What people in the Big East don't seem to understand is that Houston and SMU have generally sucked at football over the last 15 years.

Us here in C-USA understand that ECU and Southern Miss have been the traditional bell cows in our conference.

Hell, as a Memphis fan I remember that there was a long period where we looked forward to playing the sucky programs like SMU and Houston but would always worry about ECU and Southern Miss.

So your problem is going to be when SMU and Houston go back to their regular ways of sucking and the Big East becomes more of a laughing stock. Meanwhile teams like ECU and Southern Miss return to more normal form and make the C-USA/ MWC more legitimate.

Now, I suppose the fact that the Big East label could possibly help them raise their level as it helped South Florida and Ciny..

It's quite a gamble however, given the many years of suckiness compared to the recent success.

Bitter much?

Don't you have an alliance to talk about?

everything is a gamble. SMU has been on the rise with June Jones, Houston as well. This is a grab for teams that have markets, but have also been winning to some extent lately. Alot of these moves are to keep AQ status. Again nothing wrong with either ECU or Southern Miss as i am really pulling for ECU.

ECU isn't going to return, they have a moron of a coach right now.
They need to can that staff and because I know they won't, I'd rather not gamble on them based on their prior regime's successes. Playground offense is what they run.

Breaking news...With Missouri leaving the Big 12 to join the SEC the Big 12 has announced a new conference name. The Big 14! The five new additions will be Louisville, Cincinnati, West Virginia, BYU & Memphis. Out of all the conference expansion this tops all. ESPN & the Big 12 along with other TV partners will be working on new deals over the next several months. The Big 12 comes out on top being the best all around conference. Big 14!, Big 14!,..LOL what a statement!

The University of Houston has been RANKED in the Top 25 at some point during the regular season for 3 consecutive years. That's a damn good feather in the cap. They are currently #18 in the BCS rankings,

As for basketball, I direct you to this link about what's been going on lately.. Complete with VIDEO...

http://fivestarbasketball.com/articles/0...ma-remix-1

Say what you want but I know that Houston should suck.
There were many years that I have seen them suck and I srill believe that is the norm for the Cougs.
My eyes have told me for many years that this is a program that should suck with everything being equal.

So I believe there will come a point in the near future when the smoke and mirrors comes to an end, and Houston returns to its rightful place of sucking.

Sour grapes, much? Hey, Memphis fan, are you even aware of Houston's football legacy?

(10-17-2011 11:10 PM)TIGERBANDIT Wrote:  Say what you want but I know that Houston should suck.
There were many years that I have seen them suck and I srill believe that is the norm for the Cougs.
My eyes have told me for many years that this is a program that should suck with everything being equal.

So I believe there will come a point in the near future when the smoke and mirrors comes to an end, and Houston returns to its rightful place of sucking.

Rather have someone on the come up than someone spiraling down.
It's the opposite of the stock market, buy high, sell low. ECU is a project, though I admire their facilities and fan base.

Should suck???

What in the world is that supposed to mean?

(10-17-2011 11:17 PM)The Brown Bull Wrote:  Should suck???

What in the world is that supposed to mean?

It means a lot of people are upset at just how unfair this sport and the politics of it are becoming. In an ideal world we would all have equal footing and oppurtunity, our favorite teams would be given a chance and life would be nothing but suds, jugs and laughs.
Unfortunately, some people are too caught up in their feelings, it's a shame.

I'm a Memphis fan.

Congrats to Houston and SMU. I understand their addition. I'm jealous and I won't try to hide it.

(10-17-2011 11:17 PM)The Brown Bull Wrote:  Should suck???

What in the world is that supposed to mean?

This guy has no perspective. If he did, he'd know he looks pretty silly calling a team with a Heisman winner, Lombardi winner, several members of the hall of fame, 18 consensus all-americans, fifteen top 25 finishes, and 20 bowl game appearances a sucky team. These are just some of the football program's accomplishments. This doesn't even dip into basketball legacy...

(10-17-2011 11:02 PM)OwlsExaminer Wrote:  The University of Houston has been RANKED in the Top 25 at some point during the regular season for 3 consecutive years. That's a damn good feather in the cap. They are currently #18 in the BCS rankings,

As for basketball, I direct you to this link about what's been going on lately.. Complete with VIDEO...

http://fivestarbasketball.com/articles/0...ma-remix-1

wait what?

2010 week by week rankings says you are wrong

Houston 64 27 63 97 84 82 83 87 85 90 92 91 89

at what point in 2010 were you ranked....and please dont say preseason...

(10-17-2011 11:28 PM)Usm_13 Wrote:  

(10-17-2011 11:02 PM)OwlsExaminer Wrote:  The University of Houston has been RANKED in the Top 25 at some point during the regular season for 3 consecutive years. That's a damn good feather in the cap. They are currently #18 in the BCS rankings,

As for basketball, I direct you to this link about what's been going on lately.. Complete with VIDEO...

http://fivestarbasketball.com/articles/0...ma-remix-1

wait what?

2010 week by week rankings says you are wrong

Houston 64 27 63 97 84 82 83 87 85 90 92 91 89

at what point in 2010 were you ranked....and please dont say preseason...

Houston was ranked #23 in both the Coaches and AP Poll before they played UCLA in the Rose Bowl in 2010 (that's week 3, if you count pre-season as week 1). This was the game that injured the team's depth in quarterback so greatly, they were playing true freshmen for the rest of the season. I believe the only non-AQ teams to have even done this in modern times have been Boise State, TCU, Utah, and BYU. Can you say "program on the rise"?

They also have history in the SWC playing big time football.

Southern Miss is not even remotely an option. We'd dip into the FCS before adding them.

(10-17-2011 11:33 PM)BullsBEAST Wrote:  They also have history in the SWC playing big time football.

Southern Miss is not even remotely an option. We'd dip into the FCS before adding them.

Nice try, but that doesnt bother USM at all....when all the cards fall USF is the only school that doesnt seem to have options.

Considering the absolute worst case scenario for USF is ending up in C-USA with you, I like our options better than yours.

Southern Miss has had decent football for awhile, other than that, they(and several other C-usa teams) seemed to want our place in the NCAA tournament last year, that about all I know of them.

OP, you clearly know very little about SMU football and what we've been through from an administrative point of view and the changes that have taken place in the last 5 years. If you did, you wouldn't be saying what you are. There was a full paradigmatic change from our administration, alumni, donors, and fans that have allowed June Jones to go from 1-11 to two consecutive bowl games (maybe 3 if we can win 1 more game this season). I have a hard time seeing us getting knocked off of this trajectory, especially with rumors of an AQ invite.. If you want to believe differently because that's what your "eyes" told you a few years ago, by all means, that perspective is your prerogative.