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RE: UVA loss, ODU's gain?
This is a long-shot, but if Wilder were to depart for UVA (which he shouldn't), what are the chances of Brian Scott (OC) or even Ron Whitcomb (QB coach) replacing him here at ODU? Both in my opinion are fine coaches. Whitcomb is what, 29 or 30 and was able to take a punter turned QB in Thomas DeMarco and polish him up to land in the CFL and now with Taylor Heinicke and everything he has been able to do, and I've even seen flashes from David Washington this year and Nate Ong last year. Maybe I'm off in crazy land, but there is my hope for post Wilder ODU.
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(11-05-2013 09:44 AM)Monarch2014 Wrote:  This is a long-shot, but if Wilder were to depart for UVA (which he shouldn't), what are the chances of Brian Scott (OC) or even Ron Whitcomb (QB coach) replacing him here at ODU? Both in my opinion are fine coaches. Whitcomb is what, 29 or 30 and was able to take a punter turned QB in Thomas DeMarco and polish him up to land in the CFL and now with Taylor Heinicke and everything he has been able to do, and I've even seen flashes from David Washington this year and Nate Ong last year. Maybe I'm off in crazy land, but there is my hope for post Wilder ODU.

Scott and Whitcomb would go and take giant pay raises. And our AD wouldn't likely pass up the opportunity to search for the next big thing.

Hopefully we don't have to worry about any of that.
11-05-2013 10:05 AM
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(11-05-2013 09:44 AM)Monarch2014 Wrote:  This is a long-shot, but if Wilder were to depart for UVA (which he shouldn't), what are the chances of Brian Scott (OC) or even Ron Whitcomb (QB coach) replacing him here at ODU? Both in my opinion are fine coaches. Whitcomb is what, 29 or 30 and was able to take a punter turned QB in Thomas DeMarco and polish him up to land in the CFL and now with Taylor Heinicke and everything he has been able to do, and I've even seen flashes from David Washington this year and Nate Ong last year. Maybe I'm off in crazy land, but there is my hope for post Wilder ODU.

Would be a natural progression with Whitcomb. 04-cheers
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RE: UVA loss, ODU's gain?
UVA may not want Wilder without Whitcomb. He becomes less valuable.
11-05-2013 10:11 AM
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Scott and Whitcomb would be at the top of the list to replace Wilder.
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(11-05-2013 10:24 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Scott and Whitcomb would be at the top of the list to replace Wilder.

Whitcomb? A QB coach ascending to become the CEO of a top 50-100 FBS program? Wilder has elevated this job and athletic department. If he left he would take his lieutenants and there would be a national search targeting guys with head coaching experience.
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(11-05-2013 10:29 AM)ODUR8R Wrote:  
(11-05-2013 10:24 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Scott and Whitcomb would be at the top of the list to replace Wilder.

Whitcomb? A QB coach ascending to become the CEO of a top 50-100 FBS program? Wilder has elevated this job and athletic department. If he left he would take his lieutenants and there would be a national search targeting guys with head coaching experience.


Why are you speaking in such absolutes? How do you know the next coach would need head coaching experience?

With the success of the offense, those two would certainly get looks/interviews. And I'm sure if they were offered the job, they would accept head coaching position over a coordinators job.
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Did you pay attention to our last major coaching vacancy?
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(11-05-2013 10:40 AM)ODUR8R Wrote:  Did you pay attention to our last major coaching vacancy?


So bc of that every coach hired from this point in the future will go the same way?
11-05-2013 10:52 AM
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I've made my points. We all really like Whitcomb. If Wilder were to leave he would be taking Whitcomb because that school would also want Whitcomb. It's a huge leap to assume that Wood Selig would consider Whitcomb a candidate for this position and not conduct his own national search and hire his own guy. That is his track record and all we have to go on.
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I don't think London will be fired this season. He's owed a ton of money, and his incomming recruiting class is pretty solid with 2 five-star verbals already. Many recruits would likely change their minds if a coaching change were made at UVA. If this pattern of losing extends into next season, he'll definietly be on the hot seat.

I also don't think BW wants to go anywhere at this point. His desire to see ODU through the transition from start up to FBS level may be great enough for him to deter any potential job offers through at least next season. Leaving now would leave unfinished business. If we compete at a high level next season and if we're able to make a run at the CUSA title in our first season, then he'll have schools lining up to interview him.
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(11-05-2013 11:59 AM)Monarchy Anarchy Wrote:  I don't think London will be fired this season. He's owed a ton of money, and his incomming recruiting class is pretty solid with 2 five-star verbals already. Many recruits would likely change their minds if a coaching change were made at UVA. If this pattern of losing extends into next season, he'll definietly be on the hot seat.

I also don't think BW wants to go anywhere at this point. His desire to see ODU through the transition from start up to FBS level may be great enough for him to deter any potential job offers through at least next season. Leaving now would leave unfinished business. If we compete at a high level next season and if we're able to make a run at the CUSA title in our first season, then he'll have schools lining up to interview him.

If UVA offered he would go. IMHO this will not happen.
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I've got the best replacement for Wilder and company. CEO millionaire Coastal Carolina football coach he has his team ranked top 5 this year in FCS
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Why are we even discussiing replacing Wilder on this forum? There is no indication of his pending departure. In fact, there is every indication of his intent to stay with ODU for the long-term. Our time would be better spent sending him emails letting him know how much we appreciate him with info copies to Wood Selig.
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(11-05-2013 12:28 PM)AimHigh Wrote:  I've got the best replacement for Wilder and company. CEO millionaire Coastal Carolina football coach he has his team ranked top 5 this year in FCS

Joe Moglia, before become the head Coach at Coastal Carolina had a brief connection to the Hampton Roads Area. In November of 2010, he was named as the head coach of the new United Football League franchise, the Virginia Destroyers. On January 12, 2011 he was then named President and head coach of the Omaha Nighthawks, whose venue is TD Ameritrade Park, which was built for 131 million with a current capacity of 24,505 (expandable to 35,000) in Omaha.

link for stadium ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TD_Ameritrade_Park_Omaha

In his seven years at TD Ameritrade, Moglia and his executive management team oversaw the company as its client assets grew from $24 billion to over $300 billion, increased its market capitalization from $700 million to $12 billion. His last year as the CEO of TD Ameritrade he earned a total Compensation of $9,936,460.00 and still collects almost a 1,000,000.00 a year in residual income and is paid a Chairman's salary of $800,00.00 a year as well..

He also has a current stock holding with TD Ameritrade of 1 million shares. Valued (2013) at $1.31 per share ($1,310,000.00 ) and a yearly shared earning revenue of $340,000.00 ($ .33) per share.

Link Forbes Executive Salaries 2009 ..... http://www.forbes.com/profile/joseph-moglia/

Joe Moglia, became the HC of the Coastal Carolina Chanticleers on December 20, 2011. Moglia has remained the current Chairman of TD Ameritrade. In his first season at Coastal, he led the team to win the 2012 Big South Conference Championship and was named 2012 Big South Conference Coach of the Year. This is just his 2nd year at Coastal.

Moglia earned his bachelor's degree in economics from Fordham University, his master's degree in secondary education from the University of Delaware and was a football coach for 16 years, finishing as the defensive coordinator at Dartmouth College from 1981-1983.

Interesting......... Aim High
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(11-05-2013 02:01 PM)ODU AGGIE Wrote:  Why are we even discussiing replacing Wilder on this forum? There is no indication of his pending departure. In fact, there is every indication of his intent to stay with ODU for the long-term. Our time would be better spent sending him emails letting him know how much we appreciate him with info copies to Wood Selig.

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(11-05-2013 02:01 PM)ODU AGGIE Wrote:  Why are we even discussiing replacing Wilder on this forum? There is no indication of his pending departure. In fact, there is every indication of his intent to stay with ODU for the long-term. Our time would be better spent sending him emails letting him know how much we appreciate him with info copies to Wood Selig.

Yes. This kind of talk belongs on the JMU forum.
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The sports section of today's USA Today (11/7/13) has a list of the total compensation received by all DI football coaches, including Bobby Wilder. Boy, what a wake up call. Bobby's compensation is in the neighborhood of $450k. Mike London's compensation totals over $2.4 Million (working off memory here).

I understand that there are more to jobs than just money, but it would be really hard to walk away from a $2 Million pay raise and an increase in professional stature. I hope that doesn't happen anytime soon, but I would completely understand if it did. It's the nature of being a mid-major.

On the bright side, we've got a really good thing going here, so I think we would a very desirable job for a lot of talented coaches looking for their first HC gig. Change is always unsettling...but it often is good and healthy.

For the long-term, we need to continue to grow our FB program and brand so that we're a destination school vs. a stepping stone. That's a monumental task, but certainly achieveable. Aim high!
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The best replacement for Wilder? That's what we're talking about? Hmm...

I'll bite.

My choice is easily Ron Whitcomb. I give him a LOT of credit for where we are right now. Not only can he recruit and coach QBs, but I honestly believe he's largely responsible for our prolific offense; He's Bobby's protege. I just hope he doesn't leave before he gets the opportunity to take the job here. I foresee Brian Scott leaving in the near future to take over another smaller program, and Whitcomb getting the nod at OC. And yes, folks, it will happen--Bobby is going to leave one day. I don't think he'll see the end of his contract here, so I'm going to enjoy the hell out of him while we've got him.
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