(10-11-2017 02:36 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(10-11-2017 02:02 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(10-11-2017 12:59 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(10-11-2017 12:51 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(10-11-2017 12:16 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  So, let me see if I've got your line of reasoning. You post a picture of a racist, bigoted, homophobic dominionist with the tag "winning" in order to rebut a thread accusing "Nationalists" of basically being racist, bigoted, and homophobic.

Are you trying to agree with me? Because putting Roy Moore up there is probably not your best rebuttal if you're not.

People that think like you got him elected. Let that sink in

No, bigots and homophobes elected him. Alabama's bigots don't listen to anyone who isn't part of the White/Dominionist/Straight/Confederate Identity movement.

I only lived there for 22 years. I pretty much know how Alabamians process things.

They have a word for making generalizations about groups of people.

Actually, please try to justify a vote for Roy Moore using any other logic other than pure bigotry against persons that don't share his faith and sexual orientation. That's all Moore stands for.

Bigots and homophobes.

All righteousness and morality centers around you?

There's a psychological term for that.

(10-11-2017 02:36 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Actually, please try to justify a vote for Roy Moore using any other logic other than pure bigotry against persons that don't share his faith and sexual orientation. That's all Moore stands for.
Bigots and homophobes.

I'm just very happy I no longer live and vote in Alabama.

A vote for Moore is a vote for a lunatic.

A vote for Jones is a vote for Chuck Schumer.

Hard to tell which is worse.

(10-11-2017 03:44 PM)Claw Wrote:  Duh, football. How did this get to gay rights? Did it have something to do with men kneeling? I am confused.

It got to special rights (not gay rights) due to LazyTom. That man is all gay, all the time. If you don't think a thread you started can be pivoted to "all gay all the time", you're wrong. Tommy will find a way. He always finds a way.

(10-11-2017 05:08 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(10-11-2017 02:36 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Actually, please try to justify a vote for Roy Moore using any other logic other than pure bigotry against persons that don't share his faith and sexual orientation. That's all Moore stands for.
Bigots and homophobes.

I'm just very happy I no longer live and vote in Alabama.

A vote for Moore is a vote for a lunatic.

A vote for Jones is a vote for Chuck Schumer.

Hard to tell which is worse.

you said the same about DJT......

sorry chief, but that shtick is wearing me out.....

at some point, taking a stance (in your case would be like me since voting age would be to NOT VOTE) is the only option if (E) None of the above is your position.....

the 3rd party is "here here"......I'm confused with all your previous posits at this point.....

you can't fix this shite overnight (and I'm not sold it's salvageable or solvent).....and while I agree with most of your talking points, you continue to choose "divisive logic"

that in itself is a problem......

#babysteps via stone crushing the current regime that is #washtub

the libertarians are clueless how to "deal"......that matters.....

(10-11-2017 09:18 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(10-10-2017 11:39 AM)olliebaba Wrote:  and the NFL have decided to change the rule books where everyone WILL stand or if they don't they WILL sit during the games. The Nfl has seen the writing on the wall and they didn't like it.

Congratulations to every Red, White and Blue veined American patriot. We had our tea party and we won the war.

Screw the Whiney Millionaires and their faux outrage.

You really think you've won? LOL.

The NFL is in a precarious position. Here's why

Their business model is primarily valued based upon the payments of liberals, many of whom don't care about football. Its largely liberal people in liberal cities that must decide whether to issue new bonds for new stadium construction, fund taxpayer giveaways for the owners, and who are subject to 'must take' cable contracts that require them to pay the NFL 300 bucks a year to watch HGTV. There are multiple paths for liberals to make the NFL pay for allowing Donald Trump to set their personnel policies. Enjoy trying to get a new bond issue passed in urban areas when the league has just told players "you're going to be a plantation worker from here on out" and still refuses to fire LGBT persons, and has very, very, very few players that don't come from a straight Christian environment. Losing the African American core support for the league would be a disaster. Suburban municipalities aren't likely to have the scope to fund what the cities have been doing for the NFL.

Its not about the fans or the players, its about the owners. The NFL made this crystal clear when they moved the Chargers to Los Angeles, where they have no fans and zero eyeballs watching their games. This will not change anytime soon (even if the Chargers start winning). A NFL team is valued almost exclusively off of TV must take revenue and taxpayer giveaways.

This is not surprising that the NFL owners caved. Many of them are hard right Trumpers. Hopefully, the players can find some way to make a publicly visible protest of Trump/Racism at the games going forward.

Thanks for that.

It's late, I needed a good evening laugh after an otherwise long day.

Good to see you back, crazybrook!

(10-11-2017 10:31 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(10-11-2017 10:25 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(10-10-2017 07:32 PM)Dynamos Wrote:  

(10-10-2017 05:44 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(10-10-2017 03:13 PM)Dynamos Wrote:  They arent protesting for themselves. They are using their platform to stand up for people with no voice. Asking for Americans to be treated like Americans isn't anti American

Oh? Then why weren't they kneeling en masse PRIOR to Trump saying anything?

Of course some players are just kneeling in protest of Trump but the true protest started before Trump was even in office.

I hate that the actual point of the protest has been lost and the attention is on a piece of cloth, a song and now a man

Yet there your guys are focusing on a piece of cloth and a song. I said from day one they were doing their cause a disservice by their actions, their efforts would have been better expended protesting in the communities, like outside a particular precinct or at city hall, where their perceived injustices actually occurred.

White people don't appear to pay attention to black protests at city hall. That's why they protest at NFL games.

Says the whitest, white most entitled white person in the room.

Enlighten us ignant unwashed masses...

How many "city halls" have you been to lately?

I thought you were boar hunting with the crown prince of Algiers?!?

Fraud? Thy name is...

(10-11-2017 11:12 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(10-11-2017 11:08 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(10-10-2017 07:43 PM)Dynamos Wrote:  I actually think it's terrifying that he would suggest changing policies just because he disagrees with a protest

Im so glad we have checks and balances in this country

Actually, he didn't come up with it. The Dems started this a while ago with the idea that owners shouldn't be getting tax benefits from citizens to build their playgrounds.

Republicans in congress jumped on board recently given the protests.

Trump wasn't the first. He's just the most recent.

But one thing is for certain: at this point there seems to be bi-partisan support for cutting tax breaks.


Imagine this -- we've seen the last great sports arena built in the U.S. From now on, budgets will be scaled given the lack of revenue/tax benefit.

I'm good with that. We can also extend it to college and high school sports too. Let them all stand on their own, or do it within some very strict subsidy guidelines. No more 75 million dollar high school stadiums. No more school district paid six figure coaching salaries. No more thousand dollar student subsidies so State U can pay a football conditioning coach 600 grand a year.

No more cable must take contracts either.

Let them pay their own way.

You would find an amazing level of support from many of us conservatives on this too.

Welcome to the firepit!

Looks like this was just a request, not a policy change. Kneel on.

(10-12-2017 04:43 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  Looks like this was just a request, not a policy change. Kneel on.

Yes, but it could be voted on next week.

(10-11-2017 06:12 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(10-11-2017 05:08 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(10-11-2017 02:36 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Actually, please try to justify a vote for Roy Moore using any other logic other than pure bigotry against persons that don't share his faith and sexual orientation. That's all Moore stands for.
Bigots and homophobes.

I'm just very happy I no longer live and vote in Alabama.

A vote for Moore is a vote for a lunatic.

A vote for Jones is a vote for Chuck Schumer.

Hard to tell which is worse.

you said the same about DJT......

sorry chief, but that shtick is wearing me out.....

at some point, taking a stance (in your case would be like me since voting age would be to NOT VOTE) is the only option if (E) None of the above is your position.....

the 3rd party is "here here"......I'm confused with all your previous posits at this point.....

you can't fix this shite overnight (and I'm not sold it's salvageable or solvent).....and while I agree with most of your talking points, you continue to choose "divisive logic"

that in itself is a problem......

#babysteps via stone crushing the current regime that is #washtub

the libertarians are clueless how to "deal"......that matters.....

The whole world is about to see how crazy the Republicans are. I hope another lunatic does win.

(10-11-2017 02:36 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(10-11-2017 02:02 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(10-11-2017 12:59 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(10-11-2017 12:51 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(10-11-2017 12:16 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  So, let me see if I've got your line of reasoning. You post a picture of a racist, bigoted, homophobic dominionist with the tag "winning" in order to rebut a thread accusing "Nationalists" of basically being racist, bigoted, and homophobic.

Are you trying to agree with me? Because putting Roy Moore up there is probably not your best rebuttal if you're not.

People that think like you got him elected. Let that sink in

No, bigots and homophobes elected him. Alabama's bigots don't listen to anyone who isn't part of the White/Dominionist/Straight/Confederate Identity movement.

I only lived there for 22 years. I pretty much know how Alabamians process things.

They have a word for making generalizations about groups of people.

Actually, please try to justify a vote for Roy Moore using any other logic other than pure bigotry against persons that don't share his faith and sexual orientation. That's all Moore stands for.

Bigots and homophobes.

Speaking of bigots... And aren't you yourself guilty of heterophobia?

(10-11-2017 03:44 PM)Claw Wrote:  Duh, football. How did this get to gay rights? Did it have something to do with men kneeling? I am confused.

Because once again a deranged, obsessed individual has hijacked and derailed yet another thread.

(10-11-2017 06:12 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(10-11-2017 05:08 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(10-11-2017 02:36 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Actually, please try to justify a vote for Roy Moore using any other logic other than pure bigotry against persons that don't share his faith and sexual orientation. That's all Moore stands for.
Bigots and homophobes.

I'm just very happy I no longer live and vote in Alabama.

A vote for Moore is a vote for a lunatic.

A vote for Jones is a vote for Chuck Schumer.

Hard to tell which is worse.

you said the same about DJT......

sorry chief, but that shtick is wearing me out.....

at some point, taking a stance (in your case would be like me since voting age would be to NOT VOTE) is the only option if (E) None of the above is your position.....

the 3rd party is "here here"......I'm confused with all your previous posits at this point.....

you can't fix this shite overnight (and I'm not sold it's salvageable or solvent).....and while I agree with most of your talking points, you continue to choose "divisive logic"

that in itself is a problem......

#babysteps via stone crushing the current regime that is #washtub

the libertarians are clueless how to "deal"......that matters.....

+3
Most still don't have a clue that the 3rd party guy just won. Fewer understand that (infiltration strategy) is as close as they'll ever get.

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Tom,
Is there a difference between Trump and Romney?

Whoever the next Republican president is, they will receive the same level of hate as Trump. Every Republican president does. It's not Trump.. it's the "R". The left is made up of emotional simpletons with a platform that they can't actually run on, so they sustain themselves with lies and attacks against the right.

(10-12-2017 09:07 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  Whoever the next Republican president is, they will receive the same level of hate as Trump. Every Republican president does. It's not Trump.. it's the "R". The left is made up of emotional simpletons with a platform that they can't actually run on, so they sustain themselves with lies and attacks against the right.

the dippos have become nothing more than the 21st century #robberbarons

when the numbers (population) become such in the corral, it makes it much easier to achieve one's goal.....they're too stupid to realize why they live in poverty and pay homage to such....

it's been sickening to watch it evolve when it should've devolved as time continued to tick tock....

it's why I've always hated politics in my lifetime.....I'm 52.3125 now.....I've had to witness all this bullshite since Johnson/Nixon.....

(10-12-2017 09:17 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(10-12-2017 09:07 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  Whoever the next Republican president is, they will receive the same level of hate as Trump. Every Republican president does. It's not Trump.. it's the "R". The left is made up of emotional simpletons with a platform that they can't actually run on, so they sustain themselves with lies and attacks against the right.

the dippos have become nothing more than the 21st century #robberbarons

when the numbers (population) become such in the corral, it makes it much easier to achieve one's goal.....they're too stupid to realize why they live in poverty and pay homage to such....

it's been sickening to watch it evolve when it should've devolved as time continued to tick tock....

it's why I've always hated politics in my lifetime.....I'm 52.3125 now.....I've had to witness all this bullshite since Johnson/Nixon.....

All of this only stops when the free money runs out. When our interest payments finally get higher than revenue and our government, and all of the safety nets, have finally been eaten by the locusts.

Then after the stages of grief and lots of starving maybe we'll reinstall a federal republic with limited power that won't try to be our mother/enabler/pusher again.




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Roy Moore the false prophet.

http://www.al.com/opinion/index.ssf/2017...t_home_pop

(10-12-2017 09:07 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  Whoever the next Republican president is, they will receive the same level of hate as Trump. Every Republican president does. It's not Trump.. it's the "R". The left is made up of emotional simpletons with a platform that they can't actually run on, so they sustain themselves with lies and attacks against the right.

This x 100. I have been preaching this since Trump was elected.

Roy Moore is a dillweed.

The fact that you guys are losing to an utter dillweed should tell you guys something. But it doesn't.

I suspect you would also be losing to a) nobody b) a rabid weasel c) the Subway guy. I suspect that wouldn't phase you either.

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