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November basketball- Big East is #1. - stever20 - 12-01-2014 10:47 AM
With November basketball over interesting to look at the top 10 conferences- P5, Big East, A10, MWC, MVC, and WCC.
1 Big East 16-7 .696
2 Big 12 18-8 .692
3 ACC 20-12 .625
4 Big Ten 20-12 .625
5 Pac 12 13-15 .464
6 A10 12-17 .414
7 SEC 12-18 .400
8 MWC 11-18 .379
9 WCC 7-14 .333
10 MVC 5-13 .278
That's right- the Big East is #1 right now.
RE: November basketball- Big East is #1. - CoogNellie - 12-01-2014 11:42 AM
They got a lot of good marquee OOC wins.
RE: November basketball- Big East is #1. - TexanMark - 12-01-2014 11:53 AM
Bless your heart. :-p
Stever what are these numbers? Games against the other Top 10 or what?
RE: November basketball- Big East is #1. - stever20 - 12-01-2014 12:02 PM
(12-01-2014 11:53 AM)TexanMark Wrote: Bless your heart. :-p
Stever what are these numbers? Games against the other Top 10 or what?
games against the other top conferences.
RE: November basketball- Big East is #1. - Captain Bearcat - 12-01-2014 12:06 PM
The American is 3-13 against those 10 conferences as of today. Ouch.
RE: November basketball- Big East is #1. - bearcatlawjd2 - 12-01-2014 12:15 PM
Congrats to the Big East for winning the November championship. I used to make jokes about teams that were November and December champions. Real championships are won in March and April.
That being said, the American has been pretty bad this season.
RE: November basketball- Big East is #1. - stever20 - 12-01-2014 12:20 PM
(12-01-2014 12:15 PM)bearcatlawjd2 Wrote: Congrats to the Big East for winning the November championship. I used to make jokes about teams that were November and December champions. Real championships are won in March and April.
That being said, the American has been pretty bad this season.
while I agree with you to large degree- if you are bad in November/December- you won't have a chance in March and April.
RE: November basketball- Big East is #1. - robertfoshizzle - 12-01-2014 12:21 PM
I'm sure all the Xavier fans will be beating their chests. All they did last year was talk smack about the AAC's RPI. They were oddly silent when all 4 Big East teams went down the first weekend of the tournament, while UConn and Louisville made their runs.
I do think the Big East is a better conference this year than the AAC. Just saying that I'm not looking forward to hearing about it.
RE: November basketball- Big East is #1. - jdgaucho - 12-01-2014 12:36 PM
(12-01-2014 12:21 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote: I'm sure all the Xavier fans will be beating their chests. All they did last year was talk smack about the AAC's RPI. They were oddly silent when all 4 Big East teams went down the first weekend of the tournament, while UConn and Louisville made their runs.
I do think the Big East is a better conference this year than the AAC. Just saying that I'm not looking forward to hearing about it.
If it helps, they just lost to Long Beach State after beating them by 23 earlier this season.
RE: November basketball- Big East is #1. - jaminandjachin - 12-01-2014 12:57 PM
The bottom of the ACC is going to keep the conference from being #1. The top half is going to be really good. ACC/Big Ten challenge is a nice barometer.
RE: November basketball- Big East is #1. - HuskyU - 12-01-2014 01:17 PM
I like being number one in the months of March/April.
RE: November basketball- Big East is #1. - indycat - 12-01-2014 01:30 PM
A November snapshot of college basketball results is about as valid a predictor as cactus league standings in baseball. Historically, some of November's shooting stars burnout and miss the tourney in March. Young, talented teams use these games to develop, take their lumps and peak for the postseason. So yes, teams that perform poorly in November often excel in March.
Fans of the new Big East are so desperately seeking validation for their conference they're clinging to any data to support that point of view. After garnering mostly zero ratings all year on FoxSports1 and failing to put a team in the Sweet Sixteen, they saw the AAC's UCONN win yet another national title. Let's revisit the results at season's end.
RE: November basketball- Big East is #1. - stever20 - 12-01-2014 01:42 PM
Let's see how true your statement is...
last years final 4-
UConn 7-0
Kentucky 7-1
Florida 6-1
Wisconsin 8-0
surely elite 8 is different
Mich St 7-0
Arizona 7-0
Michigan 5-2
Dayton 6-1
so the elite 8 had a total of 5 losses and all were ranked in the top 25 last year. With of the 8 teams 5 of them in the top 12 at this point last year.
RE: November basketball- Big East is #1. - stxrunner - 12-01-2014 03:42 PM
(12-01-2014 12:21 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote: I'm sure all the Xavier fans will be beating their chests. All they did last year was talk smack about the AAC's RPI. They were oddly silent when all 4 Big East teams went down the first weekend of the tournament, while UConn and Louisville made their runs.
I do think the Big East is a better conference this year than the AAC. Just saying that I'm not looking forward to hearing about it.
X fans can beat whatever part of their body they want (
). X just came off a week of losing to UTEP and Long Beach St, so there really won't be much to brag about.
RE: November basketball- Big East is #1. - indycat - 12-01-2014 04:00 PM
So P5 schools load up on cupcakes in November and win all those while some go off to meaningless tourneys and lose a game or two? The new BE has many of their teams with similar records right now due to the same scheduling model, but only two teams ranked and none higher than Villanova (AP #10). Villanova hasn't been much in the postseason lately.
So based on November results, I don't expect a 5-0 Seton Hall to do more in March than a 4-3 SMU sporting a national championship coach and McDonald's All-American. And I don't think a two loss UCONN team has as much to worry about long-term as a 3-1 DePaul squad. Time will tell.
One thing is certain: the real powers in the Big East were the football playing members and they're gone forever. It was sad to see the demise of the greatest basketball conference ever.
RE: November basketball- Big East is #1. - stever20 - 12-01-2014 04:03 PM
(12-01-2014 04:00 PM)indycat Wrote: So P5 schools load up on cupcakes in November and win all those while some go off to meaningless tourneys and lose a game or two? The new BE has many of their teams with similar records right now due to the same scheduling model, but only two teams ranked and none higher than Villanova (AP #10). Villanova hasn't been much in the postseason lately.
So based on November results, I don't expect a 5-0 Seton Hall to do more in March than a 4-3 SMU sporting a national championship coach and McDonald's All-American. And I don't think a two loss UCONN team has as much to worry about long-term as a 3-1 DePaul squad. Time will tell.
One thing is certain: the real powers in the Big East were the football playing members and they're gone forever. It was sad to see the demise of the greatest basketball conference ever.
meaningless tournaments? That's where most of the top OOC matchups are quite frankly.
Oh, and who is SMU's McDonalds All-American btw?
RE: November basketball- Big East is #1. - indycat - 12-01-2014 05:38 PM
(12-01-2014 04:03 PM)stever20 Wrote:(12-01-2014 04:00 PM)indycat Wrote: So P5 schools load up on cupcakes in November and win all those while some go off to meaningless tourneys and lose a game or two? The new BE has many of their teams with similar records right now due to the same scheduling model, but only two teams ranked and none higher than Villanova (AP #10). Villanova hasn't been much in the postseason lately.
So based on November results, I don't expect a 5-0 Seton Hall to do more in March than a 4-3 SMU sporting a national championship coach and McDonald's All-American. And I don't think a two loss UCONN team has as much to worry about long-term as a 3-1 DePaul squad. Time will tell.
One thing is certain: the real powers in the Big East were the football playing members and they're gone forever. It was sad to see the demise of the greatest basketball conference ever.
meaningless tournaments? That's where most of the top OOC matchups are quite frankly.
Oh, and who is SMU's McDonalds All-American btw?
Guard Keith Frazier
RE: November basketball- Big East is #1. - Savacool - 12-01-2014 05:49 PM
What a joke the Catholic conference is number one. Move out the number one college in the nation in both men's and ladies basketball U Conn member of the AAC.
RE: November basketball- Big East is #1. - dbackjon - 12-01-2014 06:19 PM
(12-01-2014 05:49 PM)Savacool Wrote: What a joke the Catholic conference is number one. Move out the number one college in the nation in both men's and ladies basketball U Conn member of the AAC.
Well, if UConn could play for the other 10 schools in the AAC you'd be correct...
RE: November basketball- Big East is #1. - johnbragg - 12-01-2014 06:27 PM
People are certainly butthurt over a conference that put only 4 teams in the dance last year and nobody in the Sweet Sixteen.
Imagine if we had a good year.