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Latest Update on the Bowl Situation - SF Husky - 08-21-2009 04:21 AM Excellent writeup from the WVU newspaper. http://www.dailymail.com/Sports/WVUSports/200908210010 Bottom line is the following: 1. SUN/ACC is not a final deal. BE is still pursuing it. 2. Several bowls have called the BE about the #3 spot. 3. Car Care will have to increase its current payout of $1M quite a bit to get the #3 spot. 4. BE is also talking to Independence and Eagle Bowl about the 4-6 spot. Things aren't as bleak as some of the anti-BE posters or all the negative Nancys here have stated. It is a fluid situation and things can change any minute. Quote:Later, Gator - Big East not crying crocodile tears RE: Latest Update on the Bowl Situation - Ring of Black - 08-21-2009 06:09 AM That is an excellent article. Bogaczyk manages to lament the loss of the Gator, while acknowledging it's better for the BE overall (unlike some of the selfish WV writers), specifically in destination quality and the reduced ND ties. He also confirms some's thoughts on the Meineke and upping the ante for BE #3. My feelings: - By the time the B-12 juggles their bowl lineup, what's going to be left in the Ind Bowl? If it's like a #8-9, I'm not sure we just don't stick with the Pizza. I guess money talks, but Shreveport seems like a real pain for fans to get to. - I wonder why he didn't mention the Music City Bowl. I think we're unanimously in favor of trying for that bowl as #3. Maybe it was just a case of the author being non-specific? - EagleBank? Do we really want to play Navy in a bowl? Or another ACC team? I guess either beats a MAC #2/3 or C-USA #4/5, or whatever... RE: Latest Update on the Bowl Situation - goodknightfl - 08-21-2009 06:41 AM I tend to believe the BE will end up ok in these bowls. RE: Latest Update on the Bowl Situation - omniorange - 08-21-2009 07:01 AM Most important news of this article: "It figures to take the BCS conferences from this past BCS season's $18.67 million minimum (for one bid) upwards of $22 million annually." For 12 team conferences that is basically a $300K increase per team but for the Big East, that is nearly a $500K increase per team. And the Big East was already third in terms of total net bowl revenue. Cheers, Neil RE: Latest Update on the Bowl Situation - TIGER-PAUL - 08-21-2009 04:00 PM sun bowl said they should finalize deal by early next week. Might hear some movement after that. RE: Latest Update on the Bowl Situation - Bearcat 1984 - 08-21-2009 10:23 PM History aside, El Paso is a hole. I've been there. I lived nearby. It's a hole. Much better to be out on the west coast with Holiday Bowls, Emerald Nuts Bowls, or back east in the relative civilization of the South, then to be in the god-forsaken mountains of west Texas. In order of preference for #3: Music City : SEC opponent and $1.6 million Independence Bowl: SEC or B12 opponent and $1.1 million Meineke Bowl: ACC opponent and $1 million RE: Latest Update on the Bowl Situation - PirateMarv - 08-21-2009 11:19 PM (08-21-2009 10:23 PM)Bearcat 1984 Wrote: History aside, El Paso is a hole. I've been there. I lived nearby... Nearby? Alright I have been through El Paso a few times and I am not trying to be mean, but what is nearby? Juarez, Mexico? Because other than that, all that I saw was the New Mexico State line. RE: Latest Update on the Bowl Situation - SF Husky - 08-21-2009 11:24 PM I been to El Paso once. All I got to say is I am glad I don't live there. Seriously, Bearcat 1984 is right that both Holiday and Emerald would be much better destinations. San Diego is an awesome city. SF is the BEST city in the USA. One of these days they will establish a big bowl in the Bay Area. Stanford just rebuilt their stadium and CAL is on their way. In the next few years, SF 49ers will get a brand new NFL stadium as well. I am sure there will be a big bowl here someday other than Emerald. RE: Latest Update on the Bowl Situation - Native Georgian - 08-22-2009 12:01 AM (08-21-2009 11:19 PM)PirateMarv Wrote: Nearby? Alright I have been through El Paso a few times and I am not trying to be mean, but what is nearby? Juarez, Mexico? Because other than that, all that I saw was the New Mexico State line.He may have been talking about Fort Bliss. RE: Latest Update on the Bowl Situation - Wilkie01 - 08-22-2009 07:19 AM Fort Bliss is a hell hole of a post! RE: Latest Update on the Bowl Situation - CatsClaw - 08-22-2009 07:25 AM I think goodknight is right, we'll be fine. But I REALLY would like for the Big East to get the Sun Bowl for our #3 slot. I'm guessing that the Sun Bowl is holding out for the Big East to add Notre Dame twice or for the Sun Bowl to get early dibs at Notre Dame. I wonder what bowls are calling about our #3 spot though? It goes to show that we don't need the Liberty Bowl right now, or unnecessary expansion. I'm also pleased to see that the Big East is looking to significantly improve our 4 to 6 slots. RE: Latest Update on the Bowl Situation - TIGER-PAUL - 08-22-2009 07:26 AM problem with independence is not gauranteed sec/b12 will always have a team right now. RE: Latest Update on the Bowl Situation - Cubanbull - 08-22-2009 07:26 AM I think Sun Bowl is gone. But I think BE could get Music Bowl for our #3 vs SEC RE: Latest Update on the Bowl Situation - Garmuck - 08-22-2009 07:30 AM (08-22-2009 07:26 AM)Cubanbull Wrote: I think Sun Bowl is gone. But I think BE could get Music Bowl for our #3 vs SEC What # SEC team would we face and could you give me a general idea of recent match ups? Either way playing an SEC team would be awesome and a top priority in my mind. RE: Latest Update on the Bowl Situation - CatsClaw - 08-22-2009 07:33 AM (08-22-2009 07:26 AM)Cubanbull Wrote: I think Sun Bowl is gone. But I think BE could get Music Bowl for our #3 vs SEC I'd take it as long as the payout is in the 2 million dollar range and we're guaranteed a slot against a Top 6 SEC squad. RE: Latest Update on the Bowl Situation - Cubanbull - 08-22-2009 07:39 AM Right now Music pays 1.7 mill Meineke pays 1.0 mill the Sun paid 1.9 mill RE: Latest Update on the Bowl Situation - Native Georgian - 08-22-2009 07:45 AM (08-22-2009 07:30 AM)Garmuck Wrote: What # SEC team would we face and could you give me a general idea of recent match ups? Either way playing an SEC team would be awesome and a top priority in my mind.2005 = SEC did not have enough eligible teams and so Virginia (6-5, 3-5 in ACC) took the SEC's slot 2006 = Kentucky (7-5, 4-4 in SEC) 2007 = Kentucky (7-5, 3-5 in SEC) 2008 = Vanderbilt (6-6, 4-4 in SEC) RE: Latest Update on the Bowl Situation - panite - 08-22-2009 07:45 AM (08-22-2009 07:26 AM)TIGER-PAUL Wrote: problem with independence is not gauranteed sec/b12 will always have a team right now. SEC hasn't shown up at that cheap paying PaPa Johns Bowl either and they are listed as the oppossing conference. Better to not play the SEC in the Independence for 1.1 miilion then to not play them in PJ Bowl for 300k because they don't have enough bowl eligible teams to cover their contracted bowls. RE: Latest Update on the Bowl Situation - TIGER-PAUL - 08-22-2009 07:49 AM agree, its an upgrade over pizza, but below music or emerald for BE, imo. RE: Latest Update on the Bowl Situation - quo vadis - 08-22-2009 08:49 AM (08-22-2009 07:49 AM)TIGER-PAUL Wrote: agree, its an upgrade over pizza, but below music or emerald for BE, imo. Yes, but really, comparing the relative merits of pizzy, indy, and emerald bowls is splitting hairs. They are all low-level marginal bowls. FWIW, of those three, i'd see the independence is best. It's the oldest and most well-known, and it pays marginally the most money. Pizza and St Pete are arguably the worst bowls out there, toilet bowls really. |