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WTF Defense (Photo Evidence) - TiminMem23 - 03-14-2014 01:28 PM

Would love to hear Pastner break down this photo. WTF is Dom even doing?

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RE: WTF Defense (Photo Evidence) - idroot4russia - 03-14-2014 01:29 PM

Dom is slow, he cant recover when he hedges on screens.


RE: WTF Defense (Photo Evidence) - Blackcat - 03-14-2014 01:33 PM

#5 looks open in that picture.


RE: WTF Defense (Photo Evidence) - jgardne - 03-14-2014 01:33 PM

Can you even tell what sort of defense we're in there? Why the hell is geron in the middle of the lane? Is it man and he's completely lost? It can't be zone because clearly Dom would be in the middle and not on a wing. I assume King is supposed to be defending #2 and has slid over to help penetration. Joe was screened off the ball. Dom appears completely out of it and must not have hedged or helped at all when his man screened Joe. I'm not sure what Chris is doing but at least he's in position to close out on either wing


RE: WTF Defense (Photo Evidence) - TiminMem23 - 03-14-2014 01:34 PM

(03-14-2014 01:33 PM)Blackcat Wrote:  #5 looks open in that picture.

That's not why he had a career night. He had a career night because he hit shots 05-stirthepot


RE: WTF Defense (Photo Evidence) - tigerderek - 03-14-2014 01:39 PM

Lol almost all 5 guys are in the paint.


RE: WTF Defense (Photo Evidence) - bubbapt - 03-14-2014 01:40 PM

(03-14-2014 01:34 PM)TiminMem23 Wrote:  
(03-14-2014 01:33 PM)Blackcat Wrote:  #5 looks open in that picture.

That's not why he had a career night. He had a career night because he hit shots 05-stirthepot

50% three point shooters will tend to do that when Doris Burke is closer than the defense.


RE: WTF Defense (Photo Evidence) - TiminMem23 - 03-14-2014 01:42 PM

(03-14-2014 01:33 PM)jgardne Wrote:  Can you even tell what sort of defense we're in there? Why the hell is geron in the middle of the lane? Is it man and he's completely lost? It can't be zone because clearly Dom would be in the middle and not on a wing. I assume King is supposed to be defending #2 and has slid over to help penetration. Joe was screened off the ball. Dom appears completely out of it and must not have hedged or helped at all when his man screened Joe. I'm not sure what Chris is doing but at least he's in position to close out on either wing

I'd have to go back and watch the tape to see what set they were actually in, but it looks to me like it was a 2-3 zone with Chris and Joe up top and Dom on the bottom wing, King in the middle and Geron on the other bottom wing (though he slid way over to collapse the paint). JJ was screened and didn't slip it or fight through it. No clue what Dom is doing (if he's even doing anything). I would argue that CC is out of position to be able to close out on Giffey. He cheated too far in the paint when he wasn't need there. King and Geron have it covered.

Pretty bad d. I'm assuming Giffey popped the open 3 (with a weak close out by CC).


RE: WTF Defense (Photo Evidence) - TiminMem23 - 03-14-2014 01:46 PM

Actually, now that I think about it, Dom is the one who screwed this up. If he stays in front of the driver after JJ is screened, then Geron doesn't have to slide way over to help King and can close out on Giffey (which is the space he was ultimately responsible for guarding if this was indeed a 2-3 zone).


RE: WTF Defense (Photo Evidence) - Mimi - 03-14-2014 01:49 PM

So now we know that the players bit too often on the dribble drive!!???

Really!!??


RE: WTF Defense (Photo Evidence) - TiminMem23 - 03-14-2014 01:52 PM

(03-14-2014 01:49 PM)Mimi Wrote:  So now we know that the players bit too often on the dribble drive!!???

Really!!??

According to Josh, they didn't. Or if they did it's not a problem. The problem is UCONN made shots. The Tigers didn't.


RE: WTF Defense (Photo Evidence) - 80sTiger - 03-14-2014 01:54 PM

I was just rows behind Pastner during that play. He was standing with his arms crossed.


RE: WTF Defense (Photo Evidence) - Mimi - 03-14-2014 01:59 PM

Pastner last night said they did not play the dribble drive well.


RE: WTF Defense (Photo Evidence) - ryane211 - 03-14-2014 02:01 PM

I think #5 was in some kind of skill enhancing beam. Possibly from aliens. Didn't see that on TV.


RE: WTF Defense (Photo Evidence) - bubbapt - 03-14-2014 02:05 PM

(03-14-2014 02:01 PM)ryane211 Wrote:  I think #5 was in some kind of skill enhancing beam. Possibly from aliens. Didn't see that on TV.

As long as it knocks the Bruce Pearl threads off the top line, I'm with ya.


RE: WTF Defense (Photo Evidence) - TiminMem23 - 03-14-2014 02:06 PM

(03-14-2014 01:59 PM)Mimi Wrote:  Pastner last night said they did not play the dribble drive well.

Yeah, but it's not a problem. UCONN still had to make shots. They did. The Tigers didn't make shots. Have to make shots when you shoot.


RE: WTF Defense (Photo Evidence) - Tiger46 - 03-14-2014 02:25 PM

(03-14-2014 01:46 PM)TiminMem23 Wrote:  Actually, now that I think about it, Dom is the one who screwed this up. If he stays in front of the driver after JJ is screened, then Geron doesn't have to slide way over to help King and can close out on Giffey (which is the space he was ultimately responsible for guarding if this was indeed a 2-3 zone).

I vaguely remember Dom being in the game. I remember seeing him at the scorers table. Wow.


RE: WTF Defense (Photo Evidence) - Phillip26r - 03-14-2014 02:30 PM

(03-14-2014 01:56 PM)NJ1 Wrote:  We had also pretty much conceded the game by that point.

I'm afraid this is correct. That's the single most disappointing thing about that game last night.


RE: WTF Defense (Photo Evidence) - Crazier - 03-14-2014 02:44 PM

If I were Pastner, I would tell big Dom that he can't do anything basketball related til he drops 50lbs. He moves slower than honey during winter.


RE: WTF Defense (Photo Evidence) - Ramen_Tiger - 03-14-2014 02:55 PM

Are we that much undiscipline on defense? I am flipping through games and UT's defense is intense but discipline. How is Cuonzo Martin's defensive scheme that much better than Pastner's? I watched Texas and the they have a better defensive scheme with no names