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RE: Alabama State moving up? - Burn the Horse - 10-08-2011 01:07 PM

(10-08-2011 01:06 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  But can we get of this Alabama St vs Troy University hate this is just weird lol. State has it's umm location and we have our proven success at both levels. Just leave it at that because I don't see anyone in the Sun Belt saying Troy winning the conference five straight years was a fluke, or having one of the best baseball programs in the nation is a fluke.

we are who Bama State WANTS to be. so, they hate on us.

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RE: Alabama State moving up? - BamaState1 - 10-08-2011 01:19 PM

(10-08-2011 12:46 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  
(10-08-2011 12:39 PM)BamaState1 Wrote:  If Alabama State truly wanted to move there football program to FBS then it could happen. That's all I'm saying.

No, it couldn't just happen BamaState1. In order to move up to the FBS level you MUST have a Conference to move in to. the Sun Belt would not extend and invitation for several reasons...but if for no other reason, because Troy and South Alabama would block it. There is no other Conference that would even consider your team, so the chance of moving up is nill.

your athletics are good at the level you play at now, but that doesn't mean they would see that success at our level. a QB (a good one at that) who couldn't win the starting job at Troy transfered to Bama State and took the starting job immediately and has been an all-star level competitor in the SWAC. that's because the competition is weaker. don't confuse competition like A&M, Tuskegee, and Jackson State with that of FBS level competition. it's a whole different game.

I don't blame you for being proud of your team, I respect that. But don't come to our board claiming you would be able to come in and be good, because you wouldn't. But, since Bama State won't be moving up, it won't matter what we say here.

Once again u Troy people have your facts messed up. Jenkins has struggled at the QB position. He can't throw the ball at all. The reason the other QB is not starting because he wasn't on the field during the spring and putting him as backup is a way of them punishing him. I know this because I know the guy personally. Also, You do not have to be in a conference to join the FBS. You should know this because Troy joined as an Independent. Why would Troy & South Alabama block the move. Doesn't make sense unless they are scared of Alabama State recruiting the same FBS players. Sun Belt level is not that different. Sun Belt schools play BCS schools and get embarrased. You know that. Don't make the Sun Belt look so much better when it's at the bottom of the FBS. I don't even think Alabama State would move into the Sun Belt anyway. It would be worthless due to that fact. You guys are down there talking about moving to the ACC & Big East and non of those conference are talking about you guys. Troy can't even move up to Conference USA because they won't be able to compete in basketball with those teams and they don't have big enough venues for that type of level. I'm just saying. Troy is building a new basketball arena which is basically the same size as there old arena. Doesn't make sense to waste money like that. I respect YOUR pride you have in Troy too. lol


RE: Alabama State moving up? - Burn the Horse - 10-08-2011 01:29 PM

(10-08-2011 01:19 PM)BamaState1 Wrote:  Also, You do not have to be in a conference to join the FBS. You should know this because Troy joined as an Independent. Why would Troy & South Alabama block the move. Doesn't make sense unless they are scared of Alabama State recruiting the same FBS players. Sun Belt level is not that different. Sun Belt schools play BCS schools and get embarrased. You know that. Don't make the Sun Belt look so much better when it's at the bottom of the FBS. I don't even think Alabama State would move into the Sun Belt anyway. It would be worthless due to that fact. You guys are down there talking about moving to the ACC & Big East and non of those conference are talking about you guys. Troy can't even move up to Conference USA because they won't be able to compete in basketball with those teams and they don't have big enough venues for that type of level. I'm just saying. Troy is building a new basketball arena which is basically the same size as there old arena. Doesn't make sense to waste money like that. I respect YOUR pride you have in Troy too. lol

there is so much wrong and inaccurate in this post I don't know where to start. I don't think I even need to respond to it, everyone on here can read for themselves.

YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. 03-lmfao


RE: Alabama State moving up? - BamaState1 - 10-08-2011 01:37 PM

(10-08-2011 01:29 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  
(10-08-2011 01:19 PM)BamaState1 Wrote:  Also, You do not have to be in a conference to join the FBS. You should know this because Troy joined as an Independent. Why would Troy & South Alabama block the move. Doesn't make sense unless they are scared of Alabama State recruiting the same FBS players. Sun Belt level is not that different. Sun Belt schools play BCS schools and get embarrased. You know that. Don't make the Sun Belt look so much better when it's at the bottom of the FBS. I don't even think Alabama State would move into the Sun Belt anyway. It would be worthless due to that fact. You guys are down there talking about moving to the ACC & Big East and non of those conference are talking about you guys. Troy can't even move up to Conference USA because they won't be able to compete in basketball with those teams and they don't have big enough venues for that type of level. I'm just saying. Troy is building a new basketball arena which is basically the same size as there old arena. Doesn't make sense to waste money like that. I respect YOUR pride you have in Troy too. lol

there is so much wrong and inaccurate in this post I don't know where to start. I don't think I even need to respond to it, everyone on here can read for themselves.

YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. 03-lmfao

No. Prove me wrong then. Tell me where I'm wrong and I will give you the facts of those statements I made. I'm sure you can't do it. NEXT! HAHAHAHA!


RE: Alabama State moving up? - Burn the Horse - 10-08-2011 01:41 PM

(10-08-2011 01:37 PM)BamaState1 Wrote:  No. Prove me wrong then. Tell me where I'm wrong and I will give you the facts of those statements I made. I'm sure you can't do it. NEXT! HAHAHAHA!

Since you are the one who posted the nonsense it is not on my shoulders to spend my time researching YOUR mistakes to prove anything. go jump on Google and look up the FBS move-up criteria, the stats comparing the Sun Belt and the SWAC, and the politics behind Conferfence USA expansion and why Troy is not at the top of their list.

I'll wait. 07-coffee3


RE: Alabama State moving up? - rockstar791 - 10-08-2011 01:46 PM

(10-08-2011 01:37 PM)BamaState1 Wrote:  
(10-08-2011 01:29 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  
(10-08-2011 01:19 PM)BamaState1 Wrote:  Also, You do not have to be in a conference to join the FBS. You should know this because Troy joined as an Independent. Why would Troy & South Alabama block the move. Doesn't make sense unless they are scared of Alabama State recruiting the same FBS players. Sun Belt level is not that different. Sun Belt schools play BCS schools and get embarrased. You know that. Don't make the Sun Belt look so much better when it's at the bottom of the FBS. I don't even think Alabama State would move into the Sun Belt anyway. It would be worthless due to that fact. You guys are down there talking about moving to the ACC & Big East and non of those conference are talking about you guys. Troy can't even move up to Conference USA because they won't be able to compete in basketball with those teams and they don't have big enough venues for that type of level. I'm just saying. Troy is building a new basketball arena which is basically the same size as there old arena. Doesn't make sense to waste money like that. I respect YOUR pride you have in Troy too. lol

there is so much wrong and inaccurate in this post I don't know where to start. I don't think I even need to respond to it, everyone on here can read for themselves.

YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. 03-lmfao

No. Prove me wrong then. Tell me where I'm wrong and I will give you the facts of those statements I made. I'm sure you can't do it. NEXT! HAHAHAHA!

I'll just jump in here I guess and inform you that the rules have long been changed. FCS programs are no longer allowed to move up to FBS without an invite from a conference. You can longer just move up as an independent. Also, the Sun Belt may be at the lower level of FBS, but you have no idea the difference between FBS and FCS. No disrespect intended, but you're horribly ignorant in this area.


RE: Alabama State moving up? - BamaState1 - 10-08-2011 02:23 PM

(10-08-2011 01:41 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  
(10-08-2011 01:37 PM)BamaState1 Wrote:  No. Prove me wrong then. Tell me where I'm wrong and I will give you the facts of those statements I made. I'm sure you can't do it. NEXT! HAHAHAHA!

Since you are the one who posted the nonsense it is not on my shoulders to spend my time researching YOUR mistakes to prove anything. go jump on Google and look up the FBS move-up criteria, the stats comparing the Sun Belt and the SWAC, and the politics behind Conferfence USA expansion and why Troy is not at the top of their list.

I'll wait. 07-coffee3

No need for me to do so. I know what I'm talking about. You go and check your fact before you try to insult another school trying to improve and get as good as they possibly can. You come on here and try to disrespect another school but yet you have no facts by what you are saying. You are just talking out of your a**. Have a good day sir and Go Troy :) (not really)


RE: Alabama State moving up? - Burn the Horse - 10-08-2011 02:28 PM

(10-08-2011 02:23 PM)BamaState1 Wrote:  
(10-08-2011 01:41 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  
(10-08-2011 01:37 PM)BamaState1 Wrote:  No. Prove me wrong then. Tell me where I'm wrong and I will give you the facts of those statements I made. I'm sure you can't do it. NEXT! HAHAHAHA!

Since you are the one who posted the nonsense it is not on my shoulders to spend my time researching YOUR mistakes to prove anything. go jump on Google and look up the FBS move-up criteria, the stats comparing the Sun Belt and the SWAC, and the politics behind Conferfence USA expansion and why Troy is not at the top of their list.

I'll wait. 07-coffee3

No need for me to do so. I know what I'm talking about. You go and check your fact before you try to insult another school trying to improve and get as good as they possibly can. You come on here and try to disrespect another school but yet you have no facts by what you are saying. You are just talking out of your a**. Have a good day sir and Go Troy :) (not really)

C'mon man, are you for real? So you are going to sit there and say that I don't know what I'm talking about in reference to current FBS move-up policy, the SWAC not being as good as the Sun Belt, and Conference USA not wanting Troy based on location and not facilities (post new arena)?

You should just bow out of this one now my friend, you look dumb. keep in mind I'm not calling you dumb, you're just arguing against facts.


RE: Alabama State moving up? - Burn the Horse - 10-08-2011 02:34 PM

here is a quick bit of information to help enlighten you as to the requirements of moving up from FCS to FBS in this modern day:

http://ncaabbs.com/showthread.php?tid=428366

so as you can see, it isn't merely a need to WANT to move up, you must have an invitation from an established FBS Conference before anything can get rolling.


RE: Alabama State moving up? - BlueRaiderFan. - 10-08-2011 02:38 PM

(10-08-2011 02:34 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  here is a quick bit of information to help enlighten you as to the requirements of moving up from FCS to FBS in this modern day:

http://ncaabbs.com/showthread.php?tid=428366

Yep, and AState has nowhere to go...