(06-19-2015 04:23 PM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  

(06-19-2015 02:56 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(06-19-2015 02:39 PM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  

(06-19-2015 02:22 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(06-19-2015 02:18 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  With Spurs signing Trippier out of Burnley today to be 2nd choice to Kyle Walker, Yedlin wasn't getting any playing time there either.

Yep and Townsend and Lamela look to have the wing stuffed up there for the next half decade, that's the unfortunate side of life. Kid's got to find a way out...would've been smart to end up at a Dutch or German club instead honestly.

Or Everton!


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And be stuck behind Coleman and Mirallas for years? No better...he needed to go to a second tier team (Feyenoord, PSV, Hertha, Hoffenheim, etc) and develop while getting first team reps. He won't do that in the EPL.

Mirallas was in the doghouse and may be sold this summer.


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(06-19-2015 01:09 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(06-19-2015 12:54 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Rumors out of England saying that Spurs are looking to send DeAndre Yedlin out on loan to Norwich City.

Their current RB, Whittaker, is the captain of their squad, so I'm guessing he'd be at the wing if he'd even get time on the pitch at all, which considering that Redmond has their right wing locked down, I'm assuming would be a weak possibility.

(06-19-2015 05:17 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(06-19-2015 01:09 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(06-19-2015 12:54 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Rumors out of England saying that Spurs are looking to send DeAndre Yedlin out on loan to Norwich City.

Their current RB, Whittaker, is the captain of their squad, so I'm guessing he'd be at the wing if he'd even get time on the pitch at all, which considering that Redmond has their right wing locked down, I'm assuming would be a weak possibility.

Whittaker is getting old

(06-19-2015 05:41 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(06-19-2015 05:17 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(06-19-2015 01:09 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(06-19-2015 12:54 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Rumors out of England saying that Spurs are looking to send DeAndre Yedlin out on loan to Norwich City.

Their current RB, Whittaker, is the captain of their squad, so I'm guessing he'd be at the wing if he'd even get time on the pitch at all, which considering that Redmond has their right wing locked down, I'm assuming would be a weak possibility.

Whittaker is getting old

Yep...if Norwich were buying Yedlin, I'd think it would make sense. Have a year or two to mentor behind a quality right back, then insert him into the starting lineup at 22 or 23, but loaning him to me just seems like injury insurance.

(06-19-2015 02:26 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(06-19-2015 10:28 AM)SW UC Wrote:  

(06-18-2015 11:41 AM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(06-18-2015 09:46 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(06-18-2015 09:08 AM)JustAnotherAustinOwl Wrote:  Both came at the end of what were, by all accounts I've read, horribly officiated games. Doesn't excuse it at all, of course. Dempsey's is much crazier from the video I've seen. If he gets banned for the GC, I can't really argue with it that much. I don't follow MLS too closely, but it seems like he had some other anger management incidents since going to Seattle.

I've been watching Copa America and have learned that South American soccer is physical as hell. Neymar acted inappropriately by all accounts; however, that's the team that damn near broke his back in the last WC. I think teams know he's a hothead and try and get under his skin. He acted pretty mature all season in La Liga but not so much in the Copa so far. Have to remind myself he's only 23 and being selected the captain of Brazil has to bring a ton of pressure. Anyway, I did find it amusing that the Chilian start Vidal got booked for a DUI but will keep playing anyway.

Well, La Liga's games are called a lot tighter than the Premier League, Bundesliga, and others. It's just not as physical there, and is much more of a finesse game. I really don't think he'd have survived a full season in England or Germany without getting hurt, or losing his temper at least a few times. He has the physique of an adolescent 7th grader and would get knocked around like a puppet there.

If small guys like Silva and Mata can flourish in the EPL than so can Neymar who is so much better than those 2. I'm a Real Madrid fan and I watch La Liga and it is a technical league however it can get quite physical. La Liga has quite a few South Americans defenders who are physical. There is no team as physical in Europe as Atletico Madrid, who are sometimes downright dirty. Pepe and Ramos love physical contact, a little too much in my opinion as they pick up unnecessary cards.

Neymar is much thinner than Silva and Mata. A couple years ago, Neymar almost looked anorexic. Yes, Atletico Madrid is an exception; there's always an exception. Doesn't prove anything though, and I also won't go so far as saying they're the most physical in all of Europe. But you're kidding yourself if you think that La Liga as a whole is as physical as the English and German leagues are. They never have been. Heck, you brought up Real Madrid. Real Madrid's own Gareth Bale even said the Premier League is more physical and quicker.

(06-19-2015 02:26 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(06-19-2015 10:28 AM)SW UC Wrote:  

(06-18-2015 11:41 AM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(06-18-2015 09:46 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(06-18-2015 09:08 AM)JustAnotherAustinOwl Wrote:  Both came at the end of what were, by all accounts I've read, horribly officiated games. Doesn't excuse it at all, of course. Dempsey's is much crazier from the video I've seen. If he gets banned for the GC, I can't really argue with it that much. I don't follow MLS too closely, but it seems like he had some other anger management incidents since going to Seattle.

I've been watching Copa America and have learned that South American soccer is physical as hell. Neymar acted inappropriately by all accounts; however, that's the team that damn near broke his back in the last WC. I think teams know he's a hothead and try and get under his skin. He acted pretty mature all season in La Liga but not so much in the Copa so far. Have to remind myself he's only 23 and being selected the captain of Brazil has to bring a ton of pressure. Anyway, I did find it amusing that the Chilian start Vidal got booked for a DUI but will keep playing anyway.

Well, La Liga's games are called a lot tighter than the Premier League, Bundesliga, and others. It's just not as physical there, and is much more of a finesse game. I really don't think he'd have survived a full season in England or Germany without getting hurt, or losing his temper at least a few times. He has the physique of an adolescent 7th grader and would get knocked around like a puppet there.

If small guys like Silva and Mata can flourish in the EPL than so can Neymar who is so much better than those 2. I'm a Real Madrid fan and I watch La Liga and it is a technical league however it can get quite physical. La Liga has quite a few South Americans defenders who are physical. There is no team as physical in Europe as Atletico Madrid, who are sometimes downright dirty. Pepe and Ramos love physical contact, a little too much in my opinion as they pick up unnecessary cards.

Neymar is much thinner than Silva and Mata. A couple years ago, Neymar almost looked anorexic. Yes, Atletico Madrid is an exception; there's always an exception. Doesn't prove anything though, and I also won't go so far as saying they're the most physical in all of Europe. But you're kidding yourself if you think that La Liga as a whole is as physical as the English and German leagues are. They never have been. Heck, you brought up Real Madrid. Real Madrid's own Gareth Bale even said the Premier League is more physical and quicker.

(06-19-2015 06:57 PM)SW UC Wrote:  

(06-19-2015 02:26 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(06-19-2015 10:28 AM)SW UC Wrote:  

(06-18-2015 11:41 AM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(06-18-2015 09:46 AM)VA49er Wrote:  I've been watching Copa America and have learned that South American soccer is physical as hell. Neymar acted inappropriately by all accounts; however, that's the team that damn near broke his back in the last WC. I think teams know he's a hothead and try and get under his skin. He acted pretty mature all season in La Liga but not so much in the Copa so far. Have to remind myself he's only 23 and being selected the captain of Brazil has to bring a ton of pressure. Anyway, I did find it amusing that the Chilian start Vidal got booked for a DUI but will keep playing anyway.

Well, La Liga's games are called a lot tighter than the Premier League, Bundesliga, and others. It's just not as physical there, and is much more of a finesse game. I really don't think he'd have survived a full season in England or Germany without getting hurt, or losing his temper at least a few times. He has the physique of an adolescent 7th grader and would get knocked around like a puppet there.

If small guys like Silva and Mata can flourish in the EPL than so can Neymar who is so much better than those 2. I'm a Real Madrid fan and I watch La Liga and it is a technical league however it can get quite physical. La Liga has quite a few South Americans defenders who are physical. There is no team as physical in Europe as Atletico Madrid, who are sometimes downright dirty. Pepe and Ramos love physical contact, a little too much in my opinion as they pick up unnecessary cards.

Neymar is much thinner than Silva and Mata. A couple years ago, Neymar almost looked anorexic. Yes, Atletico Madrid is an exception; there's always an exception. Doesn't prove anything though, and I also won't go so far as saying they're the most physical in all of Europe. But you're kidding yourself if you think that La Liga as a whole is as physical as the English and German leagues are. They never have been. Heck, you brought up Real Madrid. Real Madrid's own Gareth Bale even said the Premier League is more physical and quicker.

I never said that La Liga is more physical than EPL and Bundesliga. All I said its not all finesse. I will say that La Liga is the best league in the world and that the EPL is over hyped and overrated.

(06-19-2015 09:34 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(06-19-2015 06:57 PM)SW UC Wrote:  

(06-19-2015 02:26 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(06-19-2015 10:28 AM)SW UC Wrote:  

(06-18-2015 11:41 AM)Volkmar Wrote:  Well, La Liga's games are called a lot tighter than the Premier League, Bundesliga, and others. It's just not as physical there, and is much more of a finesse game. I really don't think he'd have survived a full season in England or Germany without getting hurt, or losing his temper at least a few times. He has the physique of an adolescent 7th grader and would get knocked around like a puppet there.

If small guys like Silva and Mata can flourish in the EPL than so can Neymar who is so much better than those 2. I'm a Real Madrid fan and I watch La Liga and it is a technical league however it can get quite physical. La Liga has quite a few South Americans defenders who are physical. There is no team as physical in Europe as Atletico Madrid, who are sometimes downright dirty. Pepe and Ramos love physical contact, a little too much in my opinion as they pick up unnecessary cards.

Neymar is much thinner than Silva and Mata. A couple years ago, Neymar almost looked anorexic. Yes, Atletico Madrid is an exception; there's always an exception. Doesn't prove anything though, and I also won't go so far as saying they're the most physical in all of Europe. But you're kidding yourself if you think that La Liga as a whole is as physical as the English and German leagues are. They never have been. Heck, you brought up Real Madrid. Real Madrid's own Gareth Bale even said the Premier League is more physical and quicker.

I never said that La Liga is more physical than EPL and Bundesliga. All I said its not all finesse. I will say that La Liga is the best league in the world and that the EPL is over hyped and overrated.

Fair enough, but I didn't say it's all finesse either, so I'm not sure where that came from; I just said it's more of a finesse league than the others are. I agree with you on La Liga being the best in the world and that the EPL is over-hyped and overrated, especially in the last 3 years. I'm a Bundesliga fan, and though I think the Bundesliga is 3rd best in quality behind the other two, I'd even venture to say that the Bundesliga has been stronger than the EPL the last 3 or so years. The EPL has really dropped the ball lately.

Regarding the La Liga/EPL quality comparison, probably the best way to compare the quality of the leagues is to look at the results from the games in which La Liga and the EPL go head-to-head in CL and Europa League play. If my calculations are correct, in the last 3 years, La Liga's record against the EPL has been 9 wins, 1 loss, and 4 draws. That's complete dominance. Over the past 10 years, La Liga's record against the EPL has been 24 wins, 21 losses, and 22 draws. So it evens out quite a bit over the ten-year span, meaning the EPL had a slight advantage over the 7 years prior to the last three. It's probably a cycle between the two.

And while the Bundesliga is 3rd behind them both, I will say this about the Bundesliga... They're a financial model for all other leagues to follow, and every team is majority owned by the fans due to a 50+1 stipulation. The Bundesliga also has much stricter regulations regarding spending, which is why pretty much every team in the league is in the profit margin and financially stable. The stadiums are also full, and loud! So even though most German clubs have their hands tied as to how much they're allowed to spend on players, I can live with the league being 3rd best. Here's a great article about it, albeit dated (from 5 years ago)...

http://espn.go.com/sports/soccer/news/_/id/5673975/success-germany-bundesliga

(06-19-2015 11:25 PM)SW UC Wrote:  

(06-19-2015 09:34 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(06-19-2015 06:57 PM)SW UC Wrote:  

(06-19-2015 02:26 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(06-19-2015 10:28 AM)SW UC Wrote:  If small guys like Silva and Mata can flourish in the EPL than so can Neymar who is so much better than those 2. I'm a Real Madrid fan and I watch La Liga and it is a technical league however it can get quite physical. La Liga has quite a few South Americans defenders who are physical. There is no team as physical in Europe as Atletico Madrid, who are sometimes downright dirty. Pepe and Ramos love physical contact, a little too much in my opinion as they pick up unnecessary cards.

Neymar is much thinner than Silva and Mata. A couple years ago, Neymar almost looked anorexic. Yes, Atletico Madrid is an exception; there's always an exception. Doesn't prove anything though, and I also won't go so far as saying they're the most physical in all of Europe. But you're kidding yourself if you think that La Liga as a whole is as physical as the English and German leagues are. They never have been. Heck, you brought up Real Madrid. Real Madrid's own Gareth Bale even said the Premier League is more physical and quicker.

I never said that La Liga is more physical than EPL and Bundesliga. All I said its not all finesse. I will say that La Liga is the best league in the world and that the EPL is over hyped and overrated.

Fair enough, but I didn't say it's all finesse either, so I'm not sure where that came from; I just said it's more of a finesse league than the others are. I agree with you on La Liga being the best in the world and that the EPL is over-hyped and overrated, especially in the last 3 years. I'm a Bundesliga fan, and though I think the Bundesliga is 3rd best in quality behind the other two, I'd even venture to say that the Bundesliga has been stronger than the EPL the last 3 or so years. The EPL has really dropped the ball lately.

Regarding the La Liga/EPL quality comparison, probably the best way to compare the quality of the leagues is to look at the results from the games in which La Liga and the EPL go head-to-head in CL and Europa League play. If my calculations are correct, in the last 3 years, La Liga's record against the EPL has been 9 wins, 1 loss, and 4 draws. That's complete dominance. Over the past 10 years, La Liga's record against the EPL has been 24 wins, 21 losses, and 22 draws. So it evens out quite a bit over the ten-year span, meaning the EPL had a slight advantage over the 7 years prior to the last three. It's probably a cycle between the two.

And while the Bundesliga is 3rd behind them both, I will say this about the Bundesliga... They're a financial model for all other leagues to follow, and every team is majority owned by the fans due to a 50+1 stipulation. The Bundesliga also has much stricter regulations regarding spending, which is why pretty much every team in the league is in the profit margin and financially stable. The stadiums are also full, and loud! So even though most German clubs have their hands tied as to how much they're allowed to spend on players, I can live with the league being 3rd best. Here's a great article about it, albeit dated (from 5 years ago)...

http://espn.go.com/sports/soccer/news/_/id/5673975/success-germany-bundesliga

You make some great points in regards to the Bundesliga and its the most financially stable league in the world. Germany has a strong middle class and their fans have more disposable income than English or Spanish fans. Spain has gone through a horrific economic meltdown.

Many La Liga fans like myself respect the Bundesliga in that they develop world class players like La Liga. 2 years ago the Bundesliga was the best league in the world when Bayern Munich beat Dortmund in the CL Final, knocking out Barcelona and Real Madrid in the Semis. The Bundesliga and German National Team play a much more attractive style than they use to. They have added a skillful technical quality to their already strong physical style. I believe that USA soccer should follow the German model and I love that Klinsmann is our national team coach. Lastly I'm happy that the Fox Sports will be showing Bundesliga games this season.

(06-20-2015 06:22 PM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  "The third-placed teams which advanced will be placed with the winners of groups A, B, C and D according to a table published in Section 28 of the tournament regulations." LINK

Thus these were locked in from the start:

#2 USA vs. #28 Colombia
#1 Germany vs. #5 Sweden
#4 Japan vs. #12 Netherlands
#8 Canada vs. #19 Switzerland

Which left:

#3 France
#6 England
#7 Brazil
#10 Australia
#11 Norway
#16 China
#18 Korea
#53 Cameroon

Now of course you can do the typical bracket style from there but since you have the locked in 4 matchups above why not just try to get the best available matchups in each round while keeping the US on the opposite side of Canada and Japan and hope for the final everyone wants to see (USA vs Japan) or the plan b (USA vs Canada).

(06-20-2015 10:17 PM)CalallenStang Wrote:  The problem stems from having 6 groups, so that to even have a round of 16 you have to have 4 third place teams (out of 6). That means that 4 group winners play third place teams, 2 group winners play 2nd place teams, and the remaining 4 2nd place teams play each other. You are going to have screwed up brackets by doing that.

They should do what the men have: 32 teams, 8 groups, top 2 advance, 1st and 2nd place from each group are placed in opposite brackets, and 1st place in each group plays 2nd place from another group.

(06-20-2015 10:17 PM)CalallenStang Wrote:  The problem stems from having 6 groups, so that to even have a round of 16 you have to have 4 third place teams (out of 6). That means that 4 group winners play third place teams, 2 group winners play 2nd place teams, and the remaining 4 2nd place teams play each other. You are going to have screwed up brackets by doing that.

They should do what the men have: 32 teams, 8 groups, top 2 advance, 1st and 2nd place from each group are placed in opposite brackets, and 1st place in each group plays 2nd place from another group.

(06-21-2015 02:10 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Forget Brazil making the Women's World Cup Final, they were upset by Australia today in the round of 16. They will face the winner of Japan/Netherlands in the quarterfinals.