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For those into the WVU vs RichRod stuff...this is a must read - Jackson1011 - 04-17-2008 08:35 PM For those that don't know...Larry Aschebrook was the head of the Moutaineer Athletic Club which is a fund raising organization. Yesterday, former assistant coach Cavlin Magee said it was Aschebrook who made the rascist statement about WVU and an Africian American head caoch. In response, Mr. Aschebrook lawyers have released his sworn statement in the case. This is great reading! Most interesting part is when RR and Magee openly say they will feed info to be printed to Chuck Finder of the Pittsburgh Post Gazette. Finder has recently written several articles that attacked WVU on the RR issue. Many assumed that he was mearly a mouthpiece for the RR camp, but this seems to confirm everything http://dailymail.com/static/AschebrookAff.pdf Jackson RE: For those into the WVU vs RichRod stuff...this is a must read - Tigeer - 04-17-2008 08:59 PM This is all he said/she said at this point. The lawyers will sort it out. Bottom line is RRod is an ass that thought he was going to win it all at WVU and he wiffed. Now he is trying to blame everyone and pull anyone into it that can make it seem like he did all he could do. He has gone from from a hero in the State to a zero - he will never get that back and he knows it. May Michigan regret their hire. RE: For those into the WVU vs RichRod stuff...this is a must read - Wilkie01 - 04-17-2008 09:39 PM You signed it RR and the interest is accruing. Pay your debt and quit being a liar, RR! RE: For those into the WVU vs RichRod stuff...this is a must read - SoCalPanther - 04-18-2008 03:58 AM Jackson1011 Wrote:For those that don't know...Larry Aschebrook was the head of the Moutaineer Athletic Club which is a fund raising organization. Yesterday, former assistant coach Cavlin Magee said it was Aschebrook who made the rascist statement about WVU and an Africian American head caoch. In response, Mr. Aschebrook lawyers have released his sworn statement in the case. Thanks for posting it Jackson! Certainly some intersting info in there - especially about Chuck Finder. RE: For those into the WVU vs RichRod stuff...this is a must read - bitcruncher - 04-18-2008 10:23 AM Not only that, but the WVU Foundation wants Rodriguez to pay $30,000 for dragging them into the lawsuit over his buyout... http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3351570 And here's another little tidbit on the story... Affidavit: Accused worker says Rodriguez offered job assistance RE: For those into the WVU vs RichRod stuff...this is a must read - Krocker Krapp - 04-18-2008 03:35 PM If what Larry Aschebrook says is true, the Rich Rodriguez camp stooped to a new low, and that was already pretty difficult. Accusing someone of making a racist remark he says he did not make and then telling him "not to worry because they will find him another job" is a terribly immoral thing to do. Rich Rodriguez obviously did not appreciate Larry Aschebrook "being loyal" one iota if he was so willing to use him as a pawn in his public relations campaign against WVU and throw his career under the bus so easily. Allegations of racism, even if later proven untrue, can damage a reputation forever. RE: For those into the WVU vs RichRod stuff...this is a must read - usffan - 04-19-2008 06:46 AM So now both Greg Frey and Calvin Magee, two coaches that Rodriguez hired away from USF, are implicated in this. I think a little karma might be at play here... USFFan RE: For those into the WVU vs RichRod stuff...this is a must read - bitcruncher - 04-19-2008 08:33 AM What goes around, comes around... RE: For those into the WVU vs RichRod stuff...this is a must read - Wilkie01 - 04-19-2008 08:41 AM I have a picture of RR: RE: For those into the WVU vs RichRod stuff...this is a must read - bitcruncher - 04-19-2008 08:59 AM Nah. He ain't that good lookin' RE: For those into the WVU vs RichRod stuff...this is a must read - Wilkie01 - 04-19-2008 09:12 AM :youmoron: :clap2: :uberbow: RE: For those into the WVU vs RichRod stuff...this is a must read - Jugnaut - 04-19-2008 05:25 PM Interesting Opinion from CFN: Last week I remarked that West Virginia fans need to just let it go about Rich Rodriguez leaving for West Virginia. The responses were, well, interesting. Let it go? Let it go?! The guy owes us $4 million dollars and stabbed us in the back? Pay us our money and live up to your contract with YOU signed. He’s a weasel and he’s trying to get out of paying what’s rightly ours. Let me guess, if it was the other way around you’d be screaming the WVU owes him. – SL You obviously don't know West Virginia and what it means to be a West Virginian. The way Rich left was horrible. He lied to all of us. He called Terrell Pryor and told him he was going to Michigan before he told his own players, his boss and the West Virginia fans. Many of us got together and scraped up a lot of money to keep him here and he said he was here for a long time. He signed a contract. He crapped on us. He turned his back on his own state. He could have been up front with everything. No. He decided to be a lying snake, secure another job, tell recruits and attempt to get them headed to Michigan on WVU's time, before he tells a soul here in West Virginia. The same West Virginia who ponied up and met his demands just a year prior. He cries about the buyout? If he had stayed, the buyout was scheduled to drop to 2 million in August of this year. Well, if he would just pay WVU what it is owed, then that would give me some personal satisfaction, knowing how bad that hurts him to part with that kind of cash. Let him feel that pain. If or when he does, he can multiply that by 10 and then he will know how this state felt when he did what he did to this state, our school, our players and the fans. - CC You don’t get West Virginia and you obviously never will. It takes something special to live here. It’s a special place. We don't have much here, so the football program means everything. Of course, you’d never get that. You probably wouldn’t understand a tough life. Your a joke and so is your anti-Mountaineer bias. – FK You outsiders should just keep your thoughts about West Virginia to yourself. This is a hard place and our football program is our identity and our passion. We don’t have the lifestyle here other places have. So you better show West Virginia some respect or I wouldn’t show my face around here if I were you. And if you do, you’d better look both ways before crossing the street. - Anonymous You have no idea of the pride of West Virginians and what it means to live in West Virginia. But that isn't what this is about. Unless you're a West Virginian, or you've lived here, you'll never get it anyway. - KG First of all, did I say anything about the state of West Virginia? Analyzing the football program and saying something about the place are two completely different things (yes, they are), even though fans like to tie the two together. Second, don’t give me this line about it being West Virginia and somehow West Virginians have some sort of toughness and honor that no outsider could comprehend. Everyone from every state thinks that way. You’re proud of where you’re from. So are Iowans and New Yorkers and Hawaiians and Californians. The excitement is fine, but you can’t thump your chest with this “you wouldn’t understand it” state pride and then keep complaining that it’s a rough place to live. You can’t have it both ways. And finally, I’m not saying whether or not Rich Rodriguez is right or wrong or whether he’s a good guy or bad. I’m not defending him and I’m not taking his side. He’s a terrific football coach. Period. That’s all he is. Everything else is just corporate legal BS and it really doesn’t matter in your world, even if you think it does. This has nothing to do with the money. You can use that as something tangible for your anger, but that’s not why you’re having problems with this. Rodriguez doesn’t owe you. It’s not your money, and spare me the self-righteous garbage about being a tax payer blah, blah, blah. You’d be dead from a stroke if you really cared this much about every bad government or university contract that eats away at your tax dollars. Even if Rodriguez paid back every cent with a smile, you’d still be upset that one of your own rejected you. If you’re angry at the snipping, that’s another story. Here was a coach who took what Don Nehlen had started and made it better. I know, Mountaineer football had its moments under Nehlen and had chances to win national titles in 1988 and 1993, but that ’88 team beat one team with a pulse (Syracuse) before losing to Notre Dame in the Fiesta Bowl, and the ’93 team barely got by its four good games before getting blasted by Florida in the Sugar Bowl. No one actually respected West Virginia football since it got rocked every time the bowls kicked in. Rodriguez changed that. With the 2006 Sugar Bowl win over Georgia, in Atlanta no less, the Mountaineers joined the world of the truly big-time programs. That wasn’t just any team WVU beat; that was the SEC champ in its own house. Now the program really was a national title contender and wasn’t just in the hunt based on a fat record against mediocre competition. The entire state had something to get really fired up about, and its fan base, who’s not used to the scrutiny that comes with the spotlight (ask me sometime about the time spent trying to keep Marshall fans in check when they thought their team was of national title stock) went crazy at anyone who dared speak in anything other than glowing terms when it came to their pride and joy. Then Rodriguez, who had the program on the cusp of playing for the national championship before blowing it against Pitt, leaves for Michigan. It’s not like he pulled a Dennis Franchione and left Alabama for Texas A&M, at best a lateral move. Whether or not you believe it, the Michigan job is one of the biggest in all of sports and one of the crown jewels among coaches. WVU fans, you have to understand that no coach ever, EVER leaves gracefully, and no coach ever, EVER knows how to handle it right. Sure, it would’ve been nice if Rodriguez was up front and honest about everything, but coaches can’t be … to a point. They can’t talk about another job and then be all smiles and happiness when it doesn’t work out (cough, Glen Mason at Minnesota when he wanted the Ohio State job, cough). That kills recruiting and becomes a mega-distraction and a ridiculous circus (cough, Les Miles, cough). Had LSU not played for the national title, Miles would’ve ended up being the Michigan head football coach, Rodriguez would’ve stayed at West Virginia, and none of this would’ve happened. But it did, you have a new head man, and while the program might not be as good over the long haul, it’ll be fine for now. Fine, so you wish Rodriguez handled everything better and showed more respect to the University and to West Virginia. Now be the better man, or fans, and take the high road. Instead of getting all hot and bothered, you should be happy Rodriguez made your program matter. You should be happy that West Virginia football is such a big deal. You should be happy at all the fun memories you had when he was the head man. You should realize that this is big business and that your company lost its CEO and replaced him with another good one who should be able to keep the train rolling. You should wish Rodriguez well at Michigan, because for better or worse, he still represents you. You should let it all go and enjoy what should be a fantastic 2008 season. Feel better? No? Fine, you may now commence with your usual barrage of grouchy and misguided “CFN hates West Virginia” e-mails. RE: For those into the WVU vs RichRod stuff...this is a must read - bitcruncher - 04-19-2008 06:53 PM The writer obviously just singled out those letters that he felt would put his side of the story in the best light. He was diplomatic enough not to choose the more antagonistic letters, which I'm sure there were a plenty. But still, the letters he choose, and the sequence in which they were laid in within the story, leads the reader to forget the points raised in the first 2 letters. The writer then proceeds to attack his main point, and later tries to tell us that the contract signed by Rodriguez, and his dishonorable method of exit from Morgantown are irrelevant because he's such a good coach and without him WVU is nothing. Screw him. RE: For those into the WVU vs RichRod stuff...this is a must read - frogman - 04-19-2008 10:38 PM Just read the latest update on ESPN. http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3351487 At this point "Who gives a hoot?" I back WVU but DickRod is so crazy I might let him keep the $4 million just to not associate with HIM. I think Rod just ended his career when he left WVU. I think the school is better off without him. This guy is like in his own world crazy. banannas and in way over his head. Michigan fans must be scratching their heads. Read the comments posted by ESPN readers at the end of this story.[/i] RE: For those into the WVU vs RichRod stuff...this is a must read - KnightLight - 04-19-2008 10:58 PM Jackson1011 Wrote:Most interesting part is when RR and Magee openly say they will feed info to be printed to Chuck Finder of the Pittsburgh Post Gazette. Finder has recently written several articles that attacked WVU on the RR issue. Many assumed that he was mearly a mouthpiece for the RR camp, but this seems to confirm everything That's not totally unusual. Many teams have their selected paper/reporter they feed info to first...either be it because of a business relationship (i.e. some papers are the "official" papers of the Athletic Dept...like the St Pete Times is the "official" paper of USF Athletics and the St Pete Times PAYS USF $$$$$ each year). Other times...its because of previous relationships...i.e. like former Jax Times Union reporter and current Orlando Sentinel columnist Mike Bianchi and his old pal, Steve Spurrier. This goes on at most big schools...nothing too unusual about it. papers use schools to gain readers...and schools in return sometimes "use" the papers by getting their message across. RE: For those into the WVU vs RichRod stuff...this is a must read - Krocker Krapp - 04-20-2008 12:25 AM Chuck Finder may have some serious issues coming up, however, because he constantly used Mike Brown, the agent for Rich Rodriguez, as a primary source and was blatantly lied to several times. The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette is not too happy about how that piece of information has come out in the midst of this mess. RE: For those into the WVU vs RichRod stuff...this is a must read - bitcruncher - 04-20-2008 08:38 AM Chuck Finder is about to be sued. Bet on it. A lot of the stuff he's been fed from Rodriguez is erroneous, or untrue, and he knows it. It won't be long before the rope he's being fed is yanked, and he'll be in deep doo doo. Calvin McGhee may have ended his career too with his false accusation against Aschebrooke. Coach Frey may have done so as well. I ran across this... The Daily Atheneum Wrote:Another piece to the endless saga RE: For those into the WVU vs RichRod stuff...this is a must read - frogman - 04-20-2008 10:32 AM This is how sex with an intern almost gets a president impeached or how trading stocks gets Martha Stewart time in the big house. Where there is a court case pending and you lie or you tell other people to lie that's called obstruction of justice. Talking the media is not the crime but lying and filling out false complaints and causing justice to investigate a complaint you know is false is how McGee, Brown, RR and a bunch of other people can all find themselves in front of a judge some day talking about wh said what and who told whom to say what. This is how a $4 million fine over a buyout clause becomes something bigger and before you know it, $4 million is the least of RR's problems. RR's whole camp need to just shut up. Don't say another word about anything. I don't like him already but I'd hate to see this fool get in more trouble than even he deserves. RE: For those into the WVU vs RichRod stuff...this is a must read - bitcruncher - 04-24-2008 03:21 PM The never-ending story continues... The Charleston Gazette Wrote:Rodriguez saga is tiresomeRodriguez should pay up now, while he can. RE: For those into the WVU vs RichRod stuff...this is a must read - frogman - 04-24-2008 04:57 PM If Rod apraoched Michigan 10 day after the Pitt loss in December, that means Michigan was not really looking at Rod. Rod probably saw the opportunity because Mich wanted the LSU coach but now that coach was playing for the national title Rod should have been playing for. It's funny to hear the michicgan fans sing the praises of Rod when the truth is they really didn't want him at all. He was a snap judgment that fell into their lap. Now he may have been on their short list- but it seems that they would not have called him prior to WVU's Bowl game against Okl. I say this because I believe Mich has some class. Rod has none. Rod may not last the year at Mich. He has no quarterback and this lawsuit is going to damage his reputation beyond repair. The buyout works both ways so that means that while WVU was holding Rod in "slavery", Rod was holding WVU in "slavery"- Go figure. Jugnaut: It's good that you got all the WVU fans figured out. So why do you care? Wha'ts your concern if WVU collects what they are owed or not. Personally, I think you analysis is pure B.S. WVU has a right to collect $4 million and the interest. The law is the law and a deal is a deal. Let's see what the courts say. |