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OT: Did you vote today? - Wolfman - 11-04-2014 02:49 PM
Doesn't matter who you voted for or if you voted for someone in every race or not.
Edit: Voting in this pole does not count!
RE: OT: Did you vote today? - Dr. Isaly von Yinzer - 11-04-2014 03:21 PM
I always vote. I consider it my patriotic obligation. I also do not believe in voting straight ticket. I have never in my life voted for one party across the board and I think it hurts the country when people to vote strictly along party lines.
To my parents, that moderate approach makes me a liberal but that is because they are ideologically unreasonable when it comes to politics.
RE: OT: Did you vote today? - loki_the_bubba - 11-04-2014 03:27 PM
I did not vote today. I voted last week in early voting.
RE: OT: Did you vote today? - bitcruncher - 11-04-2014 03:29 PM
Wolf, I kind of feel like I voted for a pole too. But it was that piece of deadwood, or a vote for another.
RE: OT: Did you vote today? - lew240z - 11-04-2014 03:39 PM
I voted but no Poles were running in any of the races in my area.
RE: OT: Did you vote today? - Kittonhead - 11-04-2014 03:46 PM
Voted and voted NO on a property tax break for widows of veterans.
RE: OT: Did you vote today? - prp - 11-04-2014 04:02 PM
(11-04-2014 03:46 PM)Kittonhead Wrote: Voted and voted NO on a property tax break for widows of veterans.
Did you vote in VA? I voted no on the same question.
RE: OT: Did you vote today? - Zombiewoof - 11-04-2014 04:10 PM
(11-04-2014 04:02 PM)prp Wrote:(11-04-2014 03:46 PM)Kittonhead Wrote: Voted and voted NO on a property tax break for widows of veterans.
Did you vote in VA? I voted no on the same question.
Commies.
Of course I don't know how the issue law was written and that could have a lot to do with how you voted. And there would be a difference between tax breaks for widows of all veterans and widows of servicemen and women who died while on active duty.
I voted FOR a state amendment providing for a constitutional right to hunt, fish and harvest wildlife. I don't hunt, fish or harvest wildlife, but I wanted to protect the rights of people to shoot stuff and grab a pole.
RE: OT: Did you vote today? - dbackjon - 11-04-2014 04:17 PM
I voted.
Mostly Dem (duh), with a couple Libertarian votes.
Voted Yes on School bond issues
In our local race, opponents of one of the incumbent city council members tried smearing her with signs that said "Want more Bars and Drunks? Vote Milhaven" OK - done!
RE: OT: Did you vote today? - uconnwhaler - 11-04-2014 04:20 PM
Yup. I voted majority Dem, some Green and for a Republican that ran against a Dem that refused to debate. I too don't like to vote straight line...Some people don't deserve a vote.
RE: OT: Did you vote today? - Kittonhead - 11-04-2014 04:26 PM
(11-04-2014 04:02 PM)prp Wrote:(11-04-2014 03:46 PM)Kittonhead Wrote: Voted and voted NO on a property tax break for widows of veterans.
Did you vote in VA? I voted no on the same question.
The great state of Veteran Affairs.
The problem is you could be a widow who has a house paying 8,000 a year in property takes and have a live in boyfriend making 200,000 and not getting remarried to avoid picking up the property taxes. People use every loophole they can get when it comes to their pocketbooks.
OTOH, If its a young widow who lost a 23 year old husband they were living in Military housing at the time. For example she decides to get a job and a 150,000 dollar property with 1,500 property taxes a year. Those property taxes are already deductible so her real cost is only 1,000 a month. That is a cost however she chose to assume when she could have just rented.
The property tax breaks make more sense for the seniors on fixed incomes. There is already personal property tax relief for those 65 and older in place. Usually what happens when seniors have a 700,000 or 800,000 dollar property paying 12,000 a year in property taxes but its paid off they decide to sell it and buy a condo down in Florida for 250k. When the property taxes are too high you unload the property.
RE: OT: Did you vote today? - Niner National - 11-04-2014 04:27 PM
I was going to vote after work. I forgot I have a meeting after work, so it looks like I won't be voting.
RE: OT: Did you vote today? - Captain Bearcat - 11-04-2014 04:32 PM
In local elections I always vote for whatever party is not in power. In my limited experience (I'm only 32) I've found that having one party in control of an entire city/county just leads to corruption. Doesn't matter which party runs everything, you get the same result just with different rhetoric. They need at least a few people from the other party around to keep an eye on them.
Don't know if I'll be able to leave the office today in time to vote. Hope I can, but there's no real big issues on the ballot today here.
RE: OT: Did you vote today? - Kittonhead - 11-04-2014 04:40 PM
(11-04-2014 04:10 PM)Zombiewoof Wrote:(11-04-2014 04:02 PM)prp Wrote:(11-04-2014 03:46 PM)Kittonhead Wrote: Voted and voted NO on a property tax break for widows of veterans.
Did you vote in VA? I voted no on the same question.
Commies.
Of course I don't know how the issue law was written and that could have a lot to do with how you voted. And there would be a difference between tax breaks for widows of all veterans and widows of servicemen and women who died while on active duty.
It was limited to widows of veterans who died in the line of duty. Its a narrow scope and a thoughtful gesture. The problem is you can abuse it and some would definitely try abuse it.
A commie doesn't believe in the concept of personal property but believes in income equality so a tax break for widows would probably fit their line of thinking. Fits the feminist working mother agenda. The kind of woman you might be talking about would get a D-Bag replacement boyfriend in to pay the bills who doesn't want to get married anyway.
You may as well just go ahead and eliminate joint income tax filings for married couples and chop out the child tax credit if you move to a system where single parents are rewarded over married parents.
RE: OT: Did you vote today? - arkstfan - 11-04-2014 04:56 PM
I voted Friday and voted for the local library tax because I don't like the person leading the campaign against it. Normally I'd not vote to tax myself to build a library building since I only use it online but if he can lose I'll be happy.
As to your concern Kitton, in Arkansas we have a Pearl Harbor survivors license plate. A few years ago we got down just a few people who qualified and even fewer who could still drive so the legislature extended to cover their wives and widows.
Still one child left collecting a Civil War pension.
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303603904579493830954152394
RE: OT: Did you vote today? - Kittonhead - 11-04-2014 05:09 PM
(11-04-2014 04:32 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote: In local elections I always vote for whatever party is not in power. In my limited experience (I'm only 32) I've found that having one party in control of an entire city/county just leads to corruption. Doesn't matter which party runs everything, you get the same result just with different rhetoric. They need at least a few people from the other party around to keep an eye on them.
#1 Politics is a profession. Its about egos and assuming higher profile roles and power. It doesn't matter where they are coming from on the political spectrum. Making a vote based on character is a joke because they all have selfish, self centered character. Its not they have bad intent but they don't play nice.
#2 Special Interests push for bills and frame the agenda for the parties. The parties are on the receiving end of the agenda. It is the job of the party to make people happy and vote for them again.
#3 Donors at the local level are specifically focused on kickbacks, promises to be considered as vendors when projects go out for bids. Both major parties are very business friendly and know they've got to rake in the donors.
So yes I can see where throwing the bums out every local election would lower the corruption factor somewhat due to rotating that donor base. One corrupt deal is still a corrupt deal though which is as far as they can usually promise without more $$$ and who wants to give $$$ until the reelection cycle? Corruption is a fine line to walk. To far and its disastrous for a politicians career.
RE: OT: Did you vote today? - Zombiewoof - 11-04-2014 05:18 PM
(11-04-2014 04:40 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:(11-04-2014 04:10 PM)Zombiewoof Wrote:(11-04-2014 04:02 PM)prp Wrote:(11-04-2014 03:46 PM)Kittonhead Wrote: Voted and voted NO on a property tax break for widows of veterans.
Did you vote in VA? I voted no on the same question.
Commies.
Of course I don't know how the issue law was written and that could have a lot to do with how you voted. And there would be a difference between tax breaks for widows of all veterans and widows of servicemen and women who died while on active duty.
It was limited to widows of veterans who died in the line of duty. Its a narrow scope and a thoughtful gesture. The problem is you can abuse it and some would definitely try abuse it.
A commie doesn't believe in the concept of personal property but believes in income equality so a tax break for widows would probably fit their line of thinking. Fits the feminist working mother agenda. The kind of woman you might be talking about would get a D-Bag replacement boyfriend in to pay the bills who doesn't want to get married anyway.
You may as well just go ahead and eliminate joint income tax filings for married couples and chop out the child tax credit if you move to a system where single parents are rewarded over married parents.
Sorry Kitton, but I didn't use an appropriate joking smilie after saying "Commies." No offense intended to you or prp.
And for the record, no commies were harmed in the posting of this message.
RE: OT: Did you vote today? - prp - 11-04-2014 05:27 PM
(11-04-2014 04:10 PM)Zombiewoof Wrote:(11-04-2014 04:02 PM)prp Wrote:(11-04-2014 03:46 PM)Kittonhead Wrote: Voted and voted NO on a property tax break for widows of veterans.
Did you vote in VA? I voted no on the same question.
Commies.
Of course I don't know how the issue law was written and that could have a lot to do with how you voted. And there would be a difference between tax breaks for widows of all veterans and widows of servicemen and women who died while on active duty.
I voted FOR a state amendment providing for a constitutional right to hunt, fish and harvest wildlife. I don't hunt, fish or harvest wildlife, but I wanted to protect the rights of people to shoot stuff and grab a pole.
I have absolutely no problem with the concept. It's the fact that it was on the ballot as a constitutional amendment that I disagreed with. If it was proposed as a law instead of an amendment, I would support it. Amendments are permanent and inflexible and should only be used for the most important of issues. Despite the good intentions, I don't think a minor change to tax law qualifies as amendment worthy.
RE: OT: Did you vote today? - EerMeNow - 11-04-2014 05:31 PM
(11-04-2014 05:27 PM)prp Wrote: I have absolutely no problem with the concept. It's the fact that it was on the ballot as a constitutional amendment that I disagreed with. If it was proposed as a law instead of an amendment, I would support it. Amendments are permanent and inflexible and should only be used for the most important of issues. Despite the good intentions, I don't think a minor change to tax law qualifies as amendment worthy.
The 21st Amendment just got really pissed off.
RE: OT: Did you vote today? - USFRamenu - 11-04-2014 05:36 PM
I served and fought for the right of choice. When and if there is anyone worth voting for on the ballot, I'll vote. Since they do not allow me to vote "None of the above", it's a waste of my time.
Taxation without Representation is what gave birth to this country. When was the last poor person admitted to congress or even a lower middle class person. I'll answer for you. The only member of Congress ever to be classified as poor was Abraham Lincoln. Congress is a representation of our wealthy population, not a representation of the entire population.
I refuse to vote for rich people only to help them become richer off of my tax dollars. When the rest of the citizens of this country wake up and realize that both parties are the same, let me know. I'll help rebuild the electorate after that.
