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More Cinco De Mayo Problems In School - smn1256 - 05-03-2014 11:30 AM

Quote:MORGAN HILL -- The days leading up to Cinco de Mayo have put this bucolic burg on edge.

A "patriot" group, a mysterious band of bikers and a right-wing radio host from Los Angeles are urging Californians to protest outside a Morgan Hill high school where school officials four years ago told some students to turn their American flag T-shirts inside out -- or go home.

Many Morgan Hill residents had hoped the nationwide controversy spurred by the order had died down. But a recent federal appeals court ruling in favor of the administration has resurrected the fiery issue, and opponents plan on picketing the high school on Monday's Mexican holiday.

"This whole thing is ugly," said Rey Morales, a parent whose sons, now 10 and 12, had rocks thrown at them after the contretemps erupted in 2010. "It's not just affecting the school. It's hurting this entire community."

Morales is so worried about violence on Monday that he's keeping his four children home from school. And concerned police are watching closely.

But those who plan to protest insist on their right to do so.

"What disruption are they concerned about?" asked William Becker Jr., an attorney who filed suit against the school district over the original incident. "They must be afraid of their own behaviors. They must be incapable of controlling their emotions when people they disagree with want to freely exercise their First Amendment right of free speech."

Raw nerves

The raw nerves in this town of 40,000 stretch back to May 5, 2010, when Live Oak High School was festooned in cultural colors and Mexican flags. But when four boys showed up with their American flag shirts -- proclaiming that it was nothing more than a show of American pride -- Latino students saw it as sign of disrespect.

When tempers flared, school officials interceded. But when word of the incident got out, a bitter brouhaha erupted across the nation. The left maintained that ethnic pride is not anti-American. The right said that Cinco de Mayo does not cancel the right to visibly express pride in being an American.

Becker's firm,

Freedom X, filed a federal lawsuit against the school district and Live Oak administrators. It alleged that the boys' First Amendment right to freedom of expression and their 14th Amendment rights of due process and equal protection had been violated. The case reached a three-judge panel at the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, which in February said campus safety outweighed the students' First Amendment claims. The court pointed to previous years of Cinco de Mayo trouble at Live Oak. So Freedom X filed another appeal, asking that the case be heard by 11 judges.

As Monday approaches, the fresh upsurge of anxiety has spurred numerous community meetings focused on making sure this year's celebration does not morph into an out-of-control invasion of angry outsiders. And although a number of Live Oak students have asked all the adults to "let it go," the Gilroy Morgan Hill Patriots plan to stand out in front of the school, beginning at 7:30 a.m., and hold American flags in silence.

"We will not carry signs," said Georgine Scott-Codiga, the group's president. "We will be very respectful of students, and we won't disrupt school in any way, shape or form."

She promises that no more than 50 protesters at a time will spend roughly an hour in front of the school. But with word of the event being fanned by social media and radio host Jimmy Z, there is fear that all the strangers won't get the peaceful message.

After Scott-Codiga's group announced its plan, a group that supported the court decision -- We The People Morgan Hill -- began contemplating what it might do on Monday. At first, the group planned to be outside the school -- until students objected.

But the group will hold a Monday rally outside the Morgan Hill Community and Cultural Center, from 5 p.m. to 7 p.m. "We want to show that just because you celebrate a cultural holiday does not make you anti-American," said attorney Juan Lopez, an organizer with the group. "We will have a unity, respect and peace rally. We will not be coldhearted and full of hate like the Patriots."

Mystery motorcyclists

Morales, the father of the two boys who were attacked in the aftermath of the 2010 clash, agreed with that sentiment. "It does not matter your ethnicity or heritage; we are all Americans," he said. "Making children feel shameful for their heritage is not right. And as for Monday, safety for kids trumps freedom of speech."

Several right-wing websites have called for motorcyclists to gather in Morgan Hill and become part of a cruise to the school at dismissal time, followed by a mass ride around town. What's unsettling is that nobody, even the police, has been able to find out anything about the motorcycle riders.

But the Morgan Hill Police Department says it isn't taking any chances.

"We intend to be on top of crowd management," said police spokesman Carson Thomas, whose department has made face-to-face contact with all involved groups except the unknown motorcyclists. "Our main focus is on protecting students and staff at the school."

Steve Betando, superintendent of the Morgan Hill Unified School District, said online videos from four years ago left a bad impression of Live Oak -- and today's students are still sensitive to those images. He said students are concentrating on Advanced Placement tests and college applications and want their school to be left out of the controversy.

Betando said every preparation has been made to protect Live Oak on Monday -- inside and out.

"The kids feel a great amount of responsibility for one another," said Betando, who hopes Cinco de Mayo goes off without a hitch. "The students believe the outside adult issues should not interfere with what they are doing with their lives today. "

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RE: More Cinco De Mayo Problems In School - Fo Shizzle - 05-03-2014 11:49 AM

No American should be chastised for wearing the flag of their country...period.

I find it funny that these kids are celebrating Cinco De Mayo as such a fcking big deal...and yet... I bet you could not get them to voluntarily immigrate back to Mexico if their lives depended on it. Mexico is schithole..pure and simple. Evidently they fail to understand just how crappy it is compared to America. These kids are Americans BTW. I am amazed they celebrate a holiday of a country that their parents so much wanted to leave. There should be no Cinco De Mayo or celebrations or ANY celebrations from other countries other than ours...period. Celebrate May 5th at Del Taco or at home on you own property. Keep it out of the public schools.


RE: More Cinco De Mayo Problems In School - smn1256 - 05-03-2014 11:53 AM

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RE: More Cinco De Mayo Problems In School - Paul M - 05-03-2014 11:57 AM

(05-03-2014 11:53 AM)smn1256 Wrote:  [Image: worldturnedupsidedown.jpg]

I'm a peaceable fella but...


RE: More Cinco De Mayo Problems In School - JDTulane - 05-03-2014 12:03 PM

While it wouldn't surprise me that these kids (or rather their parents?) were wearing the shirts as some sort of anti immigration or anti mexican protest... no kid should ever, EVER be forced to change out his American t-shirt. That is ridiculous.


RE: More Cinco De Mayo Problems In School - oklalittledixie - 05-03-2014 12:08 PM

Good. Maybe the racist hispanics will learn that CA is no longer part of Mexico.


RE: More Cinco De Mayo Problems In School - JDTulane - 05-03-2014 12:14 PM

...... and then okla appears and spits that crap out. smh


RE: More Cinco De Mayo Problems In School - smn1256 - 05-03-2014 12:17 PM

(05-03-2014 12:14 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  ...... and then okla appears and spits that crap out. smh

What crap? Many Mexicans and Americans think parts of California belong to Mexico. Why is it we have to respect other cultures and their patriotism to their countries but we let them crap all over ours?


RE: More Cinco De Mayo Problems In School - oklalittledixie - 05-03-2014 12:20 PM

(05-03-2014 12:14 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  ...... and then okla appears and spits that crap out. smh

You are becoming a little too obsessed with me. I think you might want to talk to the admin about your role on this forum.


RE: More Cinco De Mayo Problems In School - JDTulane - 05-03-2014 12:47 PM

(05-03-2014 12:17 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  
(05-03-2014 12:14 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  ...... and then okla appears and spits that crap out. smh

What crap? Many Mexicans and Americans think parts of California belong to Mexico. Why is it we have to respect other cultures and their patriotism to their countries but we let them crap all over ours?

Respect them by calling them racist?

Quote: You are becoming a little too obsessed with me. I think you might want to talk to the admin about your role on this forum.
The spin board largely goes un-moderated. And no one cares that much about you okla. Stop flattering yourself.


RE: More Cinco De Mayo Problems In School - HeartOfDixie - 05-03-2014 01:20 PM

Cinco de Mayo is a day to eat Mexican food and get drunk. It's not a real holiday, just like Mexico isn't a real functioning country.




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RE: More Cinco De Mayo Problems In School - Memphis Blazer - 05-03-2014 01:36 PM

(05-03-2014 11:49 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  No American should be chastised for wearing the flag of their country...period.

I find it funny that these kids are celebrating Cinco De Mayo as such a fcking big deal...and yet... I bet you could not get them to voluntarily immigrate back to Mexico if their lives depended on it. Mexico is schithole..pure and simple. Evidently they fail to understand just how crappy it is compared to America. These kids are Americans BTW. I am amazed they celebrate a holiday of a country that their parents so much wanted to leave. There should be no Cinco De Mayo or celebrations or ANY celebrations from other countries other than ours...period. Celebrate May 5th at Del Taco or at home on you own property. Keep it out of the public schools.

Christmas is a celebration from another country.


RE: More Cinco De Mayo Problems In School - oklalittledixie - 05-03-2014 01:38 PM

(05-03-2014 12:47 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  
(05-03-2014 12:17 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  
(05-03-2014 12:14 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  ...... and then okla appears and spits that crap out. smh

What crap? Many Mexicans and Americans think parts of California belong to Mexico. Why is it we have to respect other cultures and their patriotism to their countries but we let them crap all over ours?

Respect them by calling them racist?

Quote: You are becoming a little too obsessed with me. I think you might want to talk to the admin about your role on this forum.
The spin board largely goes un-moderated. And no one cares that much about you okla. Stop flattering yourself.

You sure do.


RE: More Cinco De Mayo Problems In School - Fo Shizzle - 05-03-2014 06:52 PM

(05-03-2014 01:36 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  
(05-03-2014 11:49 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  No American should be chastised for wearing the flag of their country...period.

I find it funny that these kids are celebrating Cinco De Mayo as such a fcking big deal...and yet... I bet you could not get them to voluntarily immigrate back to Mexico if their lives depended on it. Mexico is schithole..pure and simple. Evidently they fail to understand just how crappy it is compared to America. These kids are Americans BTW. I am amazed they celebrate a holiday of a country that their parents so much wanted to leave. There should be no Cinco De Mayo or celebrations or ANY celebrations from other countries other than ours...period. Celebrate May 5th at Del Taco or at home on you own property. Keep it out of the public schools.

Christmas is a celebration from another country.

I don't give a fck about that in the public schools either....but honestly...Is that the best you could come up with?


RE: More Cinco De Mayo Problems In School - Fo Shizzle - 05-03-2014 06:55 PM

(05-03-2014 01:20 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Cinco de Mayo is a day to eat Mexican food and get drunk. It's not a real holiday, just like Mexico isn't a real functioning country.

Yep. Just keep it out of public schools. How about learning schit instead of having fcking celebrations constantly? Lets celebrate some damn education.
I think most of this schit is just lazy ass educators looking for more time to fck off and not do their jobs.


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jk



RE: More Cinco De Mayo Problems In School - DaSaintFan - 05-04-2014 10:00 PM

So why are we wanting to celebrate a shipwreck of a cargo boat carrying a ton of Hellmann's?


RE: More Cinco De Mayo Problems In School - Jerry Falwell - 05-05-2014 07:52 AM

Maybe the kids could consider sporting the Stars & Bars instead?


RE: More Cinco De Mayo Problems In School - BeliefBlazer - 05-05-2014 08:00 AM

(05-03-2014 11:53 AM)smn1256 Wrote:  [Image: worldturnedupsidedown.jpg]

They are just celebrating a flag that represents their heritage. I'm sure they don't intend for it to be offensive.


RE: More Cinco De Mayo Problems In School - DrTorch - 05-05-2014 08:02 AM

(05-03-2014 12:14 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  ...... and then okla appears and spits that crap out. smh

Sure, Reconquista is just a myth. Heck, the word doesn't even really exist.


RE: More Cinco De Mayo Problems In School - Memphis Blazer - 05-05-2014 08:02 AM

(05-03-2014 06:52 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(05-03-2014 01:36 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  
(05-03-2014 11:49 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  No American should be chastised for wearing the flag of their country...period.

I find it funny that these kids are celebrating Cinco De Mayo as such a fcking big deal...and yet... I bet you could not get them to voluntarily immigrate back to Mexico if their lives depended on it. Mexico is schithole..pure and simple. Evidently they fail to understand just how crappy it is compared to America. These kids are Americans BTW. I am amazed they celebrate a holiday of a country that their parents so much wanted to leave. There should be no Cinco De Mayo or celebrations or ANY celebrations from other countries other than ours...period. Celebrate May 5th at Del Taco or at home on you own property. Keep it out of the public schools.

Christmas is a celebration from another country.

I don't give a fck about that in the public schools either....but honestly...Is that the best you could come up with?

No, I could do better, but for you that was all the energy I was willing to expend.