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California college student teaches school $50,000 lesson on Constitution - SumOfAllFears - 02-25-2014 10:39 PM

California college student teaches school $50,000 lesson on Constitution



Quote:A California college student who was blocked last year from handing out copies of the Constitution gave his school a lesson in civics and the law, winning a $50,000 settlement and an agreement to revise its speech codes.

Robert Van Tuinen, 26, settled with Modesto Junior College just five months after his run-in with school officials on Sept. 17 – National Constitution Day. Van Tuinen said he’s more excited about getting the school to revise its speech codes, which previously confined the First Amendment to a small area students had to sign up to use.

“They were maintaining an unconstitutional speech code, and now any of my fellow students can go out and exercise their right to free speech,” Van Tuinen, an Army veteran who grew up in Modesto and now studies photography, told FoxNews.com.

Back in September, FoxNews.com aired the video Van Tuinen took of his confrontation with school officials.

In the video, Van Tuinen is confronted by an unidentified campus police officer within minutes of passing out the pamphlets. When he protests, he is told “there are rules.”

“But do you know what this is?” he asks. “What are the rules? Why are the rules tied to my free speech?”

Van Tuinen explains that he wants to start an organization called Young Americans for Liberty.

“That’s fine, but if you’re going to start an organization like that you have to go through the rigamarole,” the police officer tells him.

"It was a tense situation," Van Tuinen told FoxNews.com. "To be told I can't do something as basic as handing out the Constitution was frustrating."

Eventually, the police officer escorts Van Tuinen into an administrative office, where an unidentified woman shows him a binder with rules she says govern free speech on campus. She explains that there is a designated place “in front of the student center, in that little cement area,” where free expression is allowed, but then notes that two people are already using it.

The episode caught the attention of the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education, which, together with a Washington law firm, took his case to federal court in the Eastern District of California. But by then, school officials had already started backpedaling.

"In the case of the YouTube video, it does not appear that the student was disrupting the orderly operations of the college and therefore we are looking into the incident," Modesto Junior College Marketing and Public Relations officer Linda Hoile told FoxNews.com at the time.

On Monday, the school settled the case by agreeing to revise its policies to allow free speech in open areas across campus and pay Van Tuinen $50,000. Although much of it will go to legal fees, Van Tuinen said he'll happily use what's left to to pay off other bills.

“FIRE is very pleased that Robert Van Tuinen and Modesto Junior College have reached this settlement — and that Modesto Junior College students will now be able to exercise their First Amendment rights across campus,” said FIRE President Greg Lukianoff.



RE: California college student teaches school $50,000 lesson on Constitution - maximus - 02-25-2014 10:45 PM

Awesome

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RE: California college student teaches school $50,000 lesson on Constitution - Kronke - 02-26-2014 12:12 AM

"Free speech area"

California is such a joke.


RE: California college student teaches school $50,000 lesson on Constitution - john01992 - 02-26-2014 01:02 AM

(02-26-2014 12:12 AM)Kronke Wrote:  "Free speech area"

California is such a joke.

free speech zones on college campuses are not limited to just cali.
texas tech
UNC greensboro
marquette

have all had major court cases over them


RE: California college student teaches school $50,000 lesson on Constitution - Fitbud - 02-26-2014 01:07 AM

(02-25-2014 10:39 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  California college student teaches school $50,000 lesson on Constitution



Quote:A California college student who was blocked last year from handing out copies of the Constitution gave his school a lesson in civics and the law, winning a $50,000 settlement and an agreement to revise its speech codes.

Robert Van Tuinen, 26, settled with Modesto Junior College just five months after his run-in with school officials on Sept. 17 – National Constitution Day. Van Tuinen said he’s more excited about getting the school to revise its speech codes, which previously confined the First Amendment to a small area students had to sign up to use.

“They were maintaining an unconstitutional speech code, and now any of my fellow students can go out and exercise their right to free speech,” Van Tuinen, an Army veteran who grew up in Modesto and now studies photography, told FoxNews.com.

Back in September, FoxNews.com aired the video Van Tuinen took of his confrontation with school officials.

In the video, Van Tuinen is confronted by an unidentified campus police officer within minutes of passing out the pamphlets. When he protests, he is told “there are rules.”

“But do you know what this is?” he asks. “What are the rules? Why are the rules tied to my free speech?”

Van Tuinen explains that he wants to start an organization called Young Americans for Liberty.

“That’s fine, but if you’re going to start an organization like that you have to go through the rigamarole,” the police officer tells him.

"It was a tense situation," Van Tuinen told FoxNews.com. "To be told I can't do something as basic as handing out the Constitution was frustrating."

Eventually, the police officer escorts Van Tuinen into an administrative office, where an unidentified woman shows him a binder with rules she says govern free speech on campus. She explains that there is a designated place “in front of the student center, in that little cement area,” where free expression is allowed, but then notes that two people are already using it.

The episode caught the attention of the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education, which, together with a Washington law firm, took his case to federal court in the Eastern District of California. But by then, school officials had already started backpedaling.

"In the case of the YouTube video, it does not appear that the student was disrupting the orderly operations of the college and therefore we are looking into the incident," Modesto Junior College Marketing and Public Relations officer Linda Hoile told FoxNews.com at the time.

On Monday, the school settled the case by agreeing to revise its policies to allow free speech in open areas across campus and pay Van Tuinen $50,000. Although much of it will go to legal fees, Van Tuinen said he'll happily use what's left to to pay off other bills.

“FIRE is very pleased that Robert Van Tuinen and Modesto Junior College have reached this settlement — and that Modesto Junior College students will now be able to exercise their First Amendment rights across campus,” said FIRE President Greg Lukianoff.

Awesome


RE: California college student teaches school $50,000 lesson on Constitution - ncbeta - 02-26-2014 01:37 AM

Reminds of those "Photography is not a crime" videos.


RE: California college student teaches school $50,000 lesson on Constitution - smn1256 - 02-26-2014 02:07 AM

Agree with the school changing its rules. Agree with the school paying the kid's legal fees. Disagree with the school giving any additional money other than legal fees; no money should have gone into the kid's pocket.

BTW, where was the ACLU in all this? They should have been all over this from day one, I mean, isn't the Constitution the very thing they exist to protect?


RE: California college student teaches school $50,000 lesson on Constitution - DrTorch - 02-26-2014 08:45 AM

FIRE is a great organization.


RE: California college student teaches school $50,000 lesson on Constitution - Machiavelli - 02-26-2014 08:47 AM

A great question SMN. You would think the ACLU would be all over this.


RE: California college student teaches school $50,000 lesson on Constitution - QuestionSocratic - 02-26-2014 09:02 AM

(02-26-2014 08:47 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  A great question SMN. You would think the ACLU would be all over this.

I gained a great deal of respect for the ACLU during the Skokie parades but they have been co-opted by the far left and is now selective in its outrage.


RE: California college student teaches school $50,000 lesson on Constitution - VA49er - 02-26-2014 09:03 AM

What the heck is a "Free Speech Zone"?


RE: California college student teaches school $50,000 lesson on Constitution - SumOfAllFears - 02-26-2014 09:11 AM

(02-26-2014 09:03 AM)VA49er Wrote:  What the heck is a "Free Speech Zone"?

I'm guessing it is like a place in Russia or China where people can gather and say whatever they want critical of the gov't. No?


RE: California college student teaches school $50,000 lesson on Constitution - VA49er - 02-26-2014 09:14 AM

(02-26-2014 09:11 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  
(02-26-2014 09:03 AM)VA49er Wrote:  What the heck is a "Free Speech Zone"?

I'm guessing it is like a place in Russia or China where people can gather and say whatever they want critical of the gov't. No?

But this is the US. Free speech is supposed to be everywhere, not just some random spot deemed a "Free Speech Zone". I've heard of free expression tunnels/walls, etc on college campuses before but not a free speech zone.


RE: California college student teaches school $50,000 lesson on Constitution - Smaug - 02-26-2014 09:24 AM

(02-26-2014 01:02 AM)john01992 Wrote:  
(02-26-2014 12:12 AM)Kronke Wrote:  "Free speech area"

California is such a joke.

free speech zones on college campuses are not limited to just cali.
texas tech
UNC greensboro
marquette

have all had major court cases over them

Yes, and they're absurd there, too.


RE: California college student teaches school $50,000 lesson on Constitution - SumOfAllFears - 02-26-2014 09:26 AM

(02-26-2014 09:14 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(02-26-2014 09:11 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  
(02-26-2014 09:03 AM)VA49er Wrote:  What the heck is a "Free Speech Zone"?

I'm guessing it is like a place in Russia or China where people can gather and say whatever they want critical of the gov't. No?

But this is the US. Free speech is supposed to be everywhere, not just some random spot deemed a "Free Speech Zone". I've heard of free expression tunnels/walls, etc on college campuses before but not a free speech zone.

You are talking about the area designated by liberal university officials behind the building, next to the delivery entrance by the dumpster, designed to quell discontent with official decisions? That zone?


RE: California college student teaches school $50,000 lesson on Constitution - LSU04_08 - 02-26-2014 09:26 AM

(02-26-2014 09:14 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(02-26-2014 09:11 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  
(02-26-2014 09:03 AM)VA49er Wrote:  What the heck is a "Free Speech Zone"?

I'm guessing it is like a place in Russia or China where people can gather and say whatever they want critical of the gov't. No?

But this is the US. Free speech is supposed to be everywhere, not just some random spot deemed a "Free Speech Zone". I've heard of free expression tunnels/walls, etc on college campuses before but not a free speech zone.

Welcome to Shitifornia where the demoshits are overflowing like a clogged septic tank...


RE: California college student teaches school $50,000 lesson on Constitution - LSU04_08 - 02-26-2014 09:27 AM

(02-26-2014 09:26 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  
(02-26-2014 09:14 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(02-26-2014 09:11 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  
(02-26-2014 09:03 AM)VA49er Wrote:  What the heck is a "Free Speech Zone"?

I'm guessing it is like a place in Russia or China where people can gather and say whatever they want critical of the gov't. No?

But this is the US. Free speech is supposed to be everywhere, not just some random spot deemed a "Free Speech Zone". I've heard of free expression tunnels/walls, etc on college campuses before but not a free speech zone.

You are talking about the area designated by liberal university officials behind the building, next to the delivery entrance by the dumpster, designed to quell discontent with official decisions? That zone?

03-yes


RE: California college student teaches school $50,000 lesson on Constitution - HeartOfDixie - 02-26-2014 09:41 AM

I have to admit, if I were a college kid I'd care more about the $50k.


RE: California college student teaches school $50,000 lesson on Constitution - Machiavelli - 02-26-2014 09:47 AM

The ACLU helped Hush Bimbaugh so something may not be all it's cracked up to be here. The ACLU should be non partisan. As I said they helped out Mr. Oxycotin in a big way. If they were partisan then it would not have shaked out that way. SMN has a good question. I would be interested in why they didn't dip their toe into the water.


RE: California college student teaches school $50,000 lesson on Constitution - LSU04_08 - 02-26-2014 09:51 AM

(02-26-2014 09:47 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  The ACLU helped Hush Bimbaugh so something may not be all it's cracked up to be here. The ACLU should be non partisan. As I said they helped out Mr. Oxycotin in a big way. If they were partisan then it would not have shaked out that way. SMN has a good question. I would be interested in why they didn't dip their toe into the water.

I wish UMF08 could see this.