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OT - Nevada and Hawai'i Combine for Minimum Possible Hitters in 9 Innings - That Guy 2012 - 03-19-2014 12:05 AM
I'm curious how many times this has happened before; it has to be one of the rarer feats in the sport.
http://www.nevadawolfpack.com/blog/2014/03/pitchers-gem.html
Quote:The University of Nevada baseball team lost 1-0 at Hawai`i on Monday night at Les Murakami Stadium as both pitchers tossed complete game gems. One rare occurrence was that only 52 batters came to the plate. The 52 batters is the minimum that could come to the plate in a complete nine-inning game.
Wolf Pack starter Tyler Wells suffered the loss allowing just two hits and struck out eight in a career-high eight innings. Wells faced 25 batters, one over the minimum.
The Rainbow Warriors leadoff hitter Stephen Ventimilia, in the bottom of the first inning was the only player that scored as he singled, stole second base and advance to third on the same play courtesy of a wild pitch. Ventimilia scored the only run of the of the night on a groundout by Kaeo Aliviado.
After the single to Ventimilia Wells retired the next 18 batters before allowing a single to Aliviado in the seventh. Wells caught Aliviado stealing second base and retired the next five batters to end the game.
UH starter Scott Kuzminsky earned the victory allowing two hits and walked just one facing the minimum 27 batters. Pack first baseman Austin Byler walked in the first inning and was caught stealing. Catcher Jordan Devencenzi singled in the fifth inning and was retired on a double play. Byler singled in the seventh and was erased on a double play.
The only runner to get past first base in the game was Ventimilia in the first inning.
RE: OT - Nevada and Hawai'i Combine for Minimum Possible Hitters in 9 Innings - TazOwl - 03-19-2014 08:22 AM
(03-19-2014 12:05 AM)That Guy 2012 Wrote: I'm curious how many times this has happened before; it has to be one of the rarer feats in the sport.
http://www.nevadawolfpack.com/blog/2014/03/pitchers-gem.html
Quote:The University of Nevada baseball team lost 1-0 at Hawai`i on Monday night at Les Murakami Stadium as both pitchers tossed complete game gems. One rare occurrence was that only 52 batters came to the plate. The 52 batters is the minimum that could come to the plate in a complete nine-inning game.
This is the first time I had ever heard of this. However, I am thinking it would be 51 batters, not 52. You have a minimum of 27 batters for the visiting team and 24 for the home team, that adds up to 51. Correct me if I have it wrong but just saying.
RE: OT - Nevada and Hawai'i Combine for Minimum Possible Hitters in 9 Innings - Orange County Owl - 03-19-2014 08:25 AM
(03-19-2014 08:22 AM)TazOwl Wrote: This is the first time I had ever heard of this. However, I am thinking it would be 51 batters, not 52. You have a minimum of 27 batters for the visiting team and 24 for the home team, that adds up to 51. Correct me if I have it wrong but just saying.
I think one runner has to score to win the game, resulting in 52.
RE: OT - Nevada and Hawai'i Combine for Minimum Possible Hitters in 9 Innings - NicevilleWRC - 03-19-2014 08:42 AM
(03-19-2014 12:05 AM)That Guy 2012 Wrote: I'm curious how many times this has happened before; it has to be one of the rarer feats in the sport.
http://www.nevadawolfpack.com/blog/2014/03/pitchers-gem.html
Closest thing I can find in MLB is a 1992 game between the Pirates and Braves that had 57 plate appearances, which is 5 above the minimum.
http://www.fangraphs.com/boxscore.aspx?date=1992-07-25&team=Braves&dh=0&season=1992
RE: OT - Nevada and Hawai'i Combine for Minimum Possible Hitters in 9 Innings - Antarius - 03-19-2014 09:46 AM
(03-19-2014 08:22 AM)TazOwl Wrote: This is the first time I had ever heard of this. However, I am thinking it would be 51 batters, not 52. You have a minimum of 27 batters for the visiting team and 24 for the home team, that adds up to 51. Correct me if I have it wrong but just saying.
The winning team would have 1 extra batter (who scores the run)
EDIT: OCO got it first. Goes to show what happens when I go for a meeting mid response
RE: OT - Nevada and Hawai'i Combine for Minimum Possible Hitters in 9 Innings - MJY - 03-19-2014 10:46 AM
A little different, but Dallas Baptist and Missouri State played an interesting series last weekend. All three games were scoreless going into the 9th, and in all three, DBU scored in the top of the 9th to win (1-0, 2-0 and 1-0).
RE: OT - Nevada and Hawai'i Combine for Minimum Possible Hitters in 9 Innings - Rick Gerlach - 03-19-2014 11:00 AM
(03-19-2014 08:42 AM)NicevilleWRC Wrote:(03-19-2014 12:05 AM)That Guy 2012 Wrote: I'm curious how many times this has happened before; it has to be one of the rarer feats in the sport.
http://www.nevadawolfpack.com/blog/2014/03/pitchers-gem.html
Closest thing I can find in MLB is a 1992 game between the Pirates and Braves that had 57 plate appearances, which is 5 above the minimum.
http://www.fangraphs.com/boxscore.aspx?date=1992-07-25&team=Braves&dh=0&season=1992
That box score made me feel old . . . names from past fantasy league seasons . . .
and Barry Bonds batting 5th? I mean he was MVP caliber already. I'd understand leadoff better than 5th.
RE: OT - Nevada and Hawai'i Combine for Minimum Possible Hitters in 9 Innings - TazOwl - 03-19-2014 11:53 AM
(03-19-2014 09:46 AM)Antarius Wrote:(03-19-2014 08:22 AM)TazOwl Wrote: This is the first time I had ever heard of this. However, I am thinking it would be 51 batters, not 52. You have a minimum of 27 batters for the visiting team and 24 for the home team, that adds up to 51. Correct me if I have it wrong but just saying.
The winning team would have 1 extra batter (who scores the run)
Alright, that makes sense! Didn't think of that! I did email my HS baseball coach who probably knows as much baseball as anyone I have known, he had never seen or heard of it happening either.
RE: OT - Nevada and Hawai'i Combine for Minimum Possible Hitters in 9 Innings - I45owl - 03-19-2014 12:14 PM
(03-19-2014 08:25 AM)Orange County Owl Wrote:(03-19-2014 08:22 AM)TazOwl Wrote: This is the first time I had ever heard of this. However, I am thinking it would be 51 batters, not 52. You have a minimum of 27 batters for the visiting team and 24 for the home team, that adds up to 51. Correct me if I have it wrong but just saying.
I think one runner has to score to win the game, resulting in 52.
Without which, the home team would have to bat in the bottom of the 9th, making 54 batters, which is where I though this would go, given the thread title. I assumed it was an extra inning game, tied 0-0 at the end of 9.
I would guess that by sending up batters out of order, there may be a way to have less than three batters in an inning, but that's like one of those soccer games that ends 54-0... someone's stacking the deck.
RE: OT - Nevada and Hawai'i Combine for Minimum Possible Hitters in 9 Innings - OptimisticOwl - 03-19-2014 12:51 PM
(03-19-2014 12:14 PM)I45owl Wrote: like one of those soccer games that ends 54-0
I hate it when that happens.
RE: OT - Nevada and Hawai'i Combine for Minimum Possible Hitters in 9 Innings - Baconator - 03-19-2014 02:12 PM
You could have 54 batters if the home team hit a GW HR in the bottom of the 9th with two outs.
RE: OT - Nevada and Hawai'i Combine for Minimum Possible Hitters in 9 Innings - Frizzy Owl - 03-19-2014 02:33 PM
There are several ways to get to 54.
OT - Nevada and Hawai'i Combine for Minimum Possible Hitters in 9 Innings - RiceDoc - 03-19-2014 03:14 PM
How about a 7 inning first game in a double header. 10 run rule then in effect after 5. Visitor sends 15 to plate, all outs. Home gets 12 outs plus 10 who score for a total of 22 batters, 37 for both teams.
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OT - Nevada and Hawai'i Combine for Minimum Possible Hitters in 9 Innings - RiceDoc - 03-19-2014 03:26 PM
For those if you who don't like the idea of a 7 inning game, let's make it 9. Then the mercy rule is invoked after 7. Visitors get 21 outs, home gets 18 outs plus 10 runs = 49 total. Still fewer than the 52 in the game that started all this.
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RE: OT - Nevada and Hawai'i Combine for Minimum Possible Hitters in 9 Innings - That Guy 2012 - 03-19-2014 04:02 PM
Then why not a rain shortened midweek game? It can be official after 4.5 if the home team is ahead. If that means 1-0 with 0 combined LOB, the the total number of batters is 28.
RE: OT - Nevada and Hawai'i Combine for Minimum Possible Hitters in 9 Innings - Frizzy Owl - 03-19-2014 04:08 PM
How about a cancelled game?
RE: OT - Nevada and Hawai'i Combine for Minimum Possible Hitters in 9 Innings - Baconator - 03-19-2014 10:46 PM
(03-19-2014 04:08 PM)Frizzy Owl Wrote: How about a cancelled game?
Rice and Texas faced the minimum zero batters last year in that canceled 3 game series.
OT - Nevada and Hawai'i Combine for Minimum Possible Hitters in 9 Innings - owl at the moon - 03-21-2014 08:03 AM
Some may call the scenario contrived, but I believe that a nine inning game can be "realistically" completed with just 28 batters, combined, for both teams. Can y'all come up with scenario (or similar)?
RE: OT - Nevada and Hawai'i Combine for Minimum Possible Hitters in 9 Innings - AnotherOldOwl - 03-21-2014 08:36 AM
(03-21-2014 08:03 AM)owl at the moon Wrote: Some may call the scenario contrived, but I believe that a nine inning game can be "realistically" completed with just 28 batters, combined, for both teams. Can y'all come up with scenario (or similar)?
Sometime in the first four innings the home team hits a home run, no one else reaches base. The visiting team bats in the top of the fifth, then the game is called due to rain. Game is official, total of 28 batters.
RE: OT - Nevada and Hawai'i Combine for Minimum Possible Hitters in 9 Innings - texd - 03-21-2014 10:58 AM
(1) The Nevada/Hawai'i result is incredibly cool. The fact that it involved no contrivances makes it very special. To have seen or played in that game is a story you could tell for the rest of your life.
(2) If we want to talk about facing the minimum through contrivances, here's one for you. Game goes the full 8.5 innings of a regulation game without being called for rain in which the home team wins on a run scored prior to [edit, or even in] the 9th. Total batters faced by the pitchers: 18. To be fair, this is a ridiculous scenario which, though theoretically possible, would never, ever happen.
To see my answer select the text below:
The Answer Wrote:Would require two outs for batting out of order in every inning. Given the way outs for batting out of order are received (on appeal from the defense), this would require the teams to go about this plan intentionally