(02-26-2012 04:36 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(02-25-2012 12:13 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  

(02-23-2012 02:19 PM)indycat Wrote:  Temple brings Top 25 basketball with strong tradition. Owl football teams the past two years were better than any they fielded during their previous dismal run in the conference. Of the available programs, they're a good bet in a top five market. I'm sure it's a sad day on Victory Parkway too. The folks at X believe they're an academic and athletic peer of Notre Dame, Georgetown, 'Nova and Marquette. A double whammy as the best team leaves the hapless A-10 and reality hits for X--they will not be invited to the big boy table once again.

The Owl have yet to beat a MAC team with a winning record after 5 years in the Conference. 0-5 the past 2 seasons. The MAC East has been called the worst division in FBS FB.

Troll, troll, troll your boat. I know you're butthurt, but you'll get over it

Not exactly my friend. I was pretty tight with UC FB, BB players and staff during the Metro days. The two places I lived @UC -one was near Acropolis Chili and the other- Ohio Ave & McMillan. At one point, my bedroom window actually looked down into Nippert. Not exactly a troll.

Any word on Temple???
Last week there has an article about Boise being upset with the additions of Memphis
and Temple [they wanted more western teams].. They also have an out in their contract that would allow them to not join the BE without penalty.. That is why I think it makes sense to rethink the footprint of the league and consider East Carolina and Southern Miss..

East Carolina and Southern Miss are not in consideration now or anytime soon. If you put them anywhere other than Greenville and Hatiesburg and maybe they get a legitimate look. As long as their campuses are in those two cities, they do not add enough to the upcoming TV contract to be considered.

(03-06-2012 12:11 PM)KCat Wrote:  Any word on Temple???
Last week there has an article about Boise being upset with the additions of Memphis
and Temple [they wanted more western teams].. They also have an out in their contract that would allow them to not join the BE without penalty.. That is why I think it makes sense to rethink the footprint of the league and consider East Carolina and Southern Miss..

East Carolina and Southern Miss just scream out "Mid Major"

(03-06-2012 12:18 PM)subflea Wrote:  East Carolina and Southern Miss are not in consideration now or anytime soon. If you put them anywhere other than Greenville and Hatiesburg and maybe they get a legitimate look. As long as their campuses are in those two cities, they do not add enough to the upcoming TV contract to be considered.

I guess Gainesville with the 163rd TV would leave UF out. More to the picture than local media market size.

Boise can cry and go home, I hope they do eventually. Marshall and UMass are better fits than ECU and Southern Miss because they are in the footprint of the conference. Fight for a football playoff and make basketbal strong.

(03-06-2012 02:47 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  

(03-06-2012 12:18 PM)subflea Wrote:  East Carolina and Southern Miss are not in consideration now or anytime soon. If you put them anywhere other than Greenville and Hatiesburg and maybe they get a legitimate look. As long as their campuses are in those two cities, they do not add enough to the upcoming TV contract to be considered.

I guess Gainesville with the 163rd TV would leave UF out. More to the picture than local media market size.

You are really going to compare UF to Southern Miss and ECU? UF has a large market that extends outside Gainesville, USM and ECU, not so much. When it comes to the current expansion of the Big East, market size is by far one of the most important factors.

Temple's (reported) Big East Deal:
MAC gets $6 million, Big East gets Temple football for 2012
Temple gets $2.5 million loan from BE
A10 gets a year's notice and $1 million
Temple plays 2 hoop games vs. MAC teams and one football game vs. a MAC team (presumably UMass this season)

(03-06-2012 02:47 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  

(03-06-2012 12:18 PM)subflea Wrote:  East Carolina and Southern Miss are not in consideration now or anytime soon. If you put them anywhere other than Greenville and Hatiesburg and maybe they get a legitimate look. As long as their campuses are in those two cities, they do not add enough to the upcoming TV contract to be considered.

I guess Gainesville with the 163rd TV would leave UF out. More to the picture than local media market size.

I hope this was some attempt at humor.

Let em in and let's get em scheduled for NEXT YEAR....rather play Temple than a second FCS team

(03-06-2012 10:00 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Let em in and let's get em scheduled for NEXT YEAR....rather play Temple than a second FCS team

With Temple we still only have 11 games right now.

Sounds like Temple is a done deal for football for 2012, but probably not for the other sports until 2013. CBS reporting it.

http://brett-mcmurphy.blogs.cbssports.co...2/35126968


It's official.

I wish they could somehow figure out a way to pay the 2 million to the A-10 to get it done, but as long as the FB is good to go, I guess that's all that matters.
I'm excited to have another hometown team to watch UC games at.

For those who need a map Brett spells it out perfectly...

With Temple on board in 2012, the Big East’s football membership this fall will consist of Cincinnati, UConn, Louisville, Pittsburgh, Rutgers, South Florida, Syracuse and Temple. The 15-team basketball membership in 2012-13 will consist of: Cincinnati, UConn, Louisville, Pittsburgh, Rutgers, South Florida, Syracuse, DePaul, Georgetown, Marquette, Notre Dame, Providence, Seton Hall, St. John’s and Villanova.

The league will look much different in the 2013-14 school year. The football league could consist of up to 14 schools: Boise State, Cincinnati, UConn, Houston, Louisville, Memphis, Pittsburgh, Rutgers, San Diego State, SMU, South Florida, Syracuse, Temple and UCF. However, Pittsburgh and Syracuse, who are scheduled to leave for the ACC in 2014, want to exit the Big East in 2013. If they do leave early, it would drop the football membership to 12 schools.

If Pittsburgh and Syracuse remain in the Big East until 2014, the Big East's basketball league in 2013-14 would consist of 20 teams: Cincinnati, UConn, Houston, Louisville, Memphis, Pittsburgh, Rutgers, South Florida, SMU, Syracuse, Temple, UCF, DePaul, Georgetown, Marquette, Notre Dame, Providence, Seton Hall, St. John’s and Villanova. That number would be reduced to 18 basketball members if Pittsburgh and Syracuse left early.

Also, Navy will join the Big East as a football-only member in 2015.

I think the ACC recruited Syracuse and Pitt out of jealousy of always hearing how the current Big East is the greatest college basketball conference ever assembled. I don't see where either team bolsters ACC football that much. And I think moving to the ACC will slightly hurt them in basketball because Duke and UNC are the dominant teams which I don't see changing that much. I think being in the Big East and being northeastern schools, that Big East recruiting was better than recruiting to the ACC will be for both teams.

West Virginia might get left in the dust moving out to the B12. They are solid in both sports, but not top 10 material in any year.

The addition of Boise and Houston, both top 15 teams last year in football, will more than compensate for the losses of the 3 above teams. The addition of Memphis and Temple will definitely re-strengthen basketball.

I actually am starting to like the new Big East better than the current Big East, and I never thought I'd say that.

(03-06-2012 06:22 PM)Ragpicker Wrote:  

(03-06-2012 02:47 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  

(03-06-2012 12:18 PM)subflea Wrote:  East Carolina and Southern Miss are not in consideration now or anytime soon. If you put them anywhere other than Greenville and Hatiesburg and maybe they get a legitimate look. As long as their campuses are in those two cities, they do not add enough to the upcoming TV contract to be considered.

I guess Gainesville with the 163rd TV would leave UF out. More to the picture than local media market size.

I hope this was some attempt at humor.

Obviously, unless you're from Newport/Covington.

(03-07-2012 12:30 PM)BearChatter v2.0 Wrote:  I think the ACC recruited Syracuse and Pitt out of jealousy of always hearing how the current Big East is the greatest college basketball conference ever assembled. I don't see where either team bolsters ACC football that much. And I think moving to the ACC will slightly hurt them in basketball because Duke and UNC are the dominant teams which I don't see changing that much. I think being in the Big East and being northeastern schools, that Big East recruiting was better than recruiting to the ACC will be for both teams.

West Virginia might get left in the dust moving out to the B12. They are solid in both sports, but not top 10 material in any year.

The addition of Boise and Houston, both top 15 teams last year in football, will more than compensate for the losses of the 3 above teams. The addition of Memphis and Temple will definitely re-strengthen basketball.

I actually am starting to like the new Big East better than the current Big East, and I never thought I'd say that.

ACC didn't add either to bolster anything....in football cuse/pitt bring nothing to the table to the ACC which already has it's "power programs" Miami, FSU, Clemson, Gtech.

Cuse obviously is a great add for hoops (pitt to much lesser degree) but the ACC already has great name brand hoops recognition.

They added them for two reasons:

1. To destroy the BE
2. To help them sustain any losses they might incure to other conferences....right before the adding of cuse/pitt it was swirling FSU/Clemson to the SEC....

so they were preemptive...and killed two birds with one stone. They hurt the BE and at the same time, made it so if they lose two to a better conference they are still in good shape.

Power Play...hats off to the ACC for having the balls to pull it off