(10-01-2017 09:42 AM)Doggone Wrote:  

(10-01-2017 01:22 AM)NIU2003 Wrote:  

(10-01-2017 01:17 AM)sterling1man Wrote:  

(10-01-2017 01:13 AM)bikechuck Wrote:  

(10-01-2017 01:08 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  NIU is one coach and one QB away from being a top 25 team, I think that's the really frustrating part.

Santa has continued to improve, my guess is that he will learn from his mistakes tonight.

Not at all sure about Carey though.

Carey did nearly everything right tonight.
He held Penny the best RB in the nation!
He limited their offense.
He outplayed their incredible offense.
He scored 4 offensive TD's.
He made excellent second half adjustments.
Had Santa executed properly in the end NIU would have won, and Carey would be a hero.

Coach Kane stopped the SDSU O. Not Carey...


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So the DC gets the props for our defense, but the head coach gets the blame for the offenses woes, and not the OC? Some people just have an agenda against Carey. Coaching was fine today, NIU just made too many mistakes. They will learn from this and grow.

+1 i think the coaching put us in a position to win the the non-execution that led to the 4 turnovers cost us the game. I still would rather run run run in that last drive... but your right if santa would have made a better throw that was an incomplete or a td we would all be fine today.

(10-01-2017 01:04 AM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(10-01-2017 01:02 AM)NIUHuskie4life Wrote:  Santa cost us this game. Still has a lot of growing left.

Coaching cost us this at the end. We win if we keep running the ball. You're shredding them on the ground, eating clock, and about to score and you call a pass play lol.

You hit the nail on the head!

(10-01-2017 10:48 AM)huskie88 Wrote:  

(10-01-2017 01:04 AM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(10-01-2017 01:02 AM)NIUHuskie4life Wrote:  Santa cost us this game. Still has a lot of growing left.

Coaching cost us this at the end. We win if we keep running the ball. You're shredding them on the ground, eating clock, and about to score and you call a pass play lol.

You hit the nail on the head!

If NIU scored a td at that point, There was 2 minutes left for sdsu. Too much time.

Looks like Carey was tearing into Santa after. Kid has his head down bigtime.

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He'll learn. We honestly aren't even in this game without his accuracy in the deep passing game. He was pretty money in the first half minus the INT for TD. Then he came out and continued solid play in the 3rd quarter when we were down by 3 scores. We are playing a much more traditional offense with him at QB. We don't appear to be using the read-option much but mostly just letting Santa play as a pocket passer and letting the RBs do the damage on the ground.

Blake and Tears were beating those corners so badly on fly routes you have to dial up a deep ball again. The way Carey yelled at Santa I have to believe prior to the play he said - we are going deep, but only throw it if he's wide open. You can say keep running the ball....but you have no idea if Huff would have gotten stuffed on the next two downs. Because you're successful a few runs in a row, that doesn't mean "you can stuff it down their throats" all the way to the end zone. They were open on almost all of those deep routes. Take them. Trying to run 15 times without a hold or fumble isn't easy.

Wasn't NIU on about the SDSU 20-yard line? There aren't any deep routes there.

Obviously a winnable game

But you can't be -4 turnover margin and give up a KR touchdown

The ifs and buts are many, but those 2 stats make it rough

Santa is young, he will make mistakes, hopefully we see progression as he pushes the ball down field more

I think we played well and we will be very competitive in every conference game

From an entertainment perspective, I like having a guy that can throw deep and make a big play. It's very hard to march down the field 4 yards at a time. He made a few mistakes which were very costly, but he's young. He'll learn more patience, so my opinion hasn't changed at all on Santa. The KO return was costly also, and the fumble on the jet sweep.

(10-01-2017 11:36 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  Wasn't NIU on about the SDSU 20-yard line? There aren't any deep routes there.

Thats true. It wasnt really a deep route. I had to re watch the game this morning. But it was a streak pattern he should have thrown 30 yards downfield. Unfortunately he threw it 25. With our short passing game, we lose effectiveness inside the 20. We only have short outs/screens or fly patterns. Inside the 20 the fly pattern disappears. I would be more ok with this play if they did it from the 30 or 35. But now seeing that it was from the 20, yeah...not the best.

One, just one pass attempted inside the hash marks. The only ball Wimann caught for 3 yards. I get their philosophy with the safe passes to the sideline and spreading the defense wide to run up the middle. But so much of the field isn't utilized. And two of the picks were from throwing diagonally across the field towards the other sideline. Might as well just go to the middle in those instances.

(10-01-2017 12:30 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  

(10-01-2017 11:36 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  Wasn't NIU on about the SDSU 20-yard line? There aren't any deep routes there.

Thats true. It wasnt really a deep route. I had to re watch the game this morning. But it was a streak pattern he should have thrown 30 yards downfield. Unfortunately he threw it 25. With our short passing game, we lose effectiveness inside the 20. We only have short outs/screens or fly patterns. Inside the 20 the fly pattern disappears. I would be more ok with this play if they did it from the 30 or 35. But now seeing that it was from the 20, yeah...not the best.

One, just one pass attempted inside the hash marks. The only ball Wimann caught for 3 yards. I get their philosophy with the safe passes to the sideline and spreading the defense wide to run up the middle. But so much of the field isn't utilized. And two of the picks were from throwing diagonally across the field towards the other sideline. Might as well just go to the middle in those instances.

It seems like over the years we haven't gone over the middle much. Don't know why that is. Maybe our QBs are too short to see over the middle?

(10-01-2017 10:58 AM)epasnoopy Wrote:  He'll learn. We honestly aren't even in this game without his accuracy in the deep passing game. He was pretty money in the first half minus the INT for TD. Then he came out and continued solid play in the 3rd quarter when we were down by 3 scores. We are playing a much more traditional offense with him at QB. We don't appear to be using the read-option much but mostly just letting Santa play as a pocket passer and letting the RBs do the damage on the ground.

Good post. I remember Harnish's first season. He threw a few INTs but just got better & better. Santa will too. He's got the arm & accuracy is pretty good. He will just get better.

Honestly, we were absolutely the better team last night. We stopped their star RB & held their offense so well the 3rd qtr. was almost over - a little more than just 2 min. left in the qtr. - before they even got a first down. If we had not gifted them 14 points we walk away the winners. I was impressed with NIU and unimpressed with SDSU. They weren't half as scary as some thought they would be.

(10-01-2017 10:34 AM)NIUSox10 Wrote:  

(10-01-2017 09:42 AM)Doggone Wrote:  

(10-01-2017 01:22 AM)NIU2003 Wrote:  

(10-01-2017 01:17 AM)sterling1man Wrote:  

(10-01-2017 01:13 AM)bikechuck Wrote:  Santa has continued to improve, my guess is that he will learn from his mistakes tonight.

Not at all sure about Carey though.

Carey did nearly everything right tonight.
He held Penny the best RB in the nation!
He limited their offense.
He outplayed their incredible offense.
He scored 4 offensive TD's.
He made excellent second half adjustments.
Had Santa executed properly in the end NIU would have won, and Carey would be a hero.

Coach Kane stopped the SDSU O. Not Carey...


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So the DC gets the props for our defense, but the head coach gets the blame for the offenses woes, and not the OC? Some people just have an agenda against Carey. Coaching was fine today, NIU just made too many mistakes. They will learn from this and grow.

+1 i think the coaching put us in a position to win the the non-execution that led to the 4 turnovers cost us the game. I still would rather run run run in that last drive... but your right if santa would have made a better throw that was an incomplete or a td we would all be fine today.

And if we had Tom Brady, Manning. that pass is TD. Jordan Lynch, Harnish, Haldi we win the game. They can probably make that pass. But NONE of them are on the team.

But 1st down in red zone, 230 left, you are running all over them, again you pass in red zone. Why? What I find strangest is before 1/2 we didn't want to give up ball for field possession after punt with 2 min left. Our punter shanks it, and will call TO to give them more time, the get FG. So at end, we try to catch them napping with 230 again left, so if we score they are getting the ball about 35, 40 since we can't stop the ko returns. Explain to me the wonderful coaching there. Just because you coached great for 90% of time, put yourself in a chance to win does not excuse you from some major screw ups. Know the situation on the field, the clock. Know your team, your players their capability. You expected a lot out of Santa on that play. To me, it's not a learning experience when the game is on the line. It's a loss, plain and simple. And I don't blame Santa.

(10-01-2017 10:58 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  Blake and Tears were beating those corners so badly on fly routes you have to dial up a deep ball again. The way Carey yelled at Santa I have to believe prior to the play he said - we are going deep, but only throw it if he's wide open. You can say keep running the ball....but you have no idea if Huff would have gotten stuffed on the next two downs. Because you're successful a few runs in a row, that doesn't mean "you can stuff it down their throats" all the way to the end zone. They were open on almost all of those deep routes. Take them. Trying to run 15 times without a hold or fumble isn't easy.

Why? To waste a down? Same crap against BC. The risk is higher than return. Like calling a TO with 35 seconds til half when 90 seconds earlier you were tryigng to runthe clock out!

(10-01-2017 11:36 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  Wasn't NIU on about the SDSU 20-yard line? There aren't any deep routes there.

Thank you. Can't throw a 40 yrd fly pass there.

Some can't figure that out. Nor can Carey. High risk, minimum reward. Especially when you look at who is was asking to do it.

So happy to be relevant again. Much respect given from my fellow big10 alums.

(10-01-2017 01:26 PM)randyfensfanclub1 Wrote:  

(10-01-2017 11:36 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  Wasn't NIU on about the SDSU 20-yard line? There aren't any deep routes there.

Thank you. Can't throw a 40 yrd fly pass there.

Some can't figure that out. Nor can Carey. High risk, minimum reward. Especially when you look at who is was asking to do it.

Who should you trust to win the game? Sophomore QB who threw a couple picks already or Senior RB who was dominating the whole game? No brainer.

(10-01-2017 08:28 AM)bikechuck Wrote:  

(10-01-2017 07:00 AM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  So you'd rather blame the player than the guy making a million dollars whose job is to put this kid in the best position to win the game. Even the most novice of coaches know if your RB is successful, you give him the ball to milk the clock and give your team the best opprtunity to win the game. Only you, stupid moron, doesn't seem to grasp that basic fundamental concept. Oh yeah and our coaches... But go ahead put the blame squarely on Santa if that makes you feel better about our coaches' brilliant decision at the end of the game that cost Santa and the rest of our players who deserved so much better. You are a disgusting moron.

In my opinion the coaches made some bad judgments and the players at times failed to execute. That said, there was a lot to like tonight. Our defense is outstanding, our offense is improving and the coaching staff is letting Santa run the whole offense.

Badmoon, I appreciate your passion but why call a fellow HUSKIE fan a "disgusting moron"? It dilutes the effectiveness of your message.

All this moron has ever done is make personal attacks with nothing to back it up. He is beyond disgusting. It's obvious the coaches made a huge mistake at the end but he wants to blame a kid who played his heart out. He's a disgusting idiot.

A sophomore who already threw two picks instead of a senior RB who dominated all night. Obvious choice!

(10-01-2017 01:44 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  A sophomore who already threw two picks instead of a senior RB who dominated all night. Obvious choice!

Hard to agrue your point; at that point in the game Santa only had the 1 pick. If we wanted to mix it up(not sure why we would), I would have liked to see a fake give to Huff and a QB run. At least you take advantage of SDSU focusing on Huff. Bad play call, bad decision, bad pass. Time to move on; way more good than bad. Nobody had much hope for this team. That has changed dramatically.

(10-01-2017 01:38 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  

(10-01-2017 01:26 PM)randyfensfanclub1 Wrote:  

(10-01-2017 11:36 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  Wasn't NIU on about the SDSU 20-yard line? There aren't any deep routes there.

Thank you. Can't throw a 40 yrd fly pass there.

Some can't figure that out. Nor can Carey. High risk, minimum reward. Especially when you look at who is was asking to do it.

Who should you trust to win the game? Sophomore QB who threw a couple picks already or Senior RB who was dominating the whole game? No brainer.

Yeah, seemed like a good time to take the ball out of the RB hands. QB needs to learn. Well at least to Carey. Sorry, I keep forgetting. He doesn't make those calls.

1st and 10 at SDSU 45
(4:12 - 4th)Jordan Huff run for 7 yds to the SDSt 38
2nd and 3 at SDSU 38
Jordan Huff run for 6 yds to the SDSt 32 for a 1ST down
1st and 10 at SDSU 32
(4:12 - 4th) Jordan Huff run for 7 yds to the SDSt 25
2nd and 3 at SDSU 25
(4:12 - 4th) Marcus Jones run for 5 yds to the SDSt 20 for a 1ST down
1st and 10 at SDSU 20
(4:12 - 4th) Daniel Santacaterina pass intercepted Kameron Kelly return for 44 yds to the SDSt 0 SAN DIEGO ST Penalty, unsportsmanlike conduct (15 Yards) to the SDSt 30