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UC Bearcats' rivalry with Seton Hall bubbles over - ctipton - 02-18-2012 06:18 AM
UC Bearcats' rivalry with Seton Hall bubbles over
Pirates also playing for NCAA tourney position
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Mick Cronin and the Bearcats lost at Seton Hall in January of 2010.
There will be no shortage of friendly rivalries between players and coaches from the University of Cincinnati and Seton Hall today.
From UC coach Mick Cronin’s close ties with Seton Hall coach Kevin Willard to UC guard Sean Kilpatrick’s relationship with Seton Hall point guard Jordan Theodore to the longtime rivalry between UC forward Yancy Gates and Seton Hall forward Herb Pope, players and coaches will be on familiar terms when they approach midcourt for the 4 p.m. tipoff (Fox Sports Ohio) at Fifth Third Arena.
Both teams are trying to make their case to get into the NCAA Tournament, and both were listed as No.12 seeds in Joe Lunardi’s ESPN.com bracket projection Friday. UC is 18-8 overall, 8-5 in the Big East, Seton Hall is 18-8, 7-7.
The Pirates, who lost six in a row from Jan.13 to Feb.4, have won their last three and are coming off a 94-64 win over St. John’s on Tuesday in which they made 15 3-pointers and shot 62.3 percent overall. Their offense is propelled by Theodore, who averages 15.8 points and 6.4 assists.
“They go as he goes,” Cronin said.
Theodore, from Englewood, N.J., has played both with and against Kilpatrick, who’s from White Plains, N.Y., in high school and AAU competition.
“I’m real close with Jordan,” Kilpatrick said. “He’s come a long way. He’s been there for four years and just continued to keep grinding. When the program was up and down, he was still continuing to work. He never gave up on their program. He’s doing a great job.”
Pope, a 6-foot-8, 236-pound senior, is one of the top front-line players in the Big East. He averages a double-double of 15.6 points and 10.4 rebounds compared with 12.8 and 9.3 for UC’s Gates.
“They’ve known each other a long time,” Cronin said. “Those guys have been playing AAU against each other all throughout high school and they’ve been in the same league. I know they’re always motivated. You can tell when they play against each other.”
Seton Hall, ranked No.29 in CollegeRPI.com, appears to have more solid postseason credentials than UC, even though its Big East record is not as good. The Bearcats, ranked No.93 largely because of a weak non-league schedule and several disturbing non-conference losses, know they have to finish strong in their last five regular-season games if they’re going to play in the NCAA Tournament for the second straight year.
UC has struggled to rebound consistently for most of the season, but lately the Bearcats have been terrors on the glass, outrebounding their last three opponents by an average of 45-28. They also have reduced their reliance on 3-point shooting, both by design and as a result of an increased emphasis by their opponents on taking away that facet of their game.
“I think we’re taking better shots,” Cronin said. “We’ve taken less threes. We’ve attacked the basket. When you attack the basket and you take better shots, you’re going to get more rebounds.”
The Pirates have attempted 292 3-point shots in Big East competition – the most by any team – and have made 37 percent of them, second in the league in that category. Defensively, Seton Hall has held its opponents to 39.6 percent shooting in conference games and has the nation’s leading steal artist in Fuquan Edwin, who gets 3.0 per game.
This would be a difficult game for Cronin regardless of the circumstances because of his friendship with Willard, which stems from when they were both assistant coaches at Louisville under Rick Pitino.
“Kevin and I have grown bald together working for Rick Pitino,” Cronin said. “Obviously, it’s tough because we compete in everything, but we’re as close as two people could possibly be.”
So look for plenty of smiles and good will to be exchanged before the game, not so much once the ball goes up.
“I know that they’re not going to stop fighting throughout the whole game,” Kilpatrick said. “We’ve got to out-tough them and try to out-scrap them.”
RE: UC Bearcats' rivalry with Seton Hall bubbles over - DelhiBearcat - 02-18-2012 11:57 AM
Not sure which part is better... Several or Disturbing.
RE: UC Bearcats' rivalry with Seton Hall bubbles over - ctipton - 02-18-2012 12:18 PM
Bill Koch could write "four score and seven years ago" and you freaking people would be pissed he didn't write "87".
RE: UC Bearcats' rivalry with Seton Hall bubbles over - DelhiBearcat - 02-18-2012 12:39 PM
sev·er·al (svr-l, svrl)
1. Being of a number more than two or three but not many
Non-Con losses: Presbyterian, Marshall, and X.
X was top 10 at the time, so I guess that's not considered "disturbing".
2 loses (= several) without Parker or Mbodj (= disturbing). Just Koch dark clouding everything as usual.
RE: UC Bearcats' rivalry with Seton Hall bubbles over - ctipton - 02-18-2012 12:41 PM
(02-18-2012 12:39 PM)DelhiBearcat Wrote: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/several
And Delhi, pissing and moaning as usual. At least women were given two sets of lips so they could piss and moan at the same time. You just got your fingertips.
RE: UC Bearcats' rivalry with Seton Hall bubbles over - rath v2.0 - 02-18-2012 12:54 PM
Mention Mike Brown if you really want to see him get worked up.
RE: UC Bearcats' rivalry with Seton Hall bubbles over - DelhiBearcat - 02-18-2012 01:56 PM
How is pointing out improper use of the English language "pissing and moaning"?
I left one of these after the quote " ". That means I was laughing. I then said "Not sure which part is better", again pointing out that I took humor from the comment.
The board cops complaing about "pissing and moaning"...
P.S. Be careful Rath... You're going to catch one Hell of a tongue lashing having the nerve to mention Mike Brown in a UC/Seton Hall thread and potentially throwing this thread off topic (which is just a horrific crime).
RE: UC Bearcats' rivalry with Seton Hall bubbles over - cinbinsportsfan - 02-18-2012 02:00 PM
(02-18-2012 12:41 PM)ctipton Wrote:(02-18-2012 12:39 PM)DelhiBearcat Wrote: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/several
Greatest. Sentence. Ever.
RE: UC Bearcats' rivalry with Seton Hall bubbles over - Billy_Bearcat - 02-18-2012 03:22 PM
(02-18-2012 02:00 PM)cinbinsportsfan Wrote:(02-18-2012 12:41 PM)ctipton Wrote: And Delhi, pissing and moaning as usual. At least women were given two sets of lips so they could piss and moan at the same time. You just got your fingertips.
RE: UC Bearcats' rivalry with Seton Hall bubbles over - BJUnklFkr - 02-18-2012 06:45 PM
Should I change the title of this thread? It has taken quite a turn