(05-15-2014 08:27 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  GTS said this the other day in a thread. It's just not easy to use. Windows should have kept with their basic format. When people are clamoring to go back to your old system you have a problem. The start screen is even bs. When will Microsoft get it's game together and stop trying to be Apple. It's ok. Do what you do, you have a fan base.


My 2 cents.

(05-15-2014 08:27 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  GTS said this the other day in a thread. It's just not easy to use. Windows should have kept with their basic format. When people are clamoring to go back to your old system you have a problem. The start screen is even bs. When will Microsoft get it's game together and stop trying to be Apple. It's ok. Do what you do, you have a fan base.


My 2 cents.

(05-15-2014 08:31 AM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(05-15-2014 08:27 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  GTS said this the other day in a thread. It's just not easy to use. Windows should have kept with their basic format. When people are clamoring to go back to your old system you have a problem. The start screen is even bs. When will Microsoft get it's game together and stop trying to be Apple. It's ok. Do what you do, you have a fan base.


My 2 cents.

In that thread I posted a link to a program that will change the shell to look and act like Windows XP or 7. That's what I did for my kid's computer.

(05-15-2014 08:32 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(05-15-2014 08:31 AM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(05-15-2014 08:27 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  GTS said this the other day in a thread. It's just not easy to use. Windows should have kept with their basic format. When people are clamoring to go back to your old system you have a problem. The start screen is even bs. When will Microsoft get it's game together and stop trying to be Apple. It's ok. Do what you do, you have a fan base.


My 2 cents.

In that thread I posted a link to a program that will change the shell to look and act like Windows XP or 7. That's what I did for my kid's computer.

Then what is the point. Why not just wipe it out and install Windows 7?

(05-15-2014 08:27 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  GTS said this the other day in a thread. It's just not easy to use. Windows should have kept with their basic format. When people are clamoring to go back to your old system you have a problem. The start screen is even bs. When will Microsoft get it's game together and stop trying to be Apple. It's ok. Do what you do, you have a fan base.


My 2 cents.

(05-15-2014 08:38 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  I think it's the apps on the start page that people don't care for, and I can understand that. I don't care for them all that much, but the rest of the system seems to be about the same.

There is no point in having Windows 8 unless you have a touch screen IMO.

(05-15-2014 08:40 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(05-15-2014 08:38 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  I think it's the apps on the start page that people don't care for, and I can understand that. I don't care for them all that much, but the rest of the system seems to be about the same.

There is no point in having Windows 8 unless you have a touch screen IMO.

Also from that screen, you can type whatever you're looking for and it instantly pulls up everything related to that word. That's an awesome feature.

(05-15-2014 08:41 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(05-15-2014 08:40 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(05-15-2014 08:38 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  I think it's the apps on the start page that people don't care for, and I can understand that. I don't care for them all that much, but the rest of the system seems to be about the same.

There is no point in having Windows 8 unless you have a touch screen IMO.

Also from that screen, you can type whatever you're looking for and it instantly pulls up everything related to that word. That's an awesome feature.

I saw that. That is kinda cool. However, it will be hard to break me of my Google search.

(05-15-2014 08:41 AM)mlb Wrote:  Microsoft has the every other version rule... or so it seems every other is awful.

That being said, where they screwed up was that they tried to push the tablet interface to the PC. They should have kept 2 separate version, 1 for mobile devices and 1 for PCs. Windows 8.1 does allow you to bring back the start button now, or as someone else mentioned you can install an after market product that adds a start menu.

No doubt their idea for "moving forward" was more of a step back than anything.

(05-15-2014 08:41 AM)mlb Wrote:  Microsoft has the every other version rule... or so it seems every other is awful.

That being said, where they screwed up was that they tried to push the tablet interface to the PC. They should have kept 2 separate version, 1 for mobile devices and 1 for PCs. Windows 8.1 does allow you to bring back the start button now, or as someone else mentioned you can install an after market product that adds a start menu.

No doubt their idea for "moving forward" was more of a step back than anything.

(05-15-2014 08:50 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(05-15-2014 08:41 AM)mlb Wrote:  Microsoft has the every other version rule... or so it seems every other is awful.

That being said, where they screwed up was that they tried to push the tablet interface to the PC. They should have kept 2 separate version, 1 for mobile devices and 1 for PCs. Windows 8.1 does allow you to bring back the start button now, or as someone else mentioned you can install an after market product that adds a start menu.

No doubt their idea for "moving forward" was more of a step back than anything.

My understanding is the Windows OS is Ark of the Covenant for Mircosoft. There can be no other rival operating systems. So when tablets took off, MS needed to find a way to merge both versions into one OS, which is what Win 8 was supposed to do. Apparently MS had developed a decent smartphone OS, but was eventually killed because it couldn't be merged with Windows.

(05-15-2014 08:55 AM)Niner National Wrote:  Windows DOES have not just a decent smartphone OS, but a great one.

Windows Phone's operating system is fast, smooth, and operates flawlessly on every device. It is also very customizable. The one drawback the Windows Phone OS has is lack of some apps, but most of the big ones are on there. I don't really use apps much though, so I don't care. I just like to have a phone that can take great pictures (and Nokia's are unrivaled there), use the internet, text, and make calls.

It doesn't have much of a market share in the U.S. (4-5%) because hating Microsoft is the cool thing to do here, but it is doing very well overseas.

It has a higher market share than Apple in several European countries and it is also killing it in emerging markets. Buying Nokia was a great decision. Their phones are in line with the best on the market and given time, Americans will figure that out too.

(05-15-2014 09:05 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(05-15-2014 08:55 AM)Niner National Wrote:  Windows DOES have not just a decent smartphone OS, but a great one.

Windows Phone's operating system is fast, smooth, and operates flawlessly on every device. It is also very customizable. The one drawback the Windows Phone OS has is lack of some apps, but most of the big ones are on there. I don't really use apps much though, so I don't care. I just like to have a phone that can take great pictures (and Nokia's are unrivaled there), use the internet, text, and make calls.

It doesn't have much of a market share in the U.S. (4-5%) because hating Microsoft is the cool thing to do here, but it is doing very well overseas.

It has a higher market share than Apple in several European countries and it is also killing it in emerging markets. Buying Nokia was a great decision. Their phones are in line with the best on the market and given time, Americans will figure that out too.

I have not messed around much with the Windows phone OS, but I love Android and its open architecture so I'm not sure I'll ever end up on Windows in a mobile environment. As far as Apple goes, I refuse to pay big money for substandard hardware in order to get an "Apple" logo.