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Future Baseball Divisions? - CougarRed - 03-31-2012 05:43 PM
There will be 14 Big East baseball teams after the dust clears.
You can't play everybody three times (39 conference games leaves no preseason). And there can be some travel savings for the Eastern schools if they are put in a division together.
It occurs to me this might work:
National
Notre Dame
Louisville
Cincy
Memphis
Houston
USF
UCF
American
Georgetown
St. Johns
Seton Hall
UConn
Rutgers
Villanova
Temple
Play everyone in your division (3 home, 3 away) and 2 or 3 series against the other division.
Anyone heard what they are going to do about baseball divisons/scheduling?
RE: Future Baseball Divisions? - TerryD - 03-31-2012 07:42 PM
I haven't heard or seen anything on future baseball divisions.
Your suggestion groups the Northeastern teams together and puts the rest in the other division.
That would work for me.
RE: Future Baseball Divisions? - gosports1 - 03-31-2012 08:11 PM
The soccer divisions dont seem to have any pattern to them so who knows what the BE will do with baseball. i think soccer is the only sport that has divisions. Does softball maybe?
RE: Future Baseball Divisions? - Knightshift - 03-31-2012 11:24 PM
(03-31-2012 05:43 PM)CougarRed Wrote: There will be 14 Big East baseball teams after the dust clears.
You can't play everybody three times (39 conference games leaves no preseason). And there can be some travel savings for the Eastern schools if they are put in a division together.
It occurs to me this might work:
National
Notre Dame
Louisville
Cincy
Memphis
Houston
USF
UCF
American
Georgetown
St. Johns
Seton Hall
UConn
Rutgers
Villanova
Temple
Play everyone in your division (3 home, 3 away) and 2 or 3 series against the other division.
Anyone heard what they are going to do about baseball divisons/scheduling?
I love college baseball, but it's going to be interesting to see what changes come down the pike. Because of the weather differences, I've heard some strange proposals are being considered. Such as, allowing teams to play games outside of the spring semester. Games that would still count towards their normal spring schedule total, but would allow them to start their seasons later, say mid-late March, and not having to play so many southern road games. Pretty bizarre stuff.
As for BE baseball, I think that divisional lineup would be great. I would assume baseball will be put into divisions, but it doesn't HAVE to be that way. There can be a 27-game conference schedule and just rotate the opponents around every year. But I would prefer the divisions. Obviously UCF is already used to playing Houston, Memphis, and USF every year, and would like to see that continue. Adding in UC, Notre Dame, and UL every year would make for a great schedule, too.
RE: Future Baseball Divisions? - goodknightfl - 04-01-2012 08:31 AM
It is going to make a pretty decent Baseball league, however they put it together. Ucf, Houston, USF, Louisville usually are pretty good. I don't know too much about the rest yet, but imagine there is quite a bit of potential there.
RE: Future Baseball Divisions? - DFW HOYA - 04-01-2012 09:26 AM
(03-31-2012 11:24 PM)Knightshift Wrote: I love college baseball, but it's going to be interesting to see what changes come down the pike. Because of the weather differences, I've heard some strange proposals are being considered. Such as, allowing teams to play games outside of the spring semester. Games that would still count towards their normal spring schedule total, but would allow them to start their seasons later, say mid-late March, and not having to play so many southern road games. Pretty bizarre stuff.
Extending the season might not be well received, and it may be an issue with institutions. For a number of years, Duke refused to play games after its own school year had ended, which hurt its baseball program.
RE: Future Baseball Divisions? - TerryD - 04-01-2012 09:41 AM
(04-01-2012 09:26 AM)DFW HOYA Wrote:(03-31-2012 11:24 PM)Knightshift Wrote: I love college baseball, but it's going to be interesting to see what changes come down the pike. Because of the weather differences, I've heard some strange proposals are being considered. Such as, allowing teams to play games outside of the spring semester. Games that would still count towards their normal spring schedule total, but would allow them to start their seasons later, say mid-late March, and not having to play so many southern road games. Pretty bizarre stuff.
Extending the season might not be well received, and it may be an issue with institutions. For a number of years, Duke refused to play games after its own school year had ended, which hurt its baseball program.
I think what he is talking about is allowing fall games and having them count towards the 56 game schedule requirement.
At least, that is one proposal that I read. So, it wouldn't be extending the season on the back end, it would be like playing a split season (Fall/Spring) and allowing the fall games to count.
RE: Future Baseball Divisions? - TerryD - 04-01-2012 10:07 AM
(04-01-2012 08:31 AM)goodknightfl Wrote: It is going to make a pretty decent Baseball league, however they put it together. Ucf, Houston, USF, Louisville usually are pretty good. I don't know too much about the rest yet, but imagine there is quite a bit of potential there.
A little ND baseball history in the Big East for fans of the incoming schools:
Under coach Paul Mainieri, ND had great baseball success. Mainieri (1995-2006), lead his teams to 11 40-win seasons, nine conference titles, nine NCAA Regional appearances and a berth in the 2002 College World Series.
Under Mainieri, ND had a .714 winning percentage going 533–213–3.
Notre Dame made it to an NCAA Regional in every season from 1999-2006, making the Irish one of 10 teams to appear in every NCAA Tournament in that eight-year span - the others were Miami, Texas, Rice, Cal State Fullerton, Florida State, Stanford, Clemson, Tulane and Oral Roberts.
Notre Dame also joined six other schools (LSU, Miami, Rice, South Carolina, Stanford and Texas) as the only programs to reach an NCAA Regional final every season from 2000-05.
Sixty of Mainieri's Notre Dame players were drafted or signed free-agent contracts, and 19 were selected in the first 10 rounds of the Major League draft. His Irish players also combined for 14 All-America and 10 Academic All-America seasons.
Mainieri's Notre Dame teams combined for a 100-percent graduation rate (71 of 71) among players who completed their eligibility. Twelve players who signed professionally after their junior year returned to Notre Dame to complete their degree requirements.
Notre Dame was the only Division I baseball program to produce Academic All-Americans each year from 2000-04, with two honored every season from 2000-03. The 2006 squad combined for an impressive 3.28 team GPA during the spring semester.
Notre Dame was one of just four schools from 1998-2001 that produced two pitchers - Brad Lidge ('98, Houston Astros) and Aaron Heilman ('02, New York Mets) - who were drafted in the first round, with both players advancing to the Major Leagues.
Mainieri and his ND staff consistently have molded players into top prospects, as Lidge was just a 42nd-round pick out of high school while Heilman was a 54th-round pick.
Seven of Mainieri's former Notre Dame players have reached the Major League level, including six pitchers - Brad Lidge (Astros/Phillies), Aaron Heilman (Mets/Cubs/Diamondbacks/Mariners), Jeff Samardzija (Cubs), Jeff Manship (Twins), John Axford (Brewers) and Christian Parker (Yankees).
http://www.lsusports.net/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=5200&ATCLID=319086
Things did not go well with his successor, Dave Schrage, who was fired after four seasons.
Under second year coach Mik Aoki (from Boston College), the Irish are now 16-9 and 4-1 in the Big East. Things are looking up again.
RE: Future Baseball Divisions? - UConn-SMU - 04-01-2012 06:51 PM
(04-01-2012 08:31 AM)goodknightfl Wrote: It is going to make a pretty decent Baseball league, however they put it together. Ucf, Houston, USF, Louisville usually are pretty good. I don't know too much about the rest yet, but imagine there is quite a bit of potential there.
Last year, UConn lost to South Carolina in the Super Regional final series (?), for a ticket to Omaha.
RE: Future Baseball Divisions? - goodknightfl - 04-01-2012 07:42 PM
Thanks for the history, I figured there were and likely are some good stories out there. I can't wait to survive 12/21/12, and get to 2013.
RE: Future Baseball Divisions? - TrojanCampaign - 04-01-2012 11:48 PM
I think they will spit UCF and USF into different divisions and make it a protected conference game. Why? I have noticed being in the South we have a lot of Northern teams come down to Troy early in the season because it's usually much warmer in the South in February.
I could see you guys having early conference games vs UCF and USF and it would actually be good for he Big East if SDSU get's x number of Big East teams on the schedule.
RE: Future Baseball Divisions? - ShoreBuc - 04-02-2012 07:12 AM
(04-01-2012 07:42 PM)goodknightfl Wrote: Thanks for the history, I figured there were and likely are some good stories out there. I can't wait to survive 12/21/12, and get to 2013.
He left out an impressive part of that History lesson...UCONN has 5 Omaha trips to their credit. While the last one was 1979 that is still an accomplishment that is worth patting yourself on the back for. A lot of programs...ECU included would give their left man part for a trip to Omaha.