Quote:The subsidy, which Maryland was promised in negotiations with the conference late last year, made an already appealing offer of Big Ten membership even more attractive to the school.

Since financial details of the agreement are kept private — the amount of the subsidy is not publicly available. But the amount is in the range of $20 million to $30 million, according to sources familiar with the deal.

Quote:What to conclude from this? That Maryland believed it was negotiating from strength. To be truly successful, you have to know you can walk away from a negotiation. You need a backup plan.

Maryland knew it could have stayed in the ACC; there is plenty of history there, and the conference isn’t faltering. If schools depart the ACC, it’s not because they must – it’s because they receive tempting offers and make calculations about their future prospects.

I am going to make an educated guess that the Big Ten didn’t enter the talks prepared to offer Maryland a travel subsidy. Maryland came to the talks equipped with projections showing how its travel costs would spiral. Maryland’s current team travel budget is about $3 million, and it has estimated the amount would roughly double in the first year in the Big Ten.

So it seems Maryland made a request, and that request was granted. I know Maryland and the Big Ten are future partners and that their interests are now aligned. But you always wonder in a negotiation who was the suitor and who was being courted.

(03-16-2013 08:32 AM)TIGER-PAUL Wrote:  Travel subsidy?
more like exit fee subsidy imo
doesn't help MD punitive arguement either

(03-16-2013 08:36 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  Maryland is purportedly a prize because of markets. I suspect what made Maryland worth an upfront payment was cracking the ACC veneer. B1G couldn't budge UVA, UNC, GT, FSU just as SEC couldn't budge UT or TAMU and used Arkansas to crack the foundation.

(03-16-2013 08:32 AM)TIGER-PAUL Wrote:  Travel subsidy?
more like exit fee subsidy imo
doesn't help MD punitive arguement either

(03-16-2013 08:47 AM)CommuterBob Wrote:  

(03-16-2013 08:32 AM)TIGER-PAUL Wrote:  Travel subsidy?
more like exit fee subsidy imo
doesn't help MD punitive arguement either

This. This does not help Maryland's case at all.

(03-16-2013 08:48 AM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(03-16-2013 08:32 AM)TIGER-PAUL Wrote:  Travel subsidy?
more like exit fee subsidy imo
doesn't help MD punitive arguement either

I agree with this. That's a lot of money to get upfront for Maryland. I wonder what Rutgers got.

I do find it interesting that this information is slowly being leaked out around Maryland's deal with the Big 10. If Maryland was in a position of strength before to negotiate things like this, can you imagine what UVA, GT, UNC would ask for.

(03-16-2013 08:48 AM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(03-16-2013 08:32 AM)TIGER-PAUL Wrote:  Travel subsidy?
more like exit fee subsidy imo
doesn't help MD punitive arguement either

I agree with this. That's a lot of money to get upfront for Maryland. I wonder what Rutgers got.

I do find it interesting that this information is slowly being leaked out around Maryland's deal with the Big 10. If Maryland was in a position of strength before to negotiate things like this, can you imagine what UVA, GT, UNC would ask for.

(03-16-2013 09:06 AM)TIGER-PAUL Wrote:  They would have to.
Main point is its not a deterrant for b10 or even sec.
They'd offer it to kansas or other b12 too.

(03-16-2013 08:30 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  20-30 million? Conveniently probably the same amount Maryland ends up paying to the ACC as an exit fee.

A lump sum paid to Maryland for future travel expenses for years to come? Yeah....right. Nice cover story for getting money to Maryland to help pay the expected exit fee amount.

In regards to Rutgers, they don't have nearly the exit fee to pay. Also, they wouldn't have gotten in without Maryland agreeing to come first.

(03-16-2013 08:47 AM)Tallgrass Wrote:  

(03-16-2013 08:36 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  Maryland is purportedly a prize because of markets. I suspect what made Maryland worth an upfront payment was cracking the ACC veneer. B1G couldn't budge UVA, UNC, GT, FSU just as SEC couldn't budge UT or TAMU and used Arkansas to crack the foundation.

I lived in Washington DC for almost 4 decades. It is a marvelous sports town. DC really supports sports.

It is a "national city" in the respect that alumni from all the states live there via the legislative and the consequent national organizations (lobbyists) and many schools from many states have a "branch office" there for extension programs. I knew Sunday which college team won because I would then see the T-Shirts pop out on Sunday folloing a victory.

Maryland is going to move DC from an "ACC" oriented town to a B1G oriented town....and I believe the B1G and Maryland pull will be so strong, that Virginia, Va TEch, and NC cannot ignore B1G.

For what it is worth, Both Maryland and Virginia considered themselves easterns schools. As an aside, so does Georgetown. It is this eastern orientation of the C7 schools and BE football playing schools that I felt the Nbe proposal would not work.

(03-16-2013 10:41 AM)XLance Wrote:  

(03-16-2013 08:30 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  20-30 million? Conveniently probably the same amount Maryland ends up paying to the ACC as an exit fee.

A lump sum paid to Maryland for future travel expenses for years to come? Yeah....right. Nice cover story for getting money to Maryland to help pay the expected exit fee amount.

In regards to Rutgers, they don't have nearly the exit fee to pay. Also, they wouldn't have gotten in without Maryland agreeing to come first.

No the 20-30 Million PLUS the original $20M. The B1G is just covering the difference from the original exit fee to the higher exit fee the Maryland will have to pay, because Maryland and the B1G DO NOT want the lawsuit to go to trial. If the truth comes out, Maryland and the B1G might find themselves on the short end of several other lawsuits.