Just an overall sluggish performance.

The Hofstra asst. coach said, on their post game, that they didn't really work on a specific offense, because against W&M's defense, they knew they would get good open shots. They just had to make them...and they did.

I agree with the sluggish performance, plus, it seems those 12 turnovers kept happening every time we had a chance to get it within 4-5 points.
They got 13 points off our 12 turnovers, broke our string of games with double digits 3's.

What in holy heaven would lead you to believe we could summon the defense to win 3 straight games?

(02-15-2018 09:05 PM)Tribal Wrote:  This team can do it but they better correct the ship if they hope to win 3 straight in Charleston

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Tonight was really a mystery relative to how these guys have performed on the road up to now.

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I get that we are an offensive team and not really any defensive minded players outside of maybe Luke who gets hardly any run, but where is the competitive pride to be better than we are and give more effort on D?

That's the weirdest part for me; that we are just ok with being abysmal on D

I never could get the feed to work, which probably ended up being a good thing.

A dangerous, slippery slope in these last three games, if this team doesn't find some toughness and fire.

If UNCW pulls out the win against Charleston on Saturday at Trask, which I think has a good chance of happening, then UNCW will come into Williamsburg a very motivated team on Thursday with the chance to climb out of the bottom four at either our's or Elon's expense. We lose these last three games, and, both UNCW and Elon win out, then we'll lose the tie breaker to UNCW and finish in the bottom four. Not likely that Elon beats Delaware (Daly is back), Northeastern, Charleston, and JMU, but....

A surprising season could be given all back in one week. Think about that. This will not be easy.

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On the plus side, Justin has turned into a walking 20 and 10 guy every night the last several weeks. He is putting up the numbers we all thought Nathan would. Justin is going to be a monster these next 2 years. With Knight down low and a barrage of gunners on the perimeter, its really hard to stop him.

(02-15-2018 07:41 PM)Tribal Wrote:  I hear free throws wins games so we're fine

All snide comments from Tribal aside, it is still just as true as ever:

Hofstra made 12 of their last 13 free throws, in the last 7:26, including 4 in a row from Gustys. Meanwhile, all in the second half, Pierce was going only 6-11 (and even Shaver commented on it on the radio postgame), including missing the front end of a one-and-one. Just those points alone equal the final spread. (And, in the CofC/JMU game, a JMU player missed the front end of an and-one with 0:21 left and a tie game. He makes those and perhaps they win in regulation). So, yeah, making free throws wins games and missing free throws loses games.

Everyone else has already commented on bad defense and Burchfield's off night, so my only other comments concern the men in the middle. That is, why is Gustys getting 21 rebounds? Why did Knight get only 6? Why isn't Nathan muscling him out of the way on some of those rebounds? Why didn't Harrison play more than 3 minutes? His bulk could have made Gustys work harder on some of those rebounds. I just don't think the Tribe utiiiizes our big men enough to get more rebounds.

Lastly, on the play where Gustys stole the ball from Knight and then fast breaked it for an easy dunk ....how on earth does Gustys outrun Knight on that play??!!??!!

(02-15-2018 09:54 PM)Zorch Wrote:  

(02-15-2018 07:41 PM)Tribal Wrote:  I hear free throws wins games so we're fine

, Pierce was going only 6-11 (and even Shaver commented on it on the radio postgame), including missing the front end of a one-and-one. Just those points alone equal the final spread.

Coach needs to accept responsibility for not giving Peirce more rest which is a large part to the missed shots late. Also Coach is not doing a very good rotation to give Cohn, Pierce or Knight enough rest. Wish we saw more than 2 minutes playing time for Loewe and as noted 3 for Harrison.

(02-15-2018 08:52 PM)Tribeheart Wrote:  Why not just foul and make them hit FT's ? Gave up too much time on top of the three.

Just a poor night all the way around.

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This is the third consecutive game that we have lost when the other team had the lead with under 1:30 to play in game and we let them run the clock down and then give up t 3 to their best player.....I knew we would lose when we did not foul at the beginning of this possession.......sad

(02-15-2018 09:54 PM)Zorch Wrote:  

(02-15-2018 07:41 PM)Tribal Wrote:  I hear free throws wins games so we're fine

All snide comments from Tribal aside, it is still just as true as ever:

Hofstra made 12 of their last 13 free throws, in the last 7:26, including 4 in a row from Gustys. Meanwhile, all in the second half, Pierce was going only 6-11 (and even Shaver commented on it on the radio postgame), including missing the front end of a one-and-one. Just those points alone equal the final spread. (And, in the CofC/JMU game, a JMU player missed the front end of an and-one with 0:21 left and a tie game. He makes those and perhaps they win in regulation). So, yeah, making free throws wins games and missing free throws loses games.

Everyone else has already commented on bad defense and Burchfield's off night, so my only other comments concern the men in the middle. That is, why is Gustys getting 21 rebounds? Why did Knight get only 6? Why isn't Nathan muscling him out of the way on some of those rebounds? Why didn't Harrison play more than 3 minutes? His bulk could have made Gustys work harder on some of those rebounds. I just don't think the Tribe utiiiizes our big men enough to get more rebounds.

Lastly, on the play where Gustys stole the ball from Knight and then fast breaked it for an easy dunk ....how on earth does Gustys outrun Knight on that play??!!??!!

Part of that reason is the 3-2 defense. Many times tonight Knight had to get a hand up on a shooter taking a corner 3. The shot missed and it ended up being Milon/Burchfield trying to outrebound Gustys, which ends up being a free rebound for Gustys.

The 3 minutes I saw from Harrison told me all I needed to see. He was struggling mightily against Gustys on the defensive end of the court.

(02-15-2018 09:13 PM)wrnbldg Wrote:  What in holy heaven would lead you to believe we could summon the defense to win 3 straight games?

(02-15-2018 09:05 PM)Tribal Wrote:  This team can do it but they better correct the ship if they hope to win 3 straight in Charleston

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Oh I dunno...maybe because we won 5 consecutive games to start CAA play. Not sure we could repeat that streak in holy heaven though.

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On a side note, the bench played a total of 28 minutes. If that trend continues the last 3 games, we are going to have some tired legs at the CAA tourney.

I honestly think Rowley and Tot need to be getting 15-20 minutes a game (Yeah, I know both were bad tonight so it made it tough to do that against Hofstra). That allows everyone but Cohn to get about 8-10 minutes of rest.

I also think Shaver just needs to give Cohn a 2-3 minute rest at the 12 minute mark of both halves, regardless of how much we are winning or losing by. If we need to, burn the shot clock down to 5 before shooting if he feels that unsure about Loewe at the point. Cohn seems to disappear towards the end of halves, and I think his tired legs of constantly having to create offense for the team kick in there.

(02-15-2018 09:54 PM)Zorch Wrote:  

(02-15-2018 07:41 PM)Tribal Wrote:  I hear free throws wins games so we're fine

All snide comments from Tribal aside, it is still just as true as ever:

I guess you gave up sense of humor for lent.

Hitting free throws is just an old fuddy duddy angle. Some of the top teams in the country suck on the free throw line and seem to win a lot of games. And, just tonight, we hit more free throws and bested them by 11% and still lost. We were significantly better vs CoC and got smoked. If you're going to thump your chest and single-line post, "I keep telling you all free throws wins games," like you discovered a vaccination for losing, then suck it up the numerous times it simply isn't so.

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Let's hope they have amnesia on the way to Boston.

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Team remains competitive but fact is we had no answer for Gustys last night. That, and some poor turnovers in first half doomed us. We played better in second half but, especially on the road, we need complete games.
Bright notes are continued great play by Pierce and recovery of his shot by Milon.

Also agree with those who believe Nathan should become more aggressive...it appears he's laying back not to foul.

We usually stink at Northeastern in their ice hockey arena and I, sadly, don't expect much up there.

We did win 5 straight, but as many have pointed out, mostly against the bottom of the conference. But who knows, we can score in bunches, so if we can summon a modicum of defense for three days ....

Sorry I was crank last night, Tribal. That loss was tough. Realizing we will probably finish 10-8 in the conference, after starting 5-0, was tough.

But being a Tribe fan is not for the faint of heart. Onward and upward!

(02-15-2018 10:53 PM)Tribal Wrote:  

(02-15-2018 09:13 PM)wrnbldg Wrote:  What in holy heaven would lead you to believe we could summon the defense to win 3 straight games?

(02-15-2018 09:05 PM)Tribal Wrote:  This team can do it but they better correct the ship if they hope to win 3 straight in Charleston

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Oh I dunno...maybe because we won 5 consecutive games to start CAA play. Not sure we could repeat that streak in holy heaven though.

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Again, I think we've got a real dilemma facing us in that we could easily lose the final three games, and end up in the bottom four, if other cards play out. Though UNCW is not the same away from Trask, they will be coming in fighting to climb out of the Saturday round. We might not expect much in Boston, but we better be fighting for our lives and hope we eliminate any pressure for having the final two games be must wins. We're not out of the woods. Nathan has got to show up and fouls be damn. Need an angry Knight on the floor, and one who is running the floor. Not one who is more concerned with being nice and picking opposing players off the floor, especially when the ball is going the other way. The end is, also, near for Cohn, Burchfield, Tot and Harrison. Got to leave it all out there.

Ending up in the bottom four will take some really bad luck. We have to lose out and Elon has to win out. I don't see them beating Charleston on the road and Northeastern at home. I don't see Wilmington winning out either, but that one is more realistic.