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Legaux and Kay to compete for QB1.... - eroc - 02-28-2013 03:13 PM

according espin:

Quote:Legaux, Kay to compete for Bearcats QB job
February, 28, 2013

By Andrea Adelson | ESPN.com

Cincinnati quarterback Munchie Legaux might have lost his starting quarterback job last season, but new coach Tommy Tuberville is going to give him an opportunity to win it back.

Tuberville said in a phone interview with ESPN.com on Thursday that Legaux and Brendon Kay will once again compete for the starting job when spring practice opens Friday. Legaux and Kay were involved in a competition last spring and fall before Legaux won the job. He started the first eight games last season before Kay replaced him midway through the Syracuse game.

Kay ended up starting the final five games of 2012.

"(Legaux) and I have spent a lot of time together talking in the last three or four weeks about his future, and we’re going to give him every opportunity to win the starting position," Tuberville said. "I know over the last five or six games last year he was moved back to the backup role after getting off to a great start, but he’s a senior and he’s excited: new offense, new coaches, new perspective on showing us what he can do, so it’s wide open.

"Our starting quarterback, Brendon, he understands the same thing. We’re going to play the best quarterback. They’re going to be on an equal playing field going into this spring."

Don't expect a decision any time soon, either.

"I don’t know whether we’ll have our starter this spring or even at the end of spring," Tuberville said. "I think probably this is going to go on up to eight to 12 days of camp next fall. There’s not enough time to put enough offense in to evaluate what they can do with this offense, but there will be some competition. We’ll have three good scrimmages, and they’ll both have an opportunity to work with the first-team offensive line, receivers and running backs.

"Competition is the best thing in the world for a football team, especially when you have two quarterbacks who have played. They’ve competed against each other. Both are good friends. It’s going to be fun to watch those guys compete."

Legaux took heavy criticism last season because he had a tendency to make too many mistakes, and his accuracy has also been up-and-down. That led to his benching against Syracuse. Kay came into the game and led the come-from-behind win. He was better at taking care of the football, too. Kay was granted a sixth year of eligibility, and now he gets to fight for the starting job, again.

Hopefully this is just crap reporting by a crap blogger


RE: Legaux and Kay to compete for QB1.... - Nellie - 02-28-2013 03:21 PM

If any competition, I would hope it would between Munchie and Coney for #2.


RE: Legaux and Kay to compete for QB1.... - SuperFlyBCat - 02-28-2013 03:28 PM

During the Belk Bowl, Tubs was being interviewed and he really liked Kay.
But there should be competition for every position.


RE: Legaux and Kay to compete for QB1.... - BearcatBeta - 02-28-2013 03:37 PM

Somebody get the stretcher for Rath.


RE: Legaux and Kay to compete for QB1.... - Racinejake - 02-28-2013 03:42 PM

I think there will be "competition" which is just good business. But I can't imagine Munchie beating out Kay. I also can't imagine Tubs saying out loud that one guy is the "clear starter" without having to earn it.


RE: Legaux and Kay to compete for QB1.... - ThinkBigPine - 02-28-2013 03:55 PM

Tubs has mentioned all off season that the best player is going to see the field no matter what position they play. He can't encourage competition at all positions, and then come out and say that there is a clear starter penciled in. I am taking this as football politics, I believe Kay is the starter.


RE: Legaux and Kay to compete for QB1.... - cpawfan - 02-28-2013 03:56 PM

Part of the job of the coaching staff is to motivate the players. I see nothing wrong with keeping both players hungry so that they push each other.


RE: Legaux and Kay to compete for QB1.... - Racinejake - 02-28-2013 04:23 PM

Also, it would be great to see Coney or Norvell emerge as a true #2 at some point this season. Need someone who has seen some live reps heading into 2014.


RE: Legaux and Kay to compete for QB1.... - FLIP - 02-28-2013 04:29 PM

I fully expect Kay to beat out Munchie in the spring, with possibly Coney ending up #2 and Munchie moved to WR in the fall. We lack WR depth as it stands now, and I just don't see CTT letting Munchie waste his talent standing on the sidelines when he can be used elsewhere. The only benefit Munchie brought to QB position was his running ability - when he was allowed to run - but his passing is his achilles heal, and it just isn't good enough. Kay is the better passer and decision maker, and from his performance in the Belk, his running ability isn't bad either. Overall, Kay is just better IMO.


RE: Legaux and Kay to compete for QB1.... - coachpipe - 02-28-2013 04:33 PM

(02-28-2013 04:23 PM)Racinejake Wrote:  Also, it would be great to see Coney or Norvell emerge as a true #2 at some point this season. Need someone who has seen some live reps heading into 2014.

Was it patrick coyne who recently changed positions?


RE: Legaux and Kay to compete for QB1.... - subflea - 02-28-2013 04:42 PM

(02-28-2013 04:29 PM)FLIP Wrote:  I fully expect Kay to beat out Munchie in the spring, with possibly Coney ending up #2 and Munchie moved to WR in the fall. We lack WR depth as it stands now, and I just don't see CTT letting Munchie waste his talent standing on the sidelines when he can be used elsewhere. The only benefit Munchie brought to QB position was his running ability - when he was allowed to run - but his passing is his achilles heal, and it just isn't good enough. Kay is the better passer and decision maker, and from his performance in the Belk, his running ability isn't bad either. Overall, Kay is just better IMO.

I do not think there is any scenario where Munchie gets moved to WR.


RE: Legaux and Kay to compete for QB1.... - eroc - 02-28-2013 04:48 PM

Yes, competition is good. Yes, this may all just be politics or motivational. That said, when Coach Jones took over, he made it clear that Zach was his guy and Chazz packed his bags for Buffalo. if Munchie has his heart set on playing QB and his chances are slim at UC, maybe he should be afforded the opportunity to pursue his dreams and fulfill his ambitions elsewhere. i'll fully admit that i am skeptical of his ability to improve at the QB position. Perhaps he'll surprise me in a big way but i have serious reservations. What i do feel is that we need to establish someone sooner rather than later because we're installing new systems across the board and this is our last season with a guaranteed invite to a BCS bowl. And the B.East being whiat it is, it, i think dwe definitively have a shot at taking it home.


RE: Legaux and Kay to compete for QB1.... - CliftonAve - 02-28-2013 04:54 PM

(02-28-2013 04:42 PM)subflea Wrote:  
(02-28-2013 04:29 PM)FLIP Wrote:  I fully expect Kay to beat out Munchie in the spring, with possibly Coney ending up #2 and Munchie moved to WR in the fall. We lack WR depth as it stands now, and I just don't see CTT letting Munchie waste his talent standing on the sidelines when he can be used elsewhere. The only benefit Munchie brought to QB position was his running ability - when he was allowed to run - but his passing is his achilles heal, and it just isn't good enough. Kay is the better passer and decision maker, and from his performance in the Belk, his running ability isn't bad either. Overall, Kay is just better IMO.

I do not think there is any scenario where Munchie gets moved to WR.

Agreed. If Kay is the guy it is best to have an experienced backup available in case he goes down. History has shown that Qb's generally don't make it through the season unscathed here. Plus, Munchie would just get lost in the WR shuffle--- that is probably the deepest position group we have on the roster with McClung, Chism, Chris Moore, Johnny Horton, Shaq Washington, Jeremy Graves, Shakim Alonzo, DyJuan Lewis, Nate Cole, Braxton Lane and others.


RE: Legaux and Kay to compete for QB1.... - CDS86 - 02-28-2013 06:27 PM

I looked at the thread title and wondered "Why the hell is someone bringing back a thread from the beginning of 2012?". Here's hoping Kay comes out with a solid grasp of the offense. This would be what, the 3rd in his career?


RE: Legaux and Kay to compete for QB1.... - rath v2.0 - 02-28-2013 06:30 PM

(02-28-2013 03:37 PM)BearcatBeta Wrote:  Somebody get the stretcher for Rath.

I appreciate your concern. But no need. Being right since spring practice has a way of soothing the nerves.

Add in that all the butthurt Munchie and Jones apologists (most of whom probably thought proper mechanics was a magazine for gear heads) did an abrupt about face and I couldn't be happier with the prospect of a faux QB competition.

This staff didn't recruit these guys so they will not make the same mistake the last clowns did. Honestly the thought of El Munchito under center in a pro set is enough to make me chuckle.

Ball don't lie.


RE: Legaux and Kay to compete for QB1.... - cinbinsportsfan - 02-28-2013 06:31 PM

Munchie and Kay competing for the #1 quarterback job is probably more about the staff getting to know their players better than anything. Kay should win out.


RE: Legaux and Kay to compete for QB1.... - SuperFlyBCat - 02-28-2013 06:37 PM

With Kay UC will have a shot at 12-0 next football season.


RE: Legaux and Kay to compete for QB1.... - subflea - 02-28-2013 06:39 PM

(02-28-2013 06:31 PM)cinbinsportsfan Wrote:  Munchie and Kay competing for the #1 quarterback job is probably more about the staff getting to know their players better than anything. Kay should win out.

Glad to see you have finally come around on the Kay vs. Munchie issue.


RE: Legaux and Kay to compete for QB1.... - pat5775 - 02-28-2013 06:43 PM

(02-28-2013 06:30 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  
(02-28-2013 03:37 PM)BearcatBeta Wrote:  Somebody get the stretcher for Rath.

I appreciate your concern. But no need. Being right since spring practice has a way of soothing the nerves.

Add in that all the butthurt Munchie and Jones apologists (most of whom probably thought proper mechanics was a magazine for gear heads) did an abrupt about face and I couldn't be happier with the prospect of a faux QB competition.

This staff didn't recruit these guys so they will not make the same mistake the last clowns did. Honestly the thought of El Munchito under center in a pro set is enough to make me chuckle.

Ball don't lie.

04-bow 04-rock 04-cheers

This is merely "coach speak". There is no way Munchie wins the starting job. The stubborn/delusional Butch Jones staff is long gone, and Tuberville has no reason to be biased. Kay is far away the better QB, it's not even close.


RE: Legaux and Kay to compete for QB1.... - BearcatMan - 02-28-2013 06:43 PM

(02-28-2013 04:54 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  
(02-28-2013 04:42 PM)subflea Wrote:  
(02-28-2013 04:29 PM)FLIP Wrote:  I fully expect Kay to beat out Munchie in the spring, with possibly Coney ending up #2 and Munchie moved to WR in the fall. We lack WR depth as it stands now, and I just don't see CTT letting Munchie waste his talent standing on the sidelines when he can be used elsewhere. The only benefit Munchie brought to QB position was his running ability - when he was allowed to run - but his passing is his achilles heal, and it just isn't good enough. Kay is the better passer and decision maker, and from his performance in the Belk, his running ability isn't bad either. Overall, Kay is just better IMO.

I do not think there is any scenario where Munchie gets moved to WR.

Agreed. If Kay is the guy it is best to have an experienced backup available in case he goes down. History has shown that Qb's generally don't make it through the season unscathed here. Plus, Munchie would just get lost in the WR shuffle--- that is probably the deepest position group we have on the roster with McClung, Chism, Chris Moore, Johnny Horton, Shaq Washington, Jeremy Graves, Shakim Alonzo, DyJuan Lewis, Nate Cole, Braxton Lane and others.

Just for reference's sake, your WR list needs to get updated. Shakim Alonzo was moved to TE by the new staff on day two of their reign, and Dyjuan Lewis was kicked off the team a week and a half ago. Not nearly as deep as you'd like...there's only 3 guys on the list with quality snaps on their resume, and two more who have worn a jersey on gameday for the Bearcats.