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RE: Alabama State moving up? - troyw - 12-21-2010 11:58 AM

(12-21-2010 11:27 AM)SpaceRaider Wrote:  
(12-21-2010 10:50 AM)BMarkey Wrote:  
(12-21-2010 10:07 AM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  
(12-21-2010 12:22 AM)marlonfield Wrote:  You will probably see the best of the SWAC and MEAC align and try to move up together, and the left overs merging together to stay at FCS. I see FAMU, Southern, Jackson St, Grambling, Bama St, TnSu, South Carolina St, Nort Carolina A&T, Tx Southern all trying to move up at some point. I could be wrong

I very much doubt any of those schools can afford to move up to FBS.

FAMU was much better suited for a move-up and look what happened there.

Maybe the troy fans can answer this due to their proximity, but didn't Alabama State have some pretty severe ncaa infractions to overcome just a few years back? I remember they had the cheating Cole brothers (I think they're coaching at TX Southern now) who went there after getting tn state in nashville in trouble with the ncaa.

Yes, the program at Alabama State is shady at best. I just don't see how they would be successful with a move to FBS.


RE: Alabama State moving up? - arkstfan - 12-21-2010 04:11 PM

FWIW, a long-time athletic administrator told me years ago that Jackson State was the only SWAC school that could move to (then) I-A because none of the others were apparently even aware the NCAA had a rule book.


RE: Alabama State moving up? - MG61 - 12-21-2010 04:36 PM

(12-21-2010 04:11 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  FWIW, a long-time athletic administrator told me years ago that Jackson State was the only SWAC school that could move to (then) I-A because none of the others were apparently even aware the NCAA had a rule book.

04-jawdrop


RE: Alabama State moving up? - Burn the Horse - 12-21-2010 09:38 PM

Alabama State football is a joke. they came down to Troy a few years back and brought a good crowd. We sent them home with the tails between their legs licking their wounds. These FCS programs talk about moving up all the time, but they aren't prepared most of the time.

Jacksonville State was talking about moving up and joining the Belt too. That is also laughable.


RE: Alabama State moving up? - trojanblood - 12-22-2010 01:22 AM

(12-21-2010 09:38 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  Alabama State football is a joke. they came down to Troy a few years back and brought a good crowd. We sent them home with the tails between their legs licking their wounds. These FCS programs talk about moving up all the time, but they aren't prepared most of the time.

Jacksonville State was talking about moving up and joining the Belt too. That is also laughable.

Anytime TROY plays ASU or JSU the place is packed out. After TROY moved up they had a hole in their schedule where Iowa St. pulled out of there contract to play TROY at home. So they got ASU to fill the slot left open.


RE: Alabama State moving up? - troy4ever21 - 12-22-2010 01:35 AM

Yeah ASU was one of our highest attended games.


RE: Alabama State moving up? - CitrusUCF - 12-22-2010 09:57 AM

(12-21-2010 04:11 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  FWIW, a long-time athletic administrator told me years ago that Jackson State was the only SWAC school that could move to (then) I-A because none of the others were apparently even aware the NCAA had a rule book.

It's pretty much true. One way many of them skimp on budgets is by having a really small and/or part-time Compliance Office. When I was a GA in Compliance, I dealt with an HBCU whose basketball coach doubled as their Compliance Officer. And he had no idea what he was talking about or what the rules were -- he was basically recruiting one of our players to transfer to his school after the player had announced he was leaving the team, but our coaches had not given him permission to speak to other schools yet.


RE: Alabama State moving up? - FloridaJag - 12-22-2010 01:10 PM

(12-21-2010 12:22 AM)marlonfield Wrote:  You will probably see the best of the SWAC and MEAC align and try to move up together, and the left overs merging together to stay at FCS. I see FAMU, Southern, Jackson St, Grambling, Bama St, TnSu, South Carolina St, Nort Carolina A&T, Tx Southern all trying to move up at some point. I could be wrong

I agree with you.

I see them realigning within six years. The gubner of Mississippi has already proferred the merging of Alcorn State and Mississippi Valley State into Jackson State. Plus I believe the northern MEAC schools will probably fall back to DII leaving SC State, FAMU, NC A&T, NCCU and BCU to make a decision. Savannah State will go DII as well.

Falling your logic

I see the a new HBCU conference as

Alabama State
Alabama A&M
Bethune Cookman
Deleware State
Florida A&M
Grambling
North Carolina A&T
North Carolina Central
Priarie View A&M
South Carolina State
Southern
Texas Southern


East

Bethune Cookman
Deleware State
Florida A&M
North Carolina A&T
North Carolina Central
South Carolina State

West

Alabama State
Alabama A&M
Grambling State
Priarie View A&M
Southern
Texas Southern

This would be a very nice FCS conference.


RE: Alabama State moving up? - BamaState1 - 10-08-2011 06:18 AM

(12-20-2010 03:53 PM)troyw Wrote:  
(12-20-2010 03:51 PM)SidJag Wrote:  Alabama State located in downtown Montgomery is getting ready to build a 30,000 stadium The athletic director, Mr. Stanley sez they want to move to a higher level.

http://www.wsfa.com/Global/story.asp?S=13559032

Don't see it happening...ASU has many troubles not known to those outside of the state of Alabama.

Not true. ASU is definitely known outside of Alabama based on the experience I had traveling with ASU. Secondly, Alabama State has not had any dicussion to move to the FBS but ASU is in a position where they can do so. Moving to the Sun Belt wouldn't be that difficult. The Sun Belt is smallest of FBS conferences and a lot of the schools in this conference are not known unless you stay in these areas. ASU has a 8,000 seat basketball arena and now a new 30,000 seat football stadium on the way. ASU doesn't use old hotels for students. I have no idea where u got that from. Alabama State is a growing institution and with the growth of the University a move to FBS is very possible. Troy did it even though I have no idea seeing there are one of the smallest FBS schools around with only around 7,000 students on there campus.


RE: Alabama State moving up? - troyw - 10-08-2011 07:34 AM

(10-08-2011 06:18 AM)BamaState1 Wrote:  
(12-20-2010 03:53 PM)troyw Wrote:  
(12-20-2010 03:51 PM)SidJag Wrote:  Alabama State located in downtown Montgomery is getting ready to build a 30,000 stadium The athletic director, Mr. Stanley sez they want to move to a higher level.

http://www.wsfa.com/Global/story.asp?S=13559032

Don't see it happening...ASU has many troubles not known to those outside of the state of Alabama.

Not true. ASU is definitely known outside of Alabama based on the experience I had traveling with ASU. Secondly, Alabama State has not had any dicussion to move to the FBS but ASU is in a position where they can do so. Moving to the Sun Belt wouldn't be that difficult. The Sun Belt is smallest of FBS conferences and a lot of the schools in this conference are not known unless you stay in these areas. ASU has a 8,000 seat basketball arena and now a new 30,000 seat football stadium on the way. ASU doesn't use old hotels for students. I have no idea where u got that from. Alabama State is a growing institution and with the growth of the University a move to FBS is very possible. Troy did it even though I have no idea seeing there are one of the smallest FBS schools around with only around 7,000 students on there campus.

Talk about reviving a cold thread...04-jawdrop

Seriously, congrats on the new stadium but I still doubt the ability to move up at this time. There is a lot more to the move than simply announcing you are going to do so. Troy was fortunate to make the move before the major changes started taking place...seems to me that it will be more difficult to do in the future.