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CUSA will be patient with UAB - JMU2004 - 01-29-2015 05:29 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/writer/jon-solomon/25007043/c-usa-league-will-be-patient-on-whether-to-keep-uab
The saga continues, and we have no potential home until this gets resolved.
RE: CUSA will be patient with UAB - BleedingPurple - 01-29-2015 05:42 PM
Let's think about this for a minute. If UAB doesn't play FB for even one season, they will have to start over as an FCS team for at least two seasons. Basically, they'd have to do what Charlotte has done. Though, if you read the rules, they could possibly be the whipping boy for a few season's and be all of CUSA's one FCS game and fill their schedule. FCS teams can play as many FBS games as they want, its FBS teams cannot have but one FCS game count towards being Bowl eligible.
RE: CUSA will be patient with UAB - olddawg - 01-29-2015 07:11 PM
I particularly found this statement interesting regarding the gospel of a Carr Report:
" A new outside consultant is going to be hired to review financial numbers and assumptions from a previous consultant’s report."
...Garbage in, garbage out.
CUSA will be patient with UAB - jmusuperfan - 01-29-2015 07:29 PM
Uab as a bb only doesn't preclude cusa from adding an all sports school. Heck it will take 2 years for us to get in anyway
RE: CUSA will be patient with UAB - CameramanJ - 01-29-2015 07:58 PM
"...We're going to stay in communication and monitor the situation as UAB tries to understand what it's going to do.”
AHA
RE: CUSA will be patient with UAB - DoubleDDuke - 01-29-2015 08:08 PM
No idea why CUSA would want UAB at this point. They've totally torn down their program and won't be competitive any time soon even if they bring it back. IMO JMU is actually a lot more attractive than UAB at this point, not that it really matters. Doesn't matter what I think but rather what CUSA leadership thinks. I think CUSA also has to count on some attrition too. They shouldn't sit around and wait on UAB. They're not moving the needle in any case.
RE: CUSA will be patient with UAB - POTUS#4 - 01-29-2015 08:50 PM
"We will be patient" = "We have no consensus on where we go from here anyway"
They will be patient right up until the point when they agree on a better idea - then they'll be impatient.
RE: CUSA will be patient with UAB - POTUS#4 - 01-29-2015 08:55 PM
(01-29-2015 07:11 PM)olddawg Wrote: I particularly found this statement interesting regarding the gospel of a Carr Report:
" A new outside consultant is going to be hired to review financial numbers and assumptions from a previous consultant’s report."
...Garbage in, garbage out.
Any new consultant will almost certainly find fault with the Carr numbers. It will be fascinating to see how Carr defends itself or if they'll just take one for the team, so to speak.
RE: CUSA will be patient with UAB - jmusuperfan - 01-29-2015 09:13 PM
Carr helped get Withers so I will give him some points for that....outside of that I think his "study" business has been exposed
RE: CUSA will be patient with UAB - JMaddy - 01-30-2015 09:19 AM
Even though this isn't good for us I actually applaud the CUSA for this move. A conference looking out for the best interests of one of its members. Imagine that!
RE: CUSA will be patient with UAB - jmusuperfan - 01-30-2015 11:34 AM
http://hamptonroads.com/2015/01/conference-usa-meetings-conclude-no-decision-uab
RE: CUSA will be patient with UAB - CameramanJ - 01-30-2015 12:09 PM
(01-30-2015 11:34 AM)jmusuperfan Wrote: http://hamptonroads.com/2015/01/conference-usa-meetings-conclude-no-decision-uab
As always, the comment section is good for a laugh.
CUSA will be patient with UAB - Potomac - 01-30-2015 12:37 PM
(01-30-2015 12:09 PM)CameramanJ Wrote:(01-30-2015 11:34 AM)jmusuperfan Wrote: http://hamptonroads.com/2015/01/conference-usa-meetings-conclude-no-decision-uab
As always, the comment section is good for a laugh.
Pssh, best comment I've ever seen. You should read the DNR comments on JMU sports articles. Nothing but haters.
CUSA will be patient with UAB - JMUDukeDawg - 01-30-2015 06:24 PM
I don't see how UAB could add football back at this point. By doing so the admin is pretty much admitting they put very little thought into what could end up costing the university millions of dollars (if they add football back).
RE: CUSA will be patient with UAB - NJDuke97 - 01-30-2015 07:35 PM
"We decided as a conference a long time ago to become an all sports conference" "We had teams like Saint Louis, Charlotte, Marquette and DePaul that didn't have footbal and we just decided back then that we preferred an all-sports model" Isn't this revisionist history by the CUSA commissioner? I could be wrong but didn't those schools decide to leave CUSA for better basketball conferences (Big East and A-10) rather than being shown the door because they didn't sponsor football?
RE: CUSA will be patient with UAB - CameramanJ - 01-30-2015 07:44 PM
(01-30-2015 07:35 PM)NJDuke97 Wrote: "We decided as a conference a long time ago to become an all sports conference" "We had teams like Saint Louis, Charlotte, Marquette and DePaul that didn't have footbal and we just decided back then that we preferred an all-sports model" Isn't this revisionist history by the CUSA commissioner? I could be wrong but didn't those schools decide to leave CUSA for better basketball conferences (Big East and A-10) rather than being shown the door because they didn't sponsor football?
From what I've heard, Charlotte maintains that it got kicked out. That's why them getting football and rejoining was a thing. I can't speak for any of the other schools.
RE: CUSA will be patient with UAB - NJDuke97 - 01-31-2015 09:56 AM
http://articles.latimes.com/2003/nov/05/sports/sp-newswire5
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2003-10-27/sports/0310270130_1_blue-demons-depaul-conference-usa
Don't get me wrong I'd be happy about CUSA all sports for JMU but nice try CUSA commissioner with that spin. I guess since it's 10 years ago he thought he could slip that one by as if they were still the CUSA of Cincy, Louisville, Memphis, etc. and had some "hand" in the college sports landscape . Even back then they were below the Big East in the pecking order as the Big East was part of the pre BCS auto bid for the big bowl games in football and superior in basketball. It's a nice story to back into after the fact but I'm not buying it. CUSA is still trying to sell a brand and living under a TV contract from when they were a league with top 25 programs. If JMU moves and the financial feasibility of the move is based on this expiring CUSA TV contract revenues I hope they account for the reduced revenue when the contract is re-negotiated. Fans may buy what the CUSA commissioner is selling but TV executives are smart enough to know how different the product is from a decade or even 5 years ago.
RE: CUSA will be patient with UAB - Longhorn - 01-31-2015 11:10 AM
(01-31-2015 09:56 AM)NJDuke97 Wrote: http://articles.latimes.com/2003/nov/05/sports/sp-newswire5
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2003-10-27/sports/0310270130_1_blue-demons-depaul-conference-usa
Don't get me wrong I'd be happy about CUSA all sports for JMU but nice try CUSA commissioner with that spin. I guess since it's 10 years ago he thought he could slip that one by as if they were still the CUSA of Cincy, Louisville, Memphis, etc. and had some "hand" in the college sports landscape . Even back then they were below the Big East in the pecking order as the Big East was part of the pre BCS auto bid for the big bowl games in football and superior in basketball. It's a nice story to back into after the fact but I'm not buying it. CUSA is still trying to sell a brand and living under a TV contract from when they were a league with top 25 programs. If JMU moves and the financial feasibility of the move is based on this expiring CUSA TV contract revenues I hope they account for the reduced revenue when the contract is re-negotiated. Fans may buy what the CUSA commissioner is selling but TV executives are smart enough to know how different the product is from a decade or even 5 years ago.
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RE: CUSA will be patient with UAB - DoubleDDuke - 01-31-2015 02:22 PM
Yeah, he's full of **** with that comment. I mean, I guess that's part of his job is to talk up his conference so I don't really blame him too much but that's kind of laughable.