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RE: The movie thread - bitcruncher - 07-02-2010 06:47 PM
(07-02-2010 10:30 AM)DrTorch Wrote:The salvation of the kid whose first introduction to his savior was an attempted theft, and having the man becoming revered by the very people he started out hating isn't your usual Hollywood fare...(07-02-2010 09:33 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:Unique plot? It's a standard messiah story.
RE: The movie thread - jh - 07-03-2010 04:57 AM
(07-02-2010 12:55 AM)Lush Wrote: Bubba Ho-Tep. Absurd and fantastic. Aged and forgotten, the real Elvis Presley and JFK combine forces to defeat a wayward mummy who's hell bent on stealing the souls from their old folks home.
Loved this one.
RE: The movie thread - DrTorch - 07-03-2010 11:54 AM
(07-02-2010 03:19 PM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:(07-02-2010 11:09 AM)flyingswoosh Wrote:(07-02-2010 10:30 AM)DrTorch Wrote:(07-02-2010 09:33 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:
All I can say is, "Wow".
This wasn't subtle. This was overt.
Your lit and film professors owe you your money back.
RE: The movie thread - flyingswoosh - 07-04-2010 12:00 AM
(07-03-2010 11:54 AM)DrTorch Wrote:(07-02-2010 03:19 PM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:(07-02-2010 11:09 AM)flyingswoosh Wrote:(07-02-2010 10:30 AM)DrTorch Wrote:(07-02-2010 09:33 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:
i agree it was a messiah story and a pretty obvious one, but so what? It's very rare to find a movie that doesn't have a familiar, underlying story. I can think of 3 humphrey bogart movies that had familiar underlying stories; african queen, treasure of sierra madre and casablanca. two of those have the typical reluctant messiah story that he was famous for.
RE: The movie thread - PirateTreasureNC - 07-04-2010 10:44 PM
(07-04-2010 12:00 AM)flyingswoosh Wrote:(07-03-2010 11:54 AM)DrTorch Wrote:(07-02-2010 03:19 PM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:(07-02-2010 11:09 AM)flyingswoosh Wrote:(07-02-2010 09:33 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:
HOW is Gran Torino a messiah story?
Finished off my Matrix Trilogy along with Animatrix.
Man, the reasoning out of the story in 3 is still jacked up IMO. And, the more I think about how the Architect talked about the whole setup and then they get into all this programs, really in the matrix...ect.... ehhhh.... I don't think they brought the story around like they should have.
Animatrix, a really great addition to the mythos IMO. I liked all the stories they told in it.
The Last Airbender
--Liked the tv show a lot so saw the movie. I didn't understand the hate it got in the reviews but my own personal beef with the movie was how they jumped scenes. I think a director's cut or just lengthening the movie period could have taken care of that. They did a pretty good job with the casting.
RE: The movie thread - PirateTreasureNC - 07-06-2010 12:43 AM
Predator and Predator 2.
What I don't get is how can you have Predator, one of the most bad ass action movies of all time, take such a huge step downward in awesomeness with Predator 2. It wasn't even a victim of the casting... I mean it would be hard to beat Ahnuld, Apollo Creed ( ), The Body,.... Even still... the ball was dropped.
RE: The movie thread - DrTorch - 07-06-2010 02:03 PM
Let's see. Powerful, self-reliant Walter saves weak neigbors from gang activity. Walter rejects their gratitude and overtures requesting more aid, b/c he wants to be left alone (thus the main plot).
However, he rescues the girl again, and begins to open up to their hospitality. He then sees Tao struggling to be ushered into manhood.
He reaches out to the family, and his neighborhood, discipling them, and empowering them to become self-reliant.
When violence strikes, he once again comes to the rescue.
When the violence escalates, and he sees that his disciples will be overwhelmed and harmed, he sacrifices himself to bring final conclusion to this episode. Notice he gives them a bendiction before and after he leaves, an exhortation to continue on w/ their own self-sufficiency.
The Christian parallels are not subtle or hidden:
Walter knows his ethos. He does not compromise nor does he apologize for it.
Walter recognizes evil exists, and he will confront it.
Walter treats everybody equally. He expects people to follow the Golden Rule, and he raises his esteem of others who do so.
Walter understands and practices repentance and forgiveness.
Walter understands the need for purpose for people, and he acknowledged that discipleship is necessary to instill and develop it.
Walter was willing to sacrifice himself so that others might live.
The deliberate religious elements within the story are handled well, they are intellectually mature. They reflect, and thus add to, the story line, they don't contradict it.
RE: The movie thread - flyingswoosh - 07-06-2010 04:13 PM
(07-06-2010 02:03 PM)DrTorch Wrote:
what he said
RE: The movie thread - PirateTreasureNC - 07-06-2010 09:16 PM
Not saying you guys didn't back up your opinion but I would consider a messiah as a person who is foretold to assist a troubled people with possible divine intervention to get him to the people and/or get people to believe in him. And I would doubt any messiah would down people like Clint's character did to almost everyone in the movie sans his himself. I agree that he had a change of heart once he finally warmed up to his neighbors and the aiding of the young Asian guy helped him recover some of his long forgotten compassion for others.
RE: The movie thread - Lush - 07-06-2010 11:48 PM
Your five films that we need to see: (I make an effort to view as many films as possible )
2) City of God
3) Waltz With Bashir (the most powerful film I've ever seen)
4) Dr. Strangelove
5) Man on Wire