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Ranking The Top Five Non-AQ Schools - MG61 - 12-29-2013 03:28 PM
Thread from the MWC board. Your thoughts ?
http://www.mwcboard.com/index.php?showtopic=51964&page=1
RE: Ranking The Top Five Non-AQ Schools - ECMAN79 - 12-29-2013 03:38 PM
tricky......but we appreciate the consideration by those Mountain West fans.......
RE: Ranking The Top Five Non-AQ Schools - Cnelson203 - 12-29-2013 03:41 PM
I started to provide an opinion several times, but was stymied by actual results that precluded me from including any particular school. There are very good arguments why anyone of 10 schools could be considered, and I'm opting out. Nothing good can come from this thread...although it might be interesting to watch! I will say I wasn't surprised that the MWC board was Western-centric in their assumptions, to answer your question.
RE: Ranking The Top Five Non-AQ Schools - BamaScorpio69 - 12-29-2013 03:56 PM
(12-29-2013 03:28 PM)MG61 Wrote: Thread from the MWC board. Your thoughts ?
http://www.mwcboard.com/index.php?showtopic=51964&page=1
It is the MWCBoard......lol
RE: Ranking The Top Five Non-AQ Schools - MDH - 12-29-2013 07:42 PM
Fresno, Utah St, BGSU, Rice and Marshall
RE: Ranking The Top Five Non-AQ Schools - keebler645 - 12-29-2013 08:31 PM
Going in to Bowl Season, I would have had:
1. Fresno
2. NIU
3. BGSU
4. Rice
5. Marshall
6. BYU
7. East Carolina
8. Ball State
9. Utah State
10. North Texas
After Bowl Season (assuming wins by Rice, Ball State, and North Texas):
1. Rice
2. Fresno
3. Marshall
4. Utah State
5. Northern Illinois
6. East Carolina
7. Ball State
8. North Texas
9. Bowling Green
10. MT/Navy winner
I'd drop Rice down to around 6 with a loss while Ball State or North Texas losses drop them out completely and move up BYU or UTSA.
RE: Ranking The Top Five Non-AQ Schools - MDH - 12-29-2013 09:00 PM
(12-29-2013 08:31 PM)keebler645 Wrote: Going in to Bowl Season, I would have had:
1. Fresno
2. NIU
3. BGSU
4. Rice
5. Marshall
6. BYU
7. East Carolina
8. Ball State
9. Utah State
10. North Texas
After Bowl Season (assuming wins by Rice, Ball State, and North Texas):
1. Rice
2. Fresno
3. Marshall
4. Utah State
5. Northern Illinois
6. East Carolina
7. Ball State
8. North Texas
9. Bowling Green
10. MT/Navy winner
I'd drop Rice down to around 6 with a loss while Ball State or North Texas losses drop them out completely and move up BYU or UTSA.
Pretty on point, Utah St deserves a lot of credit for what they've done this year after Keaton went down and with a first year coach.
RE: Ranking The Top Five Non-AQ Schools - Volkmar - 12-30-2013 01:34 PM
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RE: Ranking The Top Five Non-AQ Schools - r2pirate - 12-31-2013 05:34 PM
(12-29-2013 03:38 PM)ECMAN79 Wrote: tricky......but we appreciate the consideration by those Mountain West fans.......
ECU has a program and not a one year wonder ......our history backs it up!
RE: Ranking The Top Five Non-AQ Schools - banker - 12-31-2013 06:27 PM
(12-31-2013 05:34 PM)r2pirate Wrote:(12-29-2013 03:38 PM)ECMAN79 Wrote: tricky......but we appreciate the consideration by those Mountain West fans.......
ECU has a program and not a one year wonder ......our history backs it up!
You really believe that don't you? ECU has had a losing record 6 of the last 12 years. You have only won 52% of your games all time. You have finished ranked 3 times in your history, most recently was 18 years ago. You're 3-7 in bowl games this century. You have 2 10 or more win seasons in your history.
You don't have anymore of a program than a couple dozen other mid-majors. You have a fan base that attends games well, that's your only real distinction.
RE: Ranking The Top Five Non-AQ Schools - Cnelson203 - 12-31-2013 06:30 PM
Here we go again!
RE: Ranking The Top Five Non-AQ Schools - baruna falls - 12-31-2013 06:41 PM
(12-31-2013 06:27 PM)banker Wrote:We have over a 60 percent winning percentage.(12-31-2013 05:34 PM)r2pirate Wrote:(12-29-2013 03:38 PM)ECMAN79 Wrote: tricky......but we appreciate the consideration by those Mountain West fans.......
ECU has a program and not a one year wonder ......our history backs it up!
You really believe that don't you? ECU has had a losing record 6 of the last 12 years. You have only won 52% of your games all time. You have finished ranked 3 times in your history, most recently was 18 years ago. You're 3-7 in bowl games this century. You have 2 10 or more win seasons in your history.
You don't have anymore of a program than a couple dozen other mid-majors. You have a fan base that attends games well, that's your only real distinction.
RE: Ranking The Top Five Non-AQ Schools - r2pirate - 12-31-2013 07:14 PM
(12-31-2013 06:41 PM)baruna falls Wrote:(12-31-2013 06:27 PM)banker Wrote:We have over a 60 percent winning percentage.(12-31-2013 05:34 PM)r2pirate Wrote:(12-29-2013 03:38 PM)ECMAN79 Wrote: tricky......but we appreciate the consideration by those Mountain West fans.......
ECU has a program and not a one year wonder ......our history backs it up!
You really believe that don't you? ECU has had a losing record 6 of the last 12 years. You have only won 52% of your games all time. You have finished ranked 3 times in your history, most recently was 18 years ago. You're 3-7 in bowl games this century. You have 2 10 or more win seasons in your history.
You don't have anymore of a program than a couple dozen other mid-majors. You have a fan base that attends games well, that's your only real distinction.
Also a 67% winning record (10-5) against banker, too!
RE: Ranking The Top Five Non-AQ Schools - banker - 12-31-2013 09:11 PM
(12-31-2013 06:41 PM)baruna falls Wrote:(12-31-2013 06:27 PM)banker Wrote:We have over a 60 percent winning percentage.(12-31-2013 05:34 PM)r2pirate Wrote:(12-29-2013 03:38 PM)ECMAN79 Wrote: tricky......but we appreciate the consideration by those Mountain West fans.......
ECU has a program and not a one year wonder ......our history backs it up!
You really believe that don't you? ECU has had a losing record 6 of the last 12 years. You have only won 52% of your games all time. You have finished ranked 3 times in your history, most recently was 18 years ago. You're 3-7 in bowl games this century. You have 2 10 or more win seasons in your history.
You don't have anymore of a program than a couple dozen other mid-majors. You have a fan base that attends games well, that's your only real distinction.
http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/conferenceusa/east_carolina/yearly_totals.php
No, you don't.
RE: Ranking The Top Five Non-AQ Schools - NTTHOR - 12-31-2013 10:13 PM
oooooooo....facts kick ass!
RE: Ranking The Top Five Non-AQ Schools - baruna falls - 12-31-2013 10:33 PM
(12-31-2013 09:11 PM)banker Wrote:okay you got me go back to the 1930's. Either way, we have owned your team.(12-31-2013 06:41 PM)baruna falls Wrote:(12-31-2013 06:27 PM)banker Wrote:We have over a 60 percent winning percentage.(12-31-2013 05:34 PM)r2pirate Wrote:(12-29-2013 03:38 PM)ECMAN79 Wrote: tricky......but we appreciate the consideration by those Mountain West fans.......
ECU has a program and not a one year wonder ......our history backs it up!
You really believe that don't you? ECU has had a losing record 6 of the last 12 years. You have only won 52% of your games all time. You have finished ranked 3 times in your history, most recently was 18 years ago. You're 3-7 in bowl games this century. You have 2 10 or more win seasons in your history.
You don't have anymore of a program than a couple dozen other mid-majors. You have a fan base that attends games well, that's your only real distinction.
http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/conferenceusa/east_carolina/yearly_totals.php
No, you don't.
RE: Ranking The Top Five Non-AQ Schools - banker - 12-31-2013 11:42 PM
So you don't count all the games when you calculate "all time winning percentage"?
Oh, and this wasn't an ECU Marshall thing. This was about r2's claim that you had some type of superior program compared to other non AQ schools. You are a top 25 non AQ, but so are 24 other schools.
RE: Ranking The Top Five Non-AQ Schools - IceJus10 - 01-01-2014 01:16 AM
well Rice got killed
RE: Ranking The Top Five Non-AQ Schools - Hank Rearden - 01-01-2014 10:28 AM
(12-31-2013 10:33 PM)baruna falls Wrote:(12-31-2013 09:11 PM)banker Wrote:okay you got me go back to the 1930's. Either way, we have owned your team.(12-31-2013 06:41 PM)baruna falls Wrote:(12-31-2013 06:27 PM)banker Wrote:We have over a 60 percent winning percentage.(12-31-2013 05:34 PM)r2pirate Wrote: ECU has a program and not a one year wonder ......our history backs it up!
You really believe that don't you? ECU has had a losing record 6 of the last 12 years. You have only won 52% of your games all time. You have finished ranked 3 times in your history, most recently was 18 years ago. You're 3-7 in bowl games this century. You have 2 10 or more win seasons in your history.
You don't have anymore of a program than a couple dozen other mid-majors. You have a fan base that attends games well, that's your only real distinction.
http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/conferenceusa/east_carolina/yearly_totals.php
No, you don't.
According to your buddy SJ, head-to-head doesn't count. It's your body of work that counts. And Marshall's body of work (conference championships, years ranked in top 25, Heisman finalists, bowl wins, marquee players, etc) is much better than ECU's.
Good luck in the AAC. I'm sure you guys will be mediocre there, too.
RE: Ranking The Top Five Non-AQ Schools - TheBigEastSucks - 01-01-2014 10:58 AM
(01-01-2014 10:28 AM)Hank Rearden Wrote:(12-31-2013 10:33 PM)baruna falls Wrote:(12-31-2013 09:11 PM)banker Wrote:okay you got me go back to the 1930's. Either way, we have owned your team.(12-31-2013 06:41 PM)baruna falls Wrote:(12-31-2013 06:27 PM)banker Wrote: You really believe that don't you? ECU has had a losing record 6 of the last 12 years. You have only won 52% of your games all time. You have finished ranked 3 times in your history, most recently was 18 years ago. You're 3-7 in bowl games this century. You have 2 10 or more win seasons in your history.We have over a 60 percent winning percentage.
You don't have anymore of a program than a couple dozen other mid-majors. You have a fan base that attends games well, that's your only real distinction.
http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/conferenceusa/east_carolina/yearly_totals.php
No, you don't.
According to your buddy SJ, head-to-head doesn't count. It's your body of work that counts. And Marshall's body of work (conference championships, years ranked in top 25, Heisman finalists, bowl wins, marquee players, etc) is much better than ECU's.
Good luck in the AAC. I'm sure you guys will be mediocre there, too.
Win one, just one cusa championship. No seriously