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UAB Faculty Meeting - Shrack - 12-09-2014 10:40 AM
- (most important) UAB Faculty Athletic Rep was misled on intention of Carr Report. Said he fully supported football and was shut out of decision making process. He says the FAR is supposed to be included in athletics strategy. He told Watts on many occasions that football was moving in the right direction under head coach Bill Clark. When he asked the AD about the Carr report at the USM game, AD Mackin said "he had done all he could do" and would not elaborate. Athletic Rep didn't learn about decision until everyone else did when they were announced. UAB FAR basically infers the Carr report was meant to kill football.
- Faculty report that President Watts told them the decision to end football was never going to be put up to a vote. He is now trying to make amends by having "shared governance" for athletics.
- Past Pres. of national alumni association doesn't support the decision.
- NAS Board Member: The President did not answer our questions.
- UAB students and alumni spoke out, none in favor of the decision to cut football. Many get standing ovations.
- Faculty comments:
Microbio prof: football team needs to be reinstated. Decision was wrong. Says the Carr report was about eliminating football and makes no sense. Says there was no shared governance before because Watts had no desire to have any.
Foreign Language prof: Talks about secret decisions and irresponsible decision making.
Public health prof: Says the undergraduates have spirit and we need to listen to them.
Another prof: The process was failed shared governance.
Another prof: It was evident in meeting yesterday that the President's idea of shared governance does not align. Trust is lost.
Another prof: This is not a for-profit institution and we should have a voice. No one had a voice. Needs to never happen again.
Executive session happening now. I'll update once something happens.
RE: UAB Faculty Meeting - NTTHOR - 12-09-2014 11:12 AM
thanks for the updates...
UAB Faculty Meeting - UTSAMarineVet09 - 12-09-2014 11:44 AM
Let's hope something comes out of the meeting, something positive for UAB and its football program. #FreeUAB
UAB Faculty Meeting - galojah - 12-09-2014 11:47 AM
Very happy to see UAB faculty, alumni, and students fighting for THEIR university.
RE: UAB Faculty Meeting - SApuro - 12-09-2014 12:07 PM
Good stuff. Thanks for keeping us posted.
RE: UAB Faculty Meeting - Shrack - 12-09-2014 12:20 PM
First Resolution: Support of athletics and student athletes, requires transparent reassessment of all athletics
Second Resolution: Vote of no confidence in President Watts.
Will reconvene in January to vote.
RE: UAB Faculty Meeting - goherd17 - 12-09-2014 12:24 PM
(12-09-2014 12:20 PM)Shrack Wrote: First Resolution: Support of athletics and student athletes, requires transparent reassessment of all athletics
Second Resolution: Vote of no confidence in President Watts.
Will reconvene in January to vote.
why not vote now so if football is kept don't loose whole staff and players and have to start over
UAB Faculty Meeting - galojah - 12-09-2014 12:24 PM
It's not typical of faculty to support athletics. This is big and not good for Watts.
RE: UAB Faculty Meeting - Shrack - 12-09-2014 12:25 PM
(12-09-2014 12:24 PM)goherd17 Wrote:(12-09-2014 12:20 PM)Shrack Wrote: First Resolution: Support of athletics and student athletes, requires transparent reassessment of all athletics
Second Resolution: Vote of no confidence in President Watts.
Will reconvene in January to vote.
why not vote now so if football is kept don't loose whole staff and players and have to start over
That would probably be bending the rules. I wish they would too personally, but I have no say in it. The whole staff and players will be gone I think. I don't think there is any saving that. Unfortunate.
RE: UAB Faculty Meeting - goherd17 - 12-09-2014 12:28 PM
keep us posted please good luck
UAB Faculty Meeting - EpicNiner - 12-09-2014 12:33 PM
Uab, good to see your faculty taking leadership in this situation. This is the way it should have been handled from the beginning. Probably can't save the program for next year but hopefully after a year or two you will be playing football in c-usa again.
RE: UAB Faculty Meeting - ThreeifbyLightning - 12-09-2014 12:44 PM
What you guys really need though is a smoking gun.
You need someone on Watts staff or someone who works for the Carr organization to come out and say that the assessments were all rigged. We all know it, but you need a whistle blower.
If that can be uncovered UAB might get football back, because it would then take an overt act by the BoT at Alabama rather than the snake-like maneuvers they have been using to date. And I don't think they would want that PR disaster. Good luck Blazers!
UAB Faculty Meeting - EpicNiner - 12-09-2014 12:55 PM
Uab faculty senate chair says the possible vote of no confidence extends past football and into other issues including the honors college. Looks like the rumors out of uab fans a couple weeks ago about watts trying to kill more than just football were true. This is going to get very interesting if the faculty actually do some digging!
RE: UAB Faculty Meeting - 58-56 - 12-09-2014 12:57 PM
(12-09-2014 12:44 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote: What you guys really need though is a smoking gun.
You need someone on Watts staff or someone who works for the Carr organization to come out and say that the assessments were all rigged. We all know it, but you need a whistle blower.
If that can be uncovered UAB might get football back, because it would then take an overt act by the BoT at Alabama rather than the snake-like maneuvers they have been using to date. And I don't think they would want that PR disaster. Good luck Blazers!
That's what happened this morning. The FAR gave a steady, devastating, blow-by-blow account that, among other things, exposed the Carr Report and revealed what is generally known as "lack of institutional control" (and cited the NCAA rules violated by the unilateral decision - the handbook is very clear about the role of the FAR, and it's not to be informed at 9am by a flunky who will "pass on your concerns" before a 2pm announcement).
UAB Faculty Meeting - EpicNiner - 12-09-2014 01:06 PM
Senate chair also confirmed that voting on the resolution today would be breaking rules. Resolution must be proposed prior to the voting meeting.
RE: UAB Faculty Meeting - BlazrDawg - 12-09-2014 01:10 PM
(12-09-2014 10:40 AM)Shrack Wrote: - (most important) UAB Faculty Athletic Rep was misled on intention of Carr Report. Said he fully supported football and was shut out of decision making process. He says the FAR is supposed to be included in athletics strategy. He told Watts on many occasions that football was moving in the right direction under head coach Bill Clark. When he asked the AD about the Carr report earlier this year, AD Mackin said "he had done all he could do" and would not elaborate. Athletic Rep didn't learn about decision until everyone else did when they were announced. UAB FAR basically infers the Carr report was meant to kill football.
- Faculty report that President Watts told them the decision to end football was never going to be put up to a vote. He is now trying to make amends by having "shared governance" for athletics.
- Past Pres. of national alumni association doesn't support the decision.
- NAS Board Member: The President did not answer our questions.
- UAB students and alumni spoke out, none in favor of the decision to cut football. Many get standing ovations.
- Faculty comments:
Microbio prof: football team needs to be reinstated. Decision was wrong. Says the Carr report was about eliminating football and makes no sense. Says there was no shared governance before because Watts had no desire to have any.
Foreign Language prof: Talks about secret decisions and irresponsible decision making.
Public health prof: Says the undergraduates have spirit and we need to listen to them.
Another prof: The process was failed shared governance.
Another prof: It was evident in meeting yesterday that the President's idea of shared governance does not align. Trust is lost.
Another prof: This is not a for-profit institution and we should have a voice. No one had a voice. Needs to never happen again.
Executive session happening now. I'll update once something happens.
One thing that I thing you got wrong is that Frank actually indicated that Brian Mackin made that "Ive done all I can do" statement at the Southern Miss game a couple of weeks ago,, not way back 'earlier this year' as your comment might suggest. It was at that point that Frank realized that UAB Football was getting ready to be screwed and a few days later, he was so informed ( not by Watts but by this new VP for Finance or whatever his title is ) a few hours before the Watts vs Football team debacle.
RE: UAB Faculty Meeting - Shrack - 12-09-2014 01:18 PM
(12-09-2014 01:10 PM)BlazrDawg Wrote:(12-09-2014 10:40 AM)Shrack Wrote: - (most important) UAB Faculty Athletic Rep was misled on intention of Carr Report. Said he fully supported football and was shut out of decision making process. He says the FAR is supposed to be included in athletics strategy. He told Watts on many occasions that football was moving in the right direction under head coach Bill Clark. When he asked the AD about the Carr report earlier this year, AD Mackin said "he had done all he could do" and would not elaborate. Athletic Rep didn't learn about decision until everyone else did when they were announced. UAB FAR basically infers the Carr report was meant to kill football.
- Faculty report that President Watts told them the decision to end football was never going to be put up to a vote. He is now trying to make amends by having "shared governance" for athletics.
- Past Pres. of national alumni association doesn't support the decision.
- NAS Board Member: The President did not answer our questions.
- UAB students and alumni spoke out, none in favor of the decision to cut football. Many get standing ovations.
- Faculty comments:
Microbio prof: football team needs to be reinstated. Decision was wrong. Says the Carr report was about eliminating football and makes no sense. Says there was no shared governance before because Watts had no desire to have any.
Foreign Language prof: Talks about secret decisions and irresponsible decision making.
Public health prof: Says the undergraduates have spirit and we need to listen to them.
Another prof: The process was failed shared governance.
Another prof: It was evident in meeting yesterday that the President's idea of shared governance does not align. Trust is lost.
Another prof: This is not a for-profit institution and we should have a voice. No one had a voice. Needs to never happen again.
Executive session happening now. I'll update once something happens.
One thing that I thing you got wrong is that Frank actually indicated that Brian Mackin made that "Ive done all I can do" statement at the Southern Miss game a couple of weeks ago,, not way back 'earlier this year' as your comment might suggest. It was at that point that Frank realized that UAB Football was getting ready to be screwed and a few days later, he was so informed ( not by Watts but by this new VP for Finance or whatever his title is ) a few hours before the Watts vs Football team debacle.
Thanks. Fixed it.
RE: UAB Faculty Meeting - ODU Oldtimer - 12-09-2014 01:23 PM
(12-09-2014 01:10 PM)BlazrDawg Wrote:(12-09-2014 10:40 AM)Shrack Wrote: - (most important) UAB Faculty Athletic Rep was misled on intention of Carr Report. Said he fully supported football and was shut out of decision making process. He says the FAR is supposed to be included in athletics strategy. He told Watts on many occasions that football was moving in the right direction under head coach Bill Clark. When he asked the AD about the Carr report earlier this year, AD Mackin said "he had done all he could do" and would not elaborate. Athletic Rep didn't learn about decision until everyone else did when they were announced. UAB FAR basically infers the Carr report was meant to kill football.
- Faculty report that President Watts told them the decision to end football was never going to be put up to a vote. He is now trying to make amends by having "shared governance" for athletics.
- Past Pres. of national alumni association doesn't support the decision.
- NAS Board Member: The President did not answer our questions.
- UAB students and alumni spoke out, none in favor of the decision to cut football. Many get standing ovations.
- Faculty comments:
Microbio prof: football team needs to be reinstated. Decision was wrong. Says the Carr report was about eliminating football and makes no sense. Says there was no shared governance before because Watts had no desire to have any.
Foreign Language prof: Talks about secret decisions and irresponsible decision making.
Public health prof: Says the undergraduates have spirit and we need to listen to them.
Another prof: The process was failed shared governance.
Another prof: It was evident in meeting yesterday that the President's idea of shared governance does not align. Trust is lost.
Another prof: This is not a for-profit institution and we should have a voice. No one had a voice. Needs to never happen again.
Executive session happening now. I'll update once something happens.
One thing that I thing you got wrong is that Frank actually indicated that Brian Mackin made that "Ive done all I can do" statement at the Southern Miss game a couple of weeks ago,, not way back 'earlier this year' as your comment might suggest. It was at that point that Frank realized that UAB Football was getting ready to be screwed and a few days later, he was so informed ( not by Watts but by this new VP for Finance or whatever his title is ) a few hours before the Watts vs Football team debacle.
WTG UAB Faculty never say die. FREE UAB
RE: UAB Faculty Meeting - ATTALLABLAZE - 12-09-2014 01:30 PM
Dang we just might win this thing. Hold on, don't replace us yet.
RE: UAB Faculty Meeting - Matrix - 12-09-2014 01:32 PM
(12-09-2014 10:40 AM)Shrack Wrote: - (most important) UAB Faculty Athletic Rep was misled on intention of Carr Report. Said he fully supported football and was shut out of decision making process. He says the FAR is supposed to be included in athletics strategy. He told Watts on many occasions that football was moving in the right direction under head coach Bill Clark. When he asked the AD about the Carr report at the USM game, AD Mackin said "he had done all he could do" and would not elaborate. Athletic Rep didn't learn about decision until everyone else did when they were announced. UAB FAR basically infers the Carr report was meant to kill football.
- Faculty report that President Watts told them the decision to end football was never going to be put up to a vote. He is now trying to make amends by having "shared governance" for athletics.
- Past Pres. of national alumni association doesn't support the decision.
- NAS Board Member: The President did not answer our questions.
- UAB students and alumni spoke out, none in favor of the decision to cut football. Many get standing ovations.
- Faculty comments:
Microbio prof: football team needs to be reinstated. Decision was wrong. Says the Carr report was about eliminating football and makes no sense. Says there was no shared governance before because Watts had no desire to have any.
Foreign Language prof: Talks about secret decisions and irresponsible decision making.
Public health prof: Says the undergraduates have spirit and we need to listen to them.
Another prof: The process was failed shared governance.
Another prof: It was evident in meeting yesterday that the President's idea of shared governance does not align. Trust is lost.
Another prof: This is not a for-profit institution and we should have a voice. No one had a voice. Needs to never happen again.
Executive session happening now. I'll update once something happens.
....where there is smoke....