(04-08-2014 10:23 PM)Jmubarkers Wrote:  

(04-08-2014 10:04 PM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  Do you think if they move quick enough they could have a new coaching staff in time to grab some recruits and convince Cooke to stay around?

Wonder if we talk to the same people sometimes...that's not too far from AD department thinking, I also think Jeff was pretty disturbed by conversation with Cooke and reasons for leaving. People need to understand that Cooke is leaving because he doesn't want to be part of the mess that is basketball, no direction or improvement.

Talking to some A10 Bball staff and others in other programs, Cooke is definitely leaving. It would take grades derailing his plans and a significant hire and promises(that I would never make to a player) for him to stay.

Conversation in Admin regarding Brady now is....
1.APR
2.institutional control(you don't have your best player out for more than half season and 2 transfer) among other things and think you have control of program.
3.recruiting in talent
4. Not winning in a sub par league
5. A lot of admin and boosters are fed up with Bball program and want a fresh start like football program
6.that conference move decision is upon us.

(04-08-2014 11:04 PM)Hotrod829 Wrote:  And i don't understand why people are fed up with this program, we just had a good run last year. Sometimes I think the JMU fan base can be unrealistic at times.

(04-08-2014 11:27 PM)DoubleDDuke Wrote:  That's the problem I see is the low expectations. There are people here who will argue about how the convo is a good basketball facility.

Quote:I think Brady is a darn good coach

Quote:It's his hiring of assistants and inability to build team/program concepts

(04-08-2014 11:12 PM)rufus Wrote:  

(04-08-2014 11:04 PM)Hotrod829 Wrote:  And i don't understand why people are fed up with this program, we just had a good run last year. Sometimes I think the JMU fan base can be unrealistic at times.

We won the CAA tournament in an extreme down year. The CAA's conference RPI was #24 -- the worst CAA showing that I can recall. We got a low 16 seed, resulting in a play-in game. Sure we won the play-in game, but I would hardly call that a good run. I agree that JMU fans, like all fans, can sometimes have unrealistically high expectations at times. On the other hand, I think our expectations are unrealistically low if all we expect is a 16 seed NCAA bid every five years or so. We can do better.

(04-08-2014 11:51 PM)Hotrod829 Wrote:  

(04-08-2014 11:12 PM)rufus Wrote:  

(04-08-2014 11:04 PM)Hotrod829 Wrote:  And i don't understand why people are fed up with this program, we just had a good run last year. Sometimes I think the JMU fan base can be unrealistic at times.

We won the CAA tournament in an extreme down year. The CAA's conference RPI was #24 -- the worst CAA showing that I can recall. We got a low 16 seed, resulting in a play-in game. Sure we won the play-in game, but I would hardly call that a good run. I agree that JMU fans, like all fans, can sometimes have unrealistically high expectations at times. On the other hand, I think our expectations are unrealistically low if all we expect is a 16 seed NCAA bid every five years or so. We can do better.

I really only like dealing with things we can control.The politics should be left up too upper management and not on the shoulders of the coaches and players. Because they probably want to play in the best conferences as well. The conference was down last year , yes , but we still had to come out and play basketball. We won the games we needed to win.There were hundreds of other teams watching us play two nationally televised games. We were a young teem this year that competed very hard. Being youung and a mid major is not a very good mix.

We are a mid major team wanting to move up to be a bigger mid major team lol. But has you can see top programs also deal with players leaving, so i am not putting that on Brady. Four years is short period of time to play a sport you love. So if your not going to play at you current school , go somewhere else and play.

I say give Brady two to three more years to see if he can help this group mature.

(04-09-2014 12:01 AM)HolyCityDuke Wrote:  

(04-08-2014 11:51 PM)Hotrod829 Wrote:  

(04-08-2014 11:12 PM)rufus Wrote:  

(04-08-2014 11:04 PM)Hotrod829 Wrote:  And i don't understand why people are fed up with this program, we just had a good run last year. Sometimes I think the JMU fan base can be unrealistic at times.

We won the CAA tournament in an extreme down year. The CAA's conference RPI was #24 -- the worst CAA showing that I can recall. We got a low 16 seed, resulting in a play-in game. Sure we won the play-in game, but I would hardly call that a good run. I agree that JMU fans, like all fans, can sometimes have unrealistically high expectations at times. On the other hand, I think our expectations are unrealistically low if all we expect is a 16 seed NCAA bid every five years or so. We can do better.

I really only like dealing with things we can control.The politics should be left up too upper management and not on the shoulders of the coaches and players. Because they probably want to play in the best conferences as well. The conference was down last year , yes , but we still had to come out and play basketball. We won the games we needed to win.There were hundreds of other teams watching us play two nationally televised games. We were a young teem this year that competed very hard. Being youung and a mid major is not a very good mix.

We are a mid major team wanting to move up to be a bigger mid major team lol. But has you can see top programs also deal with players leaving, so i am not putting that on Brady. Four years is short period of time to play a sport you love. So if your not going to play at you current school , go somewhere else and play.

I say give Brady two to three more years to see if he can help this group mature.

Even as an outsider, you can see how downtrodden the program is. Brady doesn't come across as a very personable coach and he's responsible for all of the issues. He brings in the players (who can't pass or go to class), he sets the plays, he sets the mood of the program. To be honest, he just doesn't fit at JMU. It's all a business to him, he doesn't seem to enjoy his job.

(04-09-2014 05:58 AM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  I think when you look at it logically Brady will get this year- I don't see JMU who tends to be very cautious firing him a year removed from an extension when he hasn't done anything egregious- even the APR thing while it has hovered over the program probably wouldn't be grounds for termination- other mid major programs- UNCW, Towson, etc. have had APR issues and their coaches have kept their jobs- I don't think a team on APR penalty is very attractive for another coach anyway. The recruiting has been uneven- he has brought in some talent and some of that could be validated in a weird way by where guys like Cooke and even Bessick end up- but he's also had a couple of classes where there wasn't much talent but there haven't been off court issues, he's presented himself well in terms of representing the university (where he lives and the lack of the summer camp notwithstanding). I think he deserves the year and he gets it- I doubt Bourne even has the ability to make the call himself even if he was ready to move on from Brady.

(04-09-2014 07:56 AM)2XDuke Wrote:  I've heard Brady doesn't love Harrisonburg and he hasn't received the warmest embrace from the community. I believe he lives in Crozet, not even in H'burg which is why some people feel he's not embracing the community