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Ohio Valley Conf - football no longer required.... - OrangeCamel - 01-19-2008 12:10 PM
...the can of worms is now open! And, it's a big one!
RE: Ohio Valley Conf - football no longer required.... - OrangeCamel - 01-19-2008 01:05 PM
A few OVC tidbits:
The OVC will be reduced to 10 members after Samford moves to the SoCon next year. The remaining schools are all public. The conference office is in Nashville. ETSU was in the OVC years ago. Jax State might be exploring a move to FBS.
RE: Ohio Valley Conf - football no longer required.... - BredsVoice - 01-19-2008 04:46 PM
As a Murray St. fan, I'd like for the OVC to look at Belmont, Lipscomb and ETSU.
Also, SIU-Edwardsville, Northern Kentucky, Evansville, and North Alabama have been discussed.
The OVC did this with schools in mind, they wouldn't have done it, just to do it.
RE: Ohio Valley Conf - football no longer required.... - Krocker Krapp - 01-20-2008 01:15 PM
I feel this is a mistake on the part of the OVC. Conference members should be as similar as possible whenever possible. Adding non-football schools could start to seriously erode their brand identity. I agree that the OVC obviously has some non-football schools in mind, hence the rule change, but I am not sure this is the best path for them to pursue. Only time will bear the situation out for sure, though, and it is always possible that I could be proven wrong on this matter. We will see.
RE: Ohio Valley Conf - football no longer required.... - chargeradio - 01-20-2008 09:25 PM
Morehead State plays Pioneer League football, so perhaps they were the school in mind? Obviously this helps Jacksonville State if they drink the FBS Kool Aid and can't find a primary home (MAC football #14?).
I don't think Belmont or Lipscomb would be a wise add to the conference unless if Tennessee State also leaves the conference, because the OVC already has a presence in Nashville.
The football requirement out of the way is a major gift to SIU-Edwardsville; the only question is can they bring along Western Illinois (who would have to move football too since the OVC sponsors it). Likewise, it is also a gift to Northern Kentucky who may again decide to study Division I membership. Bellarmine hasn't officially made any noise about going Division I, but would probably be the only private school the OVC seriously considered.
Chicago State wouldn't be my first choice, but is a viable option. The OVC would add a school with a similar profile to TSU, and one that isn't that far removed from the rest of the conference. Chicago State would be a little more palatable if the OVC were to add another school in Illinois:
North - Chicago State, SIU-E/WIU, Southeast Missouri State, Eastern Kentucky, Morehead State, Eastern Illinois
South - Murray State, Austin Peay, Tennessee State, Tennessee Tech, Chattanooga, Jacksonville State
Chicago State also adds exposure (albeit not that much) in basketball-rich Chicago. Having the OVC tournament in Chicago could do a lot for basketball recruiting.
Centenary is just too far from the rest of the conference. If the OVC somehow winds up with UALR, then Centenary might be an option, but UALR to the Summit would be more likely (i.e., Sun Belt requires FBS football). Central Arkansas would be a better pick for the OVC, but UCA just joined the Southland.
ETSU is probably the next school in the conference.
RE: Ohio Valley Conf - football no longer required.... - BredsVoice - 01-21-2008 11:16 PM
Here's what I think the OVC has in mind. The OVC currently has 11 members. Until now, they said that they were not going to add any schools when Samford departed. But with Samford leaving, there goes JSU's travel partner. Also, JSU is thinking about going to FBS football (Don't know why except for money). That leaves us 9 members.
Right now we have a 20 game conference schedule, which KILLS rpi. I believe that the OVC should add 2 members when Samford leaves and then replace JSU when they leaves.
BTW Charger, Chattanooga has already turned us down recently and you forgot Martin.
I'd say this:
North- Murray State, Eastern KY, Eastern Ill, Morehead St., SEMO, UT Martin
South-Tennessee Tech, Austin Peay, Tennessee St, Belmont, Lipscomb, ETSU
RE: Ohio Valley Conf - football no longer required.... - Nick M - 01-22-2008 09:08 AM
BredsVoice Wrote:Also, JSU is thinking about going to FBS football (Don't know why except for money).
That made me laugh. Why else would they go? If it's not direct money from the program it's the money from the exposure.
RE: Ohio Valley Conf - football no longer required.... - BredsVoice - 01-22-2008 11:34 AM
Yes but when you don't win, your attendance isn't very good.
To be FBS, you have to mantain certain attendance standards and I don't see them keeping up with that.
RE: Ohio Valley Conf - football no longer required.... - Nick M - 01-22-2008 11:36 AM
It could be argued that playing higher caliber teams known nationwide would bring more attendance and more pride from alumni. I agree, if you don't win, it's difficult.
RE: Ohio Valley Conf - football no longer required.... - OrangeCamel - 01-22-2008 01:49 PM
Jax State is probably chasing Troy in their FBS dreams. They seem FCS to me, though.
Assuming this decision by the OVC is geared toward expansion (and not internal issues w/ JSU, Morehead, and Tenn State), I can definitely see the A-Sun's Tennessee schools moving over. We'll have to wait and see how many and which ones. I read that JSU's feasibility study findings will be released next week and that might determine numbers.
If only one, I'd say ETSU. It gets interesting if it's two, though....Belmont/Lipscomb? Belmont/ETSU? Three might get complicated by SIU-Edwardsville, North Alabama, and others that could come aboard after the moratorium is lifted.
My main concern is the A-Sun's auto-bid. What exactly is the current NCAA continuity rule....6 schools together for 5 years?