Quote:Chelsea has a gender, which is female.

Chelsea also has a sex, which would appear to be neuter at this point.

(01-17-2018 03:55 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

Quote:Chelsea has a gender, which is female.

Chelsea also has a sex, which would appear to be neuter at this point.

Again, if you'd like to reduce 'being a man' to simply 'having a 'p*nis', then that's on you

(01-17-2018 06:46 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(01-17-2018 03:55 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

Quote:Chelsea has a gender, which is female.

Chelsea also has a sex, which would appear to be neuter at this point.

Again, if you'd like to reduce 'being a man' to simply 'having a 'p*nis', then that's on you

Good point...I agree...Being born with a ***** makes you male. Being a man is so much more than that, and there are many males walking this country of adult age that totally fail at being a man.

(01-17-2018 06:46 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(01-17-2018 03:55 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

Quote:Chelsea has a gender, which is female.

Chelsea also has a sex, which would appear to be neuter at this point.

Again, if you'd like to reduce 'being a man' to simply 'having a 'p*nis', then that's on you

You keep reducing them to something worse, something they aren't. You're reducing them to a figment of their own imagination.

(01-17-2018 06:48 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  

(01-17-2018 06:46 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(01-17-2018 03:55 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

Quote:Chelsea has a gender, which is female.

Chelsea also has a sex, which would appear to be neuter at this point.

Again, if you'd like to reduce 'being a man' to simply 'having a 'p*nis', then that's on you

Good point...I agree...Being born with a ***** makes you male. Being a man is so much more than that, and there are many males walking this country of adult age that totally fail at being a man.

I'd include, 'being so threatened by a Transgendered person that they cannot respond with any common courtesy' to the list of things that would mean 'failing at being a man'.

(01-17-2018 07:01 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(01-17-2018 06:48 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  

(01-17-2018 06:46 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(01-17-2018 03:55 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

Quote:Chelsea has a gender, which is female.

Chelsea also has a sex, which would appear to be neuter at this point.

Again, if you'd like to reduce 'being a man' to simply 'having a 'p*nis', then that's on you

Good point...I agree...Being born with a ***** makes you male. Being a man is so much more than that, and there are many males walking this country of adult age that totally fail at being a man.

I'd include, 'being so threatened by a Transgendered person that they cannot respond with any common courtesy' to the list of things that would mean 'failing at being a man'.

You're confusing being a man and being a pajama boy.

A man isn't threaten by idiots insisting you call a boy a girl because he wants you too. A man will speak up and tell the boy the truth.

(01-17-2018 07:01 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(01-17-2018 06:48 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  

(01-17-2018 06:46 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(01-17-2018 03:55 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

Quote:Chelsea has a gender, which is female.

Chelsea also has a sex, which would appear to be neuter at this point.

Again, if you'd like to reduce 'being a man' to simply 'having a 'p*nis', then that's on you

Good point...I agree...Being born with a ***** makes you male. Being a man is so much more than that, and there are many males walking this country of adult age that totally fail at being a man.

I'd include, 'being so threatened by a Transgendered person that they cannot respond with any common courtesy' to the list of things that would mean 'failing at being a man'.

And why do you think that you are the authority on what makes a man a man? As I see it, anyone that believes that the government should pay for all of that person's healthcare even when they make poor and or risky life choices begins to fall down the slippery slope away from being a man.

(01-17-2018 07:10 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  

(01-17-2018 07:01 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(01-17-2018 06:48 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  

(01-17-2018 06:46 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(01-17-2018 03:55 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Chelsea also has a sex, which would appear to be neuter at this point.

Again, if you'd like to reduce 'being a man' to simply 'having a 'p*nis', then that's on you

Good point...I agree...Being born with a ***** makes you male. Being a man is so much more than that, and there are many males walking this country of adult age that totally fail at being a man.

I'd include, 'being so threatened by a Transgendered person that they cannot respond with any common courtesy' to the list of things that would mean 'failing at being a man'.

And why do you think that you are the authority on what makes a man a man? As I see it, anyone that believes that the government should pay for all of that person's healthcare even when they make poor and or risky life choices begins to fall down the slippery slope away from being a man.

Regading your comment asking upon what authority I'm relying on.

Seeing as there are many, if not most, that are willing to completely discount the pronouncements of the American Medical Association and American Psychological Association on the matter of gender, I'm not sure that there's any real requirement to be an 'expert' on anything in here or to defer to any authoritative body for said expertise.

Regarding your comment about health care.

I don't see how one's position on whether health care is a right or a luxury has any bearing on 'being a man', but it certainly would have a bearing on 'being a Christian'.

Hope that helps.

A few, many, most... when they're wrong, they're wrong. Numbers don't change that. 2 are wrong, 50 or all. Isn't some number you cross that makes wrong right.

(01-17-2018 06:46 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(01-17-2018 03:55 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

Quote:Chelsea has a gender, which is female.

Chelsea also has a sex, which would appear to be neuter at this point.

Again, if you'd like to reduce 'being a man' to simply 'having a 'p*nis', then that's on you

What's a woman's risk of ***** cancer? Testicular cancer?

FFS if Gender is just a social construct then you can't be bron the wrong gender.

(01-17-2018 10:48 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  

(01-17-2018 06:46 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(01-17-2018 03:55 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

Quote:Chelsea has a gender, which is female.

Chelsea also has a sex, which would appear to be neuter at this point.

Again, if you'd like to reduce 'being a man' to simply 'having a 'p*nis', then that's on you

What's a woman's risk of ***** cancer? Testicular cancer?

FFS if Gender is just a social construct then you can't be bron the wrong gender.

"The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." --George Orwell, 1984

Barring some type of congenital deformity, if you're born with a wanker you're a male. If you have a vag, you are a girl...has it really come to this?

I still call Bruce Jenner Bruce and I will still call Mr. Manning Bradley.

Yep, have called Bruce nothing but Bruce.

(01-17-2018 11:58 PM)450bench Wrote:  Barring some type of congenital deformity, if you're born with a wanker you're a male. If you have a vag, you are a girl...has it really come to this?

Yet, they scream and yell about "believing science". All of these people need straight jackets and a padded room in Bolivar.

Tom really hangs a lot on that single word "gender".

(01-18-2018 08:41 AM)Paul M Wrote:  Tom really hangs a lot on that single word "gender".

Kind of a recent development to use gender to describe what has always been sex to describe biology. Gender was used in language grammar. I suspect use of the word gender to replace sex has some contrived socio-political connotation now but I'm quite sure I don't know what or why.

Tom lives in this fantasy land where what he says is law, he's rich, everyone hangs on his every word, he's a trend setter, very fluent in several languages, and the smartest guy in the room.

Truthfully he's probably a miserable guy living in a trailer park with his mom in Spanish Fort, AL.

(01-18-2018 09:24 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(01-18-2018 08:41 AM)Paul M Wrote:  Tom really hangs a lot on that single word "gender".

Kind of a recent development to use gender to describe what has always been sex to describe biology. Gender was used in language grammar. I suspect use of the word gender to replace sex has some contrived socio-political connotation now but I'm quite sure I don't know what or why.

Not that recent and there is nothing political about it.

(01-18-2018 10:03 AM)gdunn Wrote:  Tom lives in this fantasy land where what he says is law, he's rich, everyone hangs on his every word, he's a trend setter, very fluent in several languages, and the smartest guy in the room.

Truthfully he's probably a miserable guy living in a trailer park with his mom in Spanish Fort, AL.

The way Tom talks. It sounds like he is in love with Bradley.