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Thoughts on plus/minus - MICHAELSPAPPY - 02-25-2012 09:08 AM
By this time in the season, BTH's plus/minus ought to begin to have meaning. However, it is still puzzling. The only pluses are Taggart, Dre, Javes, Neighbour, Louzeiro. The biggest negative is Courtney, oddly enough.
RE: Thoughts on plus/minus - mjs - 02-25-2012 09:29 AM
(02-25-2012 09:08 AM)MICHAELSPAPPY Wrote: By this time in the season, BTH's plus/minus ought to begin to have meaning. However, it is still puzzling. The only pluses are Taggart, Dre, Javes, Neighbour, Louzeiro. The biggest negative is Courtney, oddly enough.
That is odd. No one plays harder the Courtney. He is our best inside scorer and rebounder. He seems to play good defense. Can't really explain it. I guess being on (or off) the court, during one really bad run (ex. Kentucky's 23-1 spurt) can skew those numbers quite a bit.
RE: Thoughts on plus/minus - MICHAELSPAPPY - 02-25-2012 09:42 AM
It could be that he is the "glue" player that gets left in the game in a lot cases when non-starters are in there.
RE: Thoughts on plus/minus - outsideualr - 02-25-2012 10:58 AM
I think the +/- thing is a bunch of hooey. Sorry Jeff, but I don't think it has anything to do with how a player is really contributing. So much depends on who the other players are in the game with you at the time. For example, during the Chicago Bulls glory days, a complete dud could be in the lineup with Jordan, Pippen and a couple of other great players when he got his minutes, and might have a great +/- rating, while another player might only be in the lineup when the great players were resting on the bench, and he was playing with other subs, and have a lousy +/- rating. There are better methods, IMO, of measuring a players value to the team.
RE: Thoughts on plus/minus - MICHAELSPAPPY - 02-25-2012 11:25 AM
Very true over the short term, but over the course of a whole season, the law of averages will bring things to where they ought to be, at least for the players who have played very much.
RE: Thoughts on plus/minus - outsideualr - 02-25-2012 12:57 PM
Maybe so. But it does give us one more stat to discuss.
RE: Thoughts on plus/minus - mjs - 02-25-2012 02:16 PM
(02-25-2012 12:57 PM)outsideualr Wrote: Maybe so. But it does give us one more stat to discuss.
I think it often tells you quite a bit about a players importance to his team, but it does have its flaws.