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Who's your favorite General of all time? - ClairtonPanther - 06-04-2014 04:44 PM

Mine is Hannibal. Dude was straight bad ass.


RE: Who's your favorite General of all time? - john01992 - 06-04-2014 04:47 PM

gotta go with Patton here. He carried away the bodies of his dead enemies on the front hood of his car deer hunting style.

doesn't get any more badass than that.


RE: Who's your favorite General of all time? - GoApps70 - 06-04-2014 04:55 PM

Julius Caesar mainly from doing so much with many times so little.


RE: Who's your favorite General of all time? - All Dukes_All Day - 06-04-2014 04:59 PM

Lesser known Confederate General Turner Ashby is pretty boss. Always wanted to fight with his troops in the front lines. They wanted to change his brigade to fight under a different general and everybody in the convoy refused to fight for anyone else. Mad respect for him.


RE: Who's your favorite General of all time? - john01992 - 06-04-2014 05:00 PM

(06-04-2014 04:59 PM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  Lesser known Confederate General Turner Ashby is pretty boss. Always wanted to fight with his troops in the front lines. They wanted to change his brigade to fight under a different general and everybody in the convoy refused to fight for anyone else. Mad respect for him.

isn't that.....you know.......punishable by death?


RE: Who's your favorite General of all time? - NIU007 - 06-04-2014 05:02 PM

Rommel.


RE: Who's your favorite General of all time? - john01992 - 06-04-2014 05:06 PM

(06-04-2014 05:02 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  Rommel.

despite fighting for the biggest prick in world history, he did go out as a man and with honor.


RE: Who's your favorite General of all time? - All Dukes_All Day - 06-04-2014 05:09 PM

(06-04-2014 05:00 PM)john01992 Wrote:  
(06-04-2014 04:59 PM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  Lesser known Confederate General Turner Ashby is pretty boss. Always wanted to fight with his troops in the front lines. They wanted to change his brigade to fight under a different general and everybody in the convoy refused to fight for anyone else. Mad respect for him.

isn't that.....you know.......punishable by death?

Eh, do you want to kill a bunch of soldiers or do you just let them remain loyal to their general and work around it.

It could be an exaggerated claim as well. Much of history is speculated through personal diaries and unoffical sources...so who knows.


RE: Who's your favorite General of all time? - HeartOfDixie - 06-04-2014 05:24 PM

Easy, the single best General of all time, the 'Little Corporal' Napoleon Bonaparte.


RE: Who's your favorite General of all time? - nomad2u2001 - 06-04-2014 05:26 PM

Sun Tzu.


RE: Who's your favorite General of all time? - bitcruncher - 06-04-2014 05:39 PM

Genghis Khan


RE: Who's your favorite General of all time? - john01992 - 06-04-2014 05:44 PM

(06-04-2014 05:26 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  Sun Tzu.

good one


RE: Who's your favorite General of all time? - bitcruncher - 06-04-2014 05:55 PM

1 out of every 200 men in the world are descendants of Genghis Khan. That's 0.5% of the world's population. Although in lands occupied by the former Mongol Empire, Genghis Khan's descendants occupy about 8% of the population.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/02/0214_030214_genghis.html


RE: Who's your favorite General of all time? - georgia_tech_swagger - 06-04-2014 06:11 PM

(06-04-2014 05:39 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  Genghis Khan

This. The mongol Khan leaders in general. THERE IS NO COMPARISON.

You guys just don't understand. He is separated by a multiple with several zeros in it from anybody else.

Khan killed over 10,000,000 people.

Mounds of human remains were mistaken for snow capped mountains by nomads and travelers.

The mongols surrounded Baghdad and sent in an envoy to negotiate surrender terms. They killed the envoy. So the mongols wiped out Baghdad. All of it. They then CAME BACK a few days later to wipe out the people who manged to flee or hide. It only TODAY (750 years later) that the population of Baghdad is close to what it was before the mongols got there. At the time in 1258 it was the Islamic Golden Age. The Islamic world gave us algebra and many classic literary works. The mongol siege of Baghdad marks the end of the Islamic Golden Age. They wiped out even the knowledge of the people they conquered (foolishly). And then they spread their DNA around the women they conquered ... in particular the Khans. Genghis:

Quote:An international group of geneticists studying Y-chromosome data have found that nearly 8 percent of the men living in the region of the former Mongol empire carry y-chromosomes that are nearly identical. That translates to 0.5 percent of the male population in the world, or roughly 16 million descendants living today.


http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/02/0214_030214_genghis.html


RE: Who's your favorite General of all time? - AngryAphid - 06-04-2014 06:48 PM

Joshua.


RE: Who's your favorite General of all time? - john01992 - 06-04-2014 06:49 PM

(06-04-2014 06:11 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  
(06-04-2014 05:39 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  Genghis Khan

This. The mongol Khan leaders in general. THERE IS NO COMPARISON.

You guys just don't understand. He is separated by a multiple with several zeros in it from anybody else.

Khan killed over 10,000,000 people.

Mounds of human remains were mistaken for snow capped mountains by nomads and travelers.

The mongols surrounded Baghdad and sent in an envoy to negotiate surrender terms. They killed the envoy. So the mongols wiped out Baghdad. All of it. They then CAME BACK a few days later to wipe out the people who manged to flee or hide. It only TODAY (750 years later) that the population of Baghdad is close to what it was before the mongols got there. At the time in 1258 it was the Islamic Golden Age. The Islamic world gave us algebra and many classic literary works. The mongol siege of Baghdad marks the end of the Islamic Golden Age. They wiped out even the knowledge of the people they conquered (foolishly). And then they spread their DNA around the women they conquered ... in particular the Khans. Genghis:

Quote:An international group of geneticists studying Y-chromosome data have found that nearly 8 percent of the men living in the region of the former Mongol empire carry y-chromosomes that are nearly identical. That translates to 0.5 percent of the male population in the world, or roughly 16 million descendants living today.


http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/02/0214_030214_genghis.html

he sure was a manwhore05-stirthepot


RE: Who's your favorite General of all time? - UCGrad1992 - 06-04-2014 07:38 PM

Some worthy names have been mentioned no doubt but Alexander has to be up toward the top when factoring in his ability to adapt his leadership, strategy and tactics and the amount of territory he conquered spreading the influence of Greek civilization and culture. This really became the precursor to the Roman Empire.

Quote:Alexander earned the epithet "the Great" due to his unparalleled success as a military commander. He never lost a battle, despite typically being outnumbered. This was due to use of terrain, phalanx and cavalry tactics, bold strategy, and the fierce loyalty of his troops. The Macedonian phalanx, armed with the sarissa, a spear 6 metres (20 ft) long, had been developed and perfected by Philip II through rigorous training, and Alexander used its speed and maneuverability to great effect against larger but more disparate Persian forces. Alexander also recognized the potential for disunity among his diverse army, which employed various languages and weapons. He overcame this by being personally involved in battle. When faced with opponents who used unfamiliar fighting techniques, such as in Central Asia and India, Alexander adapted his forces to his opponents' style.



RE: Who's your favorite General of all time? - bitcruncher - 06-04-2014 07:41 PM

(06-04-2014 06:49 PM)john01992 Wrote:  
(06-04-2014 06:11 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  
(06-04-2014 05:39 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  Genghis Khan
This. The mongol Khan leaders in general. THERE IS NO COMPARISON.

You guys just don't understand. He is separated by a multiple with several zeros in it from anybody else.

Khan killed over 10,000,000 people.

Mounds of human remains were mistaken for snow capped mountains by nomads and travelers.

The mongols surrounded Baghdad and sent in an envoy to negotiate surrender terms. They killed the envoy. So the mongols wiped out Baghdad. All of it. They then CAME BACK a few days later to wipe out the people who manged to flee or hide. It only TODAY (750 years later) that the population of Baghdad is close to what it was before the mongols got there. At the time in 1258 it was the Islamic Golden Age. The Islamic world gave us algebra and many classic literary works. The mongol siege of Baghdad marks the end of the Islamic Golden Age. They wiped out even the knowledge of the people they conquered (foolishly). And then they spread their DNA around the women they conquered ... in particular the Khans. Genghis:

Quote:An international group of geneticists studying Y-chromosome data have found that nearly 8 percent of the men living in the region of the former Mongol empire carry y-chromosomes that are nearly identical. That translates to 0.5 percent of the male population in the world, or roughly 16 million descendants living today.


http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/02/0214_030214_genghis.html
he sure was a manwhore05-stirthepot
Jealous? 05-stirthepot

(06-04-2014 07:38 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  Some worthy names have been mentioned no doubt but Alexander has to be up toward the top when factoring in his ability to adapt his leadership, strategy and tactics and the amount of territory he conquered spreading the influence of Greek civilization and culture. This really became the precursor to the Roman Empire.
Quote:Alexander earned the epithet "the Great" due to his unparalleled success as a military commander. He never lost a battle, despite typically being outnumbered. This was due to use of terrain, phalanx and cavalry tactics, bold strategy, and the fierce loyalty of his troops. The Macedonian phalanx, armed with the sarissa, a spear 6 metres (20 ft) long, had been developed and perfected by Philip II through rigorous training, and Alexander used its speed and maneuverability to great effect against larger but more disparate Persian forces. Alexander also recognized the potential for disunity among his diverse army, which employed various languages and weapons. He overcame this by being personally involved in battle. When faced with opponents who used unfamiliar fighting techniques, such as in Central Asia and India, Alexander adapted his forces to his opponents' style.
I considered Alexander when first posting. But Genghis Kahn's legacy was far greater IMO. He altered the course of history in ways we really can't comprehend today, and his genetic legacy is merely one aspect of that legacy. Alexander was a piker by comparison.


RE: Who's your favorite General of all time? - EverRespect - 06-04-2014 08:24 PM

Hannibal is a great pick. Crossed the Alps with an army of elephants. Nuts. Other ones: Attila, Alaric, Alexander, Marius

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RE: Who's your favorite General of all time? - UCGrad1992 - 06-04-2014 08:28 PM

(06-04-2014 07:41 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  I considered Alexander when first posting. But Genghis Kahn's legacy was far greater IMO. He altered the course of history in ways we really can't comprehend today, and his genetic legacy is merely one aspect of that legacy. Alexander was a piker by comparison.

I'm not disputing the points made for Genghis Kahn as being the greatest (arguably) general but I don't agree that the gap between him and Alexander the Great is as wide as you suggest. I think you are underestimating the cultural influence of Alexander's conquests as well. One of the many ancient cities he founded was Alexandria in 300 BC that became one of the greatest/most influential Mediterranean cities in terms of trade and culture.