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- RIVER CITY PIRATE - 04-20-2004 12:24 PM

What would the members of the SEC think about the addition of East Carolina University into your conference? I beleive ECU is comparable to the instituions in the SEC. ECU is a football school with a strong baseball tradition, like most of the schools in the league. Our basketball program is on the rise and with an extra boost will become competetive at the highest level. And the SEC has no market prescence in North Carolina which would be a great addition to a southern conference. Just some thoughts and want your opinions. Wouldn't it be nice for the SEC to take it to the backyard of the ACC? They sem to want to go to yours. I for one would love to see ECU in the SEC and witht hat I feel that ECU will once again become the dominant football school in North Carolina. What a recruting edge ECU would have.


- GDawgs88 - 04-23-2004 09:51 PM

No offense, you seem like a nice guy...but come on. There's no way that would happen.


- msudawgs64 - 04-24-2004 02:01 AM

well I don't think we will be expanding any time soon but for this discussion, let's say the SEC did decide to expand. Ok so you are going with ECU, fair enough, I will say off the bat that I don't know that much about them but I could do some research on the major sports and give you a more honest answer, but who would you recommend that we add with ECU? I mean we would want to stay at an even number for scheduling, unlike the Big 10 who apparently can't count. 03-lol Keep in mind that if one team was ECU, then we would probably want to go with someone closer to the Mississippi River or at west of it for geographic layout, ECU would go to the SEC East, but who would you think would be the best fit for the West. I know the chances of this happening are pretty slim to none but it still makes for an interesting topic nonetheless.


- GrayBeard - 04-26-2004 11:46 AM

msudawgs64 Wrote:well I don't think we will be expanding any time soon but for this discussion, let's say the SEC did decide to expand. Ok so you are going with ECU, fair enough, I will say off the bat that I don't know that much about them but I could do some research on the major sports and give you a more honest answer, but who would you recommend that we add with ECU? I mean we would want to stay at an even number for scheduling, unlike the Big 10 who apparently can't count. 03-lol Keep in mind that if one team was ECU, then we would probably want to go with someone closer to the Mississippi River or at west of it for geographic layout, ECU would go to the SEC East, but who would you think would be the best fit for the West. I know the chances of this happening are pretty slim to none but it still makes for an interesting topic nonetheless.
You would have to go with either USM or Memphis...Yeah, I know, there are several schools already present in the SEC that would fight to the death to keep these guys out.


- msudawgs64 - 04-26-2004 08:13 PM

GrayBeard Wrote:
msudawgs64 Wrote:well I don't think we will be expanding any time soon but for this discussion, let's say the SEC did decide to expand.  Ok so you are going with ECU, fair enough, I will say off the bat that I don't know that much about them but I could do some research on the major sports and give you a more honest answer, but who would you recommend that we add with ECU?  I mean we would want to stay at an even number for scheduling, unlike the Big 10 who apparently can't count. 03-lol  Keep in mind that if one team was ECU, then we would probably want to go with someone closer to the Mississippi River or at west of it for geographic layout, ECU would go to the SEC East, but who would you think would be the best fit for the West.  I know the chances of this happening are pretty slim to none but it still makes for an interesting topic nonetheless.
You would have to go with either USM or Memphis...Yeah, I know, there are several schools already present in the SEC that would fight to the death to keep these guys out.
03-lol I agree and believe it or not, I would think the ones doing the most crowing would be schools not from the states of MS or TN, though we would have our share. USM or Memphis does make sense geographically for sure.


- SECInsider - 04-27-2004 12:25 PM

First let me say thank you. I can always bet on ECU. Best team to pick with the spread.

Second, why would the SEC consider ECU? Obvious to us a Clemson, FSU or even USM would make more sense. I would even consider trying to convince a Texas team like Texas or Houston.

Third, the SEC has it's lower tier sowed up in every sport. In football ECU may be able to beat UK or Vandy.... maybe pull an upset on a few of the down years for the rest. It just wouldn't be good for any instituion involved.


- MaroonFrog - 04-28-2004 02:31 PM

East Carolina lobbying to get out of CUSA? Interesting...


- DawgNBama - 05-06-2004 01:42 PM

Maroon Frog, you and I both know that TCU has been lobbying for ages to get into the Big XII. :rolleyes: And if the Big XII gave TCU an invite right now, TCU would leave the MWC in a heartbeat.


- DawgNBama - 05-06-2004 02:28 PM

My intense hatred for many of the former members of the SWC notwithstanding ( here's SEC vs SWC for ya: 03-nutkick take that arrogant Tejas teams!!!), I would like to get back on the topic of East Carolina joining the SEC.

What type of a following does ECU have in North Carolina? The last time the SEC expanded, it took in two programs with pretty big fan followings (see Arkansas and South Carolina). What type of high school football talent does North Carolina have? (i.e. Are Chris Leaks the exception or the rule in NC?) I don't know if this right or wrong, but I always got the impression that the state of North Carolina is a lot like the state of Indiana: big time basketball state. Should North Carolina become more of a "football state," and East Carolina have like 70,000 seat stadium with a huge fan following, I would be pushing heavily for ECU's admission to the SEC. BTW, I'd have these same reservations about Louisville if they were wanting SEC membership too or Indiana from the Big Ten. I have no doubt that ECU could compete with some of the SEC schools, but I do have doubts about whether or not ECU could compete with all of the SEC schools.


- RIVER CITY PIRATE - 05-07-2004 10:44 AM

Dawg,

I do appreciate your open mindness in regards to East Carolina University. Let me respond to your worries. First of all, ECU has been a football school in the middle of ACC territory. Yes, we have had a couple of bad years but we have owned the ACC over the last decade in football. ECU has a strong following of loyal alumni and fans throughout the stae of NC. ECU, without question, is recognized throughout college sports for its fan base. The SEC is the push that could put East Carolina over the top. We have been at a hurdle for awhile and that push would be all we need. In a 1-11 season we had 55,000 fans in Dowdy-Ficklen Stadium supporting our Pirates. The fan base is there and would be identical to many of the SEC fans and schools. North Carolina has alot of football talent. Chris Leak has been an awesome QB since his days in Charlotte but there our others like him in NC. East Carolina, before the BCS, was becoming the football powerhouse in the Carolinas, both North and South. We now have a recruiting disadvantage against even a small school like Wake Forest because they are in a BCS conference and we are not. Before we could get those recruits easily. We were the premier football program in the state of NC and could easily return to that point if the playing field wee level, which it is not currently. I think SEC fans would come to enjoy the spirit and atmosphere of ECU and our fans and I think you would find us to be a great addition to your conference. The ACC is a basketball conference historically and the SEC is a football conference historically, which fits our history. I also think you would find ECU's baseball program to be a great addition to your conference. We are currently ranked #5 in the nation and with the strong baseball atmosphere in the SEC, ECU would fit in nicely. On basketball, we are building our program from the bottom up. Since joining CUSA, Coach Bill Herrion has breathed new life into our basketball program. We have a ways to go there but we can compete on any given night. Just ask Rick Pitino or Bob Huggins. Minges Coliseum on the campus of East Carolina University has become a great atmosphere for college basketball. As far as facilities go, we have great facilities. We have Dowdy Fickeln stadium which can now seat 55,000 and can be easily renovated to add another 15,000. (Which plans are in the making). We are now building a state of the art baseball facility. Minges Coliseum is a great arena for college hoops. And two years ago we opened the Murphy strength and conditioning center for the training of our student athletes. This facility is one of the best in the nation. ECU has been doing the work we just need a break, like being invited to join the SEC. Granted there are some great programs in CUSA. But I have to be honest our fans would be more pumped up playing schools like Georgia, Florida, Ole Miss. USC, Auburn, etc. than UAB, Tulane, Tulsa, UTEP, etc. Nothing against these fine institutions I am just stating my opinion. With schools coming to town in the fall on Saturdays, our campus would be one of the best atmospheres for college football in the nation. I have no doubt about that. I invite you to Greenville to see for yourself and once agin thank you for your open mindness.