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Big 12 (16) Northern Illinois and Missouri State to The Big 12 makes more sense! - Wilkie01 - 01-24-2014 07:31 AM
Connecticut
West Virginia
East Carolina
Central Florida
Cincinnati
Northern Illinois
Iowa State
Missouri State
Kansas
Kansas State
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Texas
Texas Tech
Baylor
TCU
RE: Big 12 (16) Northern Illinois and Missouri State to The Big 12 makes more sense! - Maize - 01-24-2014 07:42 AM
(01-24-2014 07:31 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote: Connecticut
West Virginia
East Carolina
Central Florida
Cincinnati
Northern Illinois
Iowa State
Missouri State
Kansas
Kansas State
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Texas
Texas Tech
Baylor
TCU
If those schools are in the Big XII that tells me that Oklahoma and Texas are GONE!!!!
RE: Big 12 (16) Northern Illinois and Missouri State to The Big 12 makes more sense! - CardFan1 - 01-24-2014 07:58 AM
Where does USF go?
RE: Big 12 (16) Northern Illinois and Missouri State to The Big 12 makes more sense! - HuskyU - 01-24-2014 08:00 AM
(01-24-2014 07:42 AM)Maize Wrote:(01-24-2014 07:31 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote: Connecticut
West Virginia
East Carolina
Central Florida
Cincinnati
Northern Illinois
Iowa State
Missouri State
Kansas
Kansas State
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Texas
Texas Tech
Baylor
TCU
If those schools are in the Big XII that tells me that Oklahoma and Texas are GONE!!!!
Agreed.
RE: Big 12 (16) Northern Illinois and Missouri State to The Big 12 makes more sense! - goofus - 01-24-2014 08:25 AM
It is time for the big 12 to embrace its roots of central time zone state universities.
schools that are modeled after oklahoma state, kansas state, and Iowa state.
Candidates are Missouri State, Northern Illinois, Memphis, Arkansas State, La Tech, Southern Miss.
But of course none of those programs are ready to be a P5 program now, but maybe some day they will, especially if Texas leaves.
so if those schools are the ultimate goal, how do you start building towards that today.
the answer is stay away from schools like UConn and UCF that dont fit into the "Big Central" footprint.
also while west Virginia does not fit, the big 12 cant afford to lose WV right now, so the answer is to build a bridge to WV, not another island. So it might make sense to add Cincy even though Cincy does not fit either, but at least Cincy builds a bridge.
So in conclusion. This shou be the plan.
Now - Add Memphis and Cincy
in 5 years - add Arky State and Mo. State and change name to "Big Central"
In 10 years - add La Tech and NIU
Big Central 2025
WV, Cincy, Memphis, NIU, Iowa State, Kansas St, Kansas, Mo. ST
Texas, TT, Baylor, TCU, Oklahoma, OSU, Arky ST., La Tech,
RE: Big 12 (16) Northern Illinois and Missouri State to The Big 12 makes more sense! - HuskieJohn - 01-24-2014 10:22 AM
Our new AD has already talked with people within the B12 as to what NIU needs to improve to be considered for membership. He is working tirelessly on the recommendations. His biggest challenge will be to get more of the 180k living alums in the Chicago land area involved...currently only about 30k are involved at all.
RE: Big 12 (16) Northern Illinois and Missouri State to The Big 12 makes more sense! - Wilkie01 - 01-24-2014 10:24 AM
(01-24-2014 10:22 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote: Our new AD has already talked with people within the B12 as to what NIU needs to improve to be considered for membership. He is working tirelessly on the recommendations. His biggest challenge will be to get more of the 180k living alums in the Chicago land area involved...currently only about 30k are involved at all.
Good luck.
RE: Big 12 (16) Northern Illinois and Missouri State to The Big 12 makes more sense! - bigblueblindness - 01-24-2014 10:25 AM
(01-24-2014 07:42 AM)Maize Wrote:(01-24-2014 07:31 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote: Connecticut
West Virginia
East Carolina
Central Florida
Cincinnati
Northern Illinois
Iowa State
Missouri State
Kansas
Kansas State
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Texas
Texas Tech
Baylor
TCU
If those schools are in the Big XII that tells me that Oklahoma and Texas are GONE!!!!
That top division should be called the Missouri Valley Conference, and the bottom should be called the Big 12 (or Big 8 if they want to correct the error).
RE: Big 12 (16) Northern Illinois and Missouri State to The Big 12 makes more sense! - chiefsfan - 01-24-2014 10:56 AM
(01-24-2014 10:22 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote: Our new AD has already talked with people within the B12 as to what NIU needs to improve to be considered for membership. He is working tirelessly on the recommendations. His biggest challenge will be to get more of the 180k living alums in the Chicago land area involved...currently only about 30k are involved at all.
Yeah our AD did something similar. I didn't ask if he asked Texas though since they really run the Big 12.
RE: Big 12 (16) Northern Illinois and Missouri State to The Big 12 makes more sense! - HuskieTap22 - 01-24-2014 01:28 PM
(01-24-2014 10:22 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote: Our new AD has already talked with people within the B12 as to what NIU needs to improve to be considered for membership. He is working tirelessly on the recommendations. His biggest challenge will be to get more of the 180k living alums in the Chicago land area involved...currently only about 30k are involved at all.
Agreed. The key to any upward movement for NIU will be tapping the alumni base in Chicago to get more involved and help the school grow its brand. The Chicagoland area has over 9 million people and there are a lot of alum. A small bit of that potential was realized the last few seasons with increased coverage by the Chicago media outlets, respectable TV ratings, and higher attendance. The key now will be converting some of those people that got reengaged with the recent football success to commit to the school long term. The potential clearly exists though for continued sustainable growth.
RE: Big 12 (16) Northern Illinois and Missouri State to The Big 12 makes more sense! - jml2010 - 01-24-2014 01:42 PM
(01-24-2014 07:31 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote: Connecticut
West Virginia
East Carolina
Central Florida
Cincinnati
Northern Illinois
Iowa State
Missouri State
Kansas
Kansas State
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Texas
Texas Tech
Baylor
TCU
Solid additions. TV ratings/revenue will be through the roof. I wonder why someone hasn't already made this happen.
RE: Big 12 (16) Northern Illinois and Missouri State to The Big 12 makes more sense! - Rube Dali - 01-24-2014 01:45 PM
(01-24-2014 07:31 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote: Connecticut
West Virginia
East Carolina
Central Florida
Cincinnati
Northern Illinois
Iowa State
Missouri State
Kansas
Kansas State
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Texas
Texas Tech
Baylor
TCU
The B1G and the SEC will destroy the Big 12 before this alignment ever comes to pass.
RE: Big 12 (16) Northern Illinois and Missouri State to The Big 12 makes more sense! - jml2010 - 01-24-2014 01:52 PM
(01-24-2014 01:45 PM)Rube Dali Wrote:(01-24-2014 07:31 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote: Connecticut
West Virginia
East Carolina
Central Florida
Cincinnati
Northern Illinois
Iowa State
Missouri State
Kansas
Kansas State
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Texas
Texas Tech
Baylor
TCU
The PAC , B1G and the SEC will destroy the Big 12 before this alignment ever comes to pass.
FIFY
RE: Big 12 (16) Northern Illinois and Missouri State to The Big 12 makes more sense! - MSUBear42 - 01-24-2014 01:55 PM
(01-24-2014 07:31 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote: Connecticut
West Virginia
East Carolina
Central Florida
Cincinnati
Northern Illinois
Iowa State
Missouri State
Kansas
Kansas State
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Texas
Texas Tech
Baylor
TCU
You're my hero.
RE: Big 12 (16) Northern Illinois and Missouri State to The Big 12 makes more sense! - NIU007 - 01-24-2014 01:58 PM
Wow, ha ha. We're dreaming big at least.
RE: Big 12 (16) Northern Illinois and Missouri State to The Big 12 makes more sense! - Frank the Tank - 01-24-2014 02:08 PM
I'm trying to understand why any power conference would add a school that hasn't played a down of FBS football. You already see the Sun Belt and MAC having consternation about doing that. If the Big 12 wanted to add population for the sake of population, they might as well go after schools like Colorado State, Tulane and Memphis that have established FBS programs.
RE: Big 12 (16) Northern Illinois and Missouri State to The Big 12 makes more sense! - ncbeta - 01-24-2014 02:38 PM
Texas if someone even proposed this at a B12 meeting:
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If they really want to create an eastern Division I'd say double down on the FL schools, throw us in there, Cincy, Uconn and ODU... call it a day.
ECU, USF, UCF, UConn, Cincy and ODU football would absolutely explode in their regions if they were associated with the other B12 schools. You'd most likely see all of these schools averaging 50k+ in 6-7 years in that kind of conference.
RE: Big 12 (16) Northern Illinois and Missouri State to The Big 12 makes more sense! - Tallgrass - 01-24-2014 02:44 PM
The B12 has made its 10 team bed; now it must sleep in it. Either the 10 team model succeeds...or the conference blows up. Its either A or B. I don't see any alternative Plan C to add teams in the cards.
RE: Big 12 (16) Northern Illinois and Missouri State to The Big 12 makes more sense! - Frog in the Kitchen Sink - 01-24-2014 02:55 PM
(01-24-2014 02:44 PM)Tallgrass Wrote: The B12 has made its 10 team bed; now it must sleep in it. Either the 10 team model succeeds...or the conference blows up. Its either A or B. I don't see any alternative Plan C to add teams in the cards.
Totally agree here. Sure if it blows up, the leftover teams will have to do something- maybe the Big 12 lives on in name and expands then. But there is no point in guessing what a 12+ Big 12 will look like with the likes of UT, OU, KU, etc. Those teams will be gone in that scenario. If the 10 team Big 12 can maintain comparable revenues (like it has so far), then 10 is where it will be in the future.
RE: Big 12 (16) Northern Illinois and Missouri State to The Big 12 makes more sense! - HeartOfDixie - 01-24-2014 03:05 PM
No way.
Those two programs are, sorry to say and in no way trying to be insulting, way too small for serious consideration.