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Is there a link to budget size for all D1 schools - john01992 - 06-28-2014 12:42 PM
???
RE: Is there a link to budget size for all D1 schools - TodgeRodge - 06-28-2014 02:02 PM
yes
RE: Is there a link to budget size for all D1 schools - ULdave - 06-28-2014 03:18 PM
(06-28-2014 12:42 PM)john01992 Wrote: ???
http://ope.ed.gov/athletics/
There are lists out there (USA today usually has one) but they are often outdated. The link above is a bit cumbersome and forces you to search for the school your looking for but it gives you the info that the schools give the gov for title 9 compliance.
RE: Is there a link to budget size for all D1 schools - john01992 - 06-28-2014 05:47 PM
thx UL dave
RE: Is there a link to budget size for all D1 schools - geauxcajuns - 06-29-2014 06:19 PM
IMO in order to be FBS your athletic budget should exceed $35 million from self generated funds. Meaning ticket sales, institutional support and fund raising. My university does not meet that criteria, but the gap is so large between the elites and the middle of the pack P5 and G5 schools that a limit must be set.
There are a bunch of P5 schools who without the TV/Conference money would hover around that $35 million mark.
RE: Is there a link to budget size for all D1 schools - Shannon Panther - 06-29-2014 07:04 PM
Since tomorrow is the last day of the fiscal year, that site will probably have FY 2012 data. Give them a few months and the FY 2013 data should be available.
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RE: Is there a link to budget size for all D1 schools - lumberpack4 - 06-29-2014 07:07 PM
(06-29-2014 06:19 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote: IMO in order to be FBS your athletic budget should exceed $35 million from self generated funds. Meaning ticket sales, institutional support and fund raising. My university does not meet that criteria, but the gap is so large between the elites and the middle of the pack P5 and G5 schools that a limit must be set.
There are a bunch of P5 schools who without the TV/Conference money would hover around that $35 million mark.
Are you then going to make all the P5's play the same sports instead of the mix they choose? Do they get to keep the money they make in the NCAA tournament?
RE: Is there a link to budget size for all D1 schools - perimeterpost - 06-29-2014 10:21 PM
(06-29-2014 06:19 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote: IMO in order to be FBS your athletic budget should exceed $35 million from self generated funds. Meaning ticket sales, institutional support and fund raising. My university does not meet that criteria, but the gap is so large between the elites and the middle of the pack P5 and G5 schools that a limit must be set.
There are a bunch of P5 schools who without the TV/Conference money would hover around that $35 million mark.
why not $34 million? or $36 million?
RE: Is there a link to budget size for all D1 schools - TodgeRodge - 06-29-2014 10:39 PM
(06-29-2014 06:19 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote: IMO in order to be FBS your athletic budget should exceed $35 million from self generated funds. Meaning ticket sales, institutional support and fund raising. My university does not meet that criteria, but the gap is so large between the elites and the middle of the pack P5 and G5 schools that a limit must be set.
There are a bunch of P5 schools who without the TV/Conference money would hover around that $35 million mark.
why in the hell would you include institutional support and exclude tv money
and any school that had an ounce of common sense would just have their TV deal signed with the academic side and then hand that over as institutional support anyway
if you want to get cost control get rid of the institutional support for a start
RE: Is there a link to budget size for all D1 schools - panama - 07-02-2014 10:47 AM
Set a dollar limit for a tax exempt not for profit enterprise...
go on...
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RE: Is there a link to budget size for all D1 schools - TodgeRodge - 07-02-2014 11:38 AM
(07-02-2014 10:47 AM)panama Wrote: Set a dollar limit for a tax exempt not for profit enterprise...
go on...
the NCAA does not make tax law
and again this represents the failure of the vast majority of Americans to understand the difference between revenues and profits.....or even how a non-profit or not for profit works
why does the amount of total revenue have anything to do with something being a non-profit or a not for profit
all the worse your plan would just result in the addition a larger number of non-profits and not for profits and the associated overhead that runs them thus wasting resources on redundancy and duplication of overhead and administrative expenses VS meeting the mission of the organization
I do happen to think that charitable tax deductions should be done away with including for religion because I feel that your "ideals" and or your beliefs do not negate your taxable consequences and even more so there are WAY too many fraudulent and less than useful charities and "advocacy" organizations that do just as stated above......eat up a ton of their resources on overhead and administration before they ever accomplish anything towards their stated purpose
and even though I have no problem with many religions I am seeing more and more of what I consider to be less than legitimate religious fronts and just little small "churches" and the like (for other religions) that are really just barely getting by and that are springing up all over the place eating into the taxable property rolls......I do not think they should be taxed per say if they can prove they are non-profit or not for profit, but I do not think it should result in a tax deduction for an individual or a corporation that donates to support them
and more along the lines of sports I don't think that donating to your favorite sports team should lessen your taxable income as well even though the donation to the organization should not trigger an income tax for them
and again as far as sports the revenues for event he top NCAA teams and programs does not come close to being the largest non-profit or not for profit level of income so if you were to try your suggestion you might as well watch pretty much every major charitable organization out there implode or split into hundreds of smaller organizations along with massive amounts of duplication of overhead
and not to mention that most major NCAA universities are public universities and it is will never be passed where their ability to take in funds without an income tax will pass....not ever and nor should it at any level of income
taking away the charitable contribution write off would probably decrease some of the donations overall though and that might not be a bad thing