withdraw investments in securities, endowments, mutual funds, and other monetary instruments with holdings” from the governments of Brazil, Egypt, Indonesia, Russia, Turkey, Israel, Sri Lanka and Mexico, as well as the U.S.

If you extend this further, how many people would love to have the right to not pay their taxes if they felt the current political party in power is spending too much money? How many would want to opt out of SSI payroll taxes knowing that the money you put into SSI is not going into an SSI trust fund but is actually being used by the gov't for general expenses?

I find it ironic that some of the people crowing the loudest about UC students wanting to divest the university's treasury securities on moral grounds would have no problem with defunding parts of the gov't due to moral/political objections, and to even go as far as greatly cut taxes due to objections to U.S. spending being out of control. I believe that what the students voted on is their rights to object to things about America that they don't like. By the same token, many of us are no different than these students because we too would like to stop sending taxes and money to Washington if it would mean that the gov't would change how they budget and how they spend our taxes that fund the gov't.

This is exercising liberties to object to what you find offensive with the gov't, and I have zero problems with what they did.


RE: U. Of California Student Gov't Passes Resolution To Divest . . . From America… - Lord Stanley - 02-10-2015 09:20 AM

By divesting from the USA and other countries that don't fit the moral compass of a 22 year old far left Berkeley liberal, where on earth is the University of California supposed to invest their money?

This is actually a serious question. Do they invest in Canadian maple futures? New Zealand wool stock? Bahamanian salt flat real estate?

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Berkeley?


RE: U. Of California Student Gov't Passes Resolution To Divest . . . From America… - miko33 - 02-10-2015 09:24 AM

(02-10-2015 09:20 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  By divesting from the USA and other countries that don't fit the moral compass of a 22 far left Berkeley liberal, where on earth is the University of California supposed to invest their money?

This is actually a serious question. Do they invest in Canadian maple futures? New Zealand wool stock? Bahamanian salt flat real estate?

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Berkeley?

Municipal bonds, corporate bonds, bank CDs, real estate, commodities futures, etc.

Basically, they would have to invest in state/local muni bonds and corporate bonds for safety and maybe beef up exposure to REITs.


RE: U. Of California Student Gov't Passes Resolution To Divest . . . From America… - QuestionSocratic - 02-10-2015 09:28 AM

(02-10-2015 09:20 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  By divesting from the USA and other countries that don't fit the moral compass of a 22 far left Berkeley liberal, where on earth is the University of California supposed to invest their money?

This is actually a serious question. Do they invest in Canadian maple futures? New Zealand wool stock? Bahamanian salt flat real estate?

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Berkeley?

Good question and after my previous sarcastic post, a serious one seems appropriate.

The simple answer is that in their perfect world, communism reigns and all the means of production and commerce are controlled by the benevolent central government. Therefore, there are no owners (capitalists) and stocks would not exist.


RE: U. Of California Student Gov't Passes Resolution To Divest . . . From America… - LSU04_08 - 02-10-2015 09:36 AM

(02-09-2015 10:17 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  Is this what college teaches kids today - stupidity. College is supposed to prepare kids for their futures. Now all they have are huge college loan debts and no available jobs.

Here's the problem, and it's the same problem we have with many other issues today. A very small number of people voting (and speaking) for thousands or millions of other people.

The “Resolution Toward Socially Responsible Investment at the University of California” passed with an overwhelming majority vote of 11-1-3.


RE: U. Of California Student Gov't Passes Resolution To Divest . . . From America… - smn1256 - 02-10-2015 09:41 AM

These are the same kids that occupied something demanding that their loans be paid off.....right?


RE: U. Of California Student Gov't Passes Resolution To Divest . . . From America… - VA49er - 02-10-2015 09:44 AM

(02-10-2015 09:24 AM)miko33 Wrote:  
(02-10-2015 09:20 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  By divesting from the USA and other countries that don't fit the moral compass of a 22 far left Berkeley liberal, where on earth is the University of California supposed to invest their money?

This is actually a serious question. Do they invest in Canadian maple futures? New Zealand wool stock? Bahamanian salt flat real estate?

W
T
F

Berkeley?

Municipal bonds, corporate bonds, bank CDs, real estate, commodities futures, etc.

Basically, they would have to invest in state/local muni bonds and corporate bonds for safety and maybe beef up exposure to REITs.

And make negligible return, except maybe for REITs, but that was last year. Not really how all this works.