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RE: American vs nonPower
The MW just needs to disband and play with the 4-5 teams that can even remotely play football.
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(09-24-2017 09:04 AM)fanhood Wrote:  
(09-24-2017 09:02 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  You've trumpeted Hair Thompson's mwc 6 AAC 5 here before.
It's just as useless a stat as 1-8 in exhibition games. You were JUST bragging on AF beating the AAC West champ, but conveniently omit the '13-'14 record of that current AAC flagbearer - who had already said "yes" to joining the Big East / AAC. Navy's formal accession to the conference took time so we could meet existing contractual obligations, aka kicking mwc azz

Ha. Ok. I forgot about that stat. Thus it was 6-5 going into the year, and now it is 7-6?

Got it. Both conference have been disappointing thus far, but are 1-1 against each other this year, and about even over the past four years.
Disappointing? Speak for yourself
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(09-24-2017 09:12 AM)Limebull Wrote:  
(09-24-2017 09:04 AM)fanhood Wrote:  
(09-24-2017 09:02 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  You've trumpeted Hair Thompson's mwc 6 AAC 5 here before.
It's just as useless a stat as 1-8 in exhibition games. You were JUST bragging on AF beating the AAC West champ, but conveniently omit the '13-'14 record of that current AAC flagbearer - who had already said "yes" to joining the Big East / AAC. Navy's formal accession to the conference took time so we could meet existing contractual obligations, aka kicking mwc azz

Ha. Ok. I forgot about that stat. Thus it was 6-5 going into the year, and now it is 7-6?

Got it. Both conference have been disappointing thus far, but are 1-1 against each other this year, and about even over the past four years.
Disappointing? Speak for yourself

Yes
Vs Power teams
American 4-9, MWC 3-17
American four unbeaten teams , MWC 0ne
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RE: American vs nonPower
(09-24-2017 09:31 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  Yes
Vs Power teams
American 4-9, MWC 3-17
American four unbeaten teams , MWC 0ne

Worse for the MW, they only have one team that currently has a winning record while the AAC has 6 teams with winning records. It doesn't get any better when you talk about teams with losing records. The AAC has 2 while the MWC has 5 teams with losing records.
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(09-24-2017 09:34 AM)sfink16 Wrote:  
(09-24-2017 09:31 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  Yes
Vs Power teams
American 4-9, MWC 3-17
American four unbeaten teams , MWC 0ne

Worse for the MW, they only have one team that currently has a winning record while the AAC has 6 teams with winning records. It doesn't get any better when you talk about teams with losing records. The AAC has 2 while the MWC has 5 teams with losing records.
Without SDSU, the MWC would be a complete joke
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(08-20-2017 08:35 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  The league has 22 match ups vs teams from nonPower leagues. The league must win most of them to keep the American ranked high.
Here are the match ups

Vs CUSA- 6 games
FIU at UCF. 61-17 win
Marshall at UC 21-38 loss
UTSA at Houston cancelled
Rice at Houston 38-3 win
Navy at FAU 42-19 win
North Texas at SMU 54-32 win
Tulane at FIU

Vs MWC- 3 games
Air Force vs Navy
USF at San Jose State 42-22 win
New Mexico at Tulsa 13-16 loss

Vs MAC- 2 games American goes 1-1
UC at Miami Oh 21-17 win
Tulsa at Toledo 51-54 loss

Vs SunBelt-4 games American goes 3-0
LaMonroe at Memphis. 37-29 win
Memphis at Georgia State cancelled
Arkansas State at SMU 44-21 win
LaLafayette at Tulsa 66-42 win

Vs Independents- 6 games
BYU at ECU
Army at Navy
Mass at USF cancelled
Mass at Temple 29-21 win
Temple at Army
Army at Tulane 21-17 win

American is now 11-3
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(10-01-2017 08:46 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  
(08-20-2017 08:35 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  The league has 22 match ups vs teams from nonPower leagues. The league must win most of them to keep the American ranked high.
Here are the match ups

Vs CUSA- 6 games
FIU at UCF. 61-17 win
Marshall at UC 21-38 loss
UTSA at Houston cancelled
Rice at Houston 38-3 win
Navy at FAU 42-19 win
North Texas at SMU 54-32 win
Tulane at FIU

Vs MWC- 3 games
Air Force vs Navy
USF at San Jose State 42-22 win
New Mexico at Tulsa 13-16 loss

Vs MAC- 2 games American goes 1-1
UC at Miami Oh 21-17 win
Tulsa at Toledo 51-54 loss

Vs SunBelt-4 games American goes 3-0
LaMonroe at Memphis. 37-29 win
Memphis at Georgia State cancelled
Arkansas State at SMU 44-21 win
LaLafayette at Tulsa 66-42 win

Vs Independents- 6 games
BYU at ECU
Army at Navy
Mass at USF cancelled
Mass at Temple 29-21 win
Temple at Army
Army at Tulane 21-17 win

American is now 11-3

Lookin good so far
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RE: American vs nonPower
Running total, regular season AAC vs G4, 2015-2017:
29-5.

Adding in exhibition games still 30-13, .698
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RE: American vs nonPower
(10-01-2017 08:46 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  
(08-20-2017 08:35 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  The league has 22 match ups vs teams from nonPower leagues. The league must win most of them to keep the American ranked high.
Here are the match ups

Vs CUSA- 6 games
FIU at UCF. 61-17 win
Marshall at UC 21-38 loss
UTSA at Houston cancelled
Rice at Houston 38-3 win
Navy at FAU 42-19 win
North Texas at SMU 54-32 win
Tulane at FIU

Vs MWC- 3 games
Air Force vs Navy
USF at San Jose State 42-22 win
New Mexico at Tulsa 13-16 loss

Vs MAC- 2 games American goes 1-1
UC at Miami Oh 21-17 win
Tulsa at Toledo 51-54 loss

Vs SunBelt-4 games American goes 3-0
LaMonroe at Memphis. 37-29 win
Memphis at Georgia State cancelled
Arkansas State at SMU 44-21 win
LaLafayette at Tulsa 66-42 win

Vs Independents- 6 games
BYU at ECU
Army at Navy
Mass at USF cancelled
Mass at Temple 29-21 win
Temple at Army
Army at Tulane 21-17 win

American is now 11-3

Most of those are some really bad teams that you've beaten. Theres a bunch of UMass/Army/F_U's listed... Do you have a W/L record for those you've vanquished?
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(10-01-2017 09:23 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  Running total, regular season AAC vs G4, 2015-2017:
29-5.

Adding in exhibition games still 30-13, .698

[Image: RG0BS1U.gif]

That 1-8 bowl record is hideous though, lol.
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RE: American vs nonPower
(10-01-2017 09:35 AM)TheOriginalBigApp Wrote:  
(10-01-2017 08:46 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  
(08-20-2017 08:35 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  The league has 22 match ups vs teams from nonPower leagues. The league must win most of them to keep the American ranked high.
Here are the match ups

Vs CUSA- 6 games
FIU at UCF. 61-17 win
Marshall at UC 21-38 loss
UTSA at Houston cancelled
Rice at Houston 38-3 win
Navy at FAU 42-19 win
North Texas at SMU 54-32 win
Tulane at FIU

Vs MWC- 3 games
Air Force vs Navy
USF at San Jose State 42-22 win
New Mexico at Tulsa 13-16 loss

Vs MAC- 2 games American goes 1-1
UC at Miami Oh 21-17 win
Tulsa at Toledo 51-54 loss

Vs SunBelt-4 games American goes 3-0
LaMonroe at Memphis. 37-29 win
Memphis at Georgia State cancelled
Arkansas State at SMU 44-21 win
LaLafayette at Tulsa 66-42 win

Vs Independents- 6 games
BYU at ECU
Army at Navy
Mass at USF cancelled
Mass at Temple 29-21 win
Temple at Army
Army at Tulane 21-17 win

American is now 11-3

Most of those are some really bad teams that you've beaten. Theres a bunch of UMass/Army/F_U's listed... Do you have a W/L record for those you've vanquished?
All of the AAC's losses are from two very bad teams. And 1-4 Tulsa lost by 3 points in both their losses against the G4.
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The Marshall fans are busy on the CUSA board pretending that Cincy is one of the better teams in the AAC this year.
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RE: American vs nonPower
(10-01-2017 09:35 AM)TheOriginalBigApp Wrote:  
(10-01-2017 08:46 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  
(08-20-2017 08:35 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  The league has 22 match ups vs teams from nonPower leagues. The league must win most of them to keep the American ranked high.
Here are the match ups

Vs CUSA- 6 games
FIU at UCF. 61-17 win
Marshall at UC 21-38 loss
UTSA at Houston cancelled
Rice at Houston 38-3 win
Navy at FAU 42-19 win
North Texas at SMU 54-32 win
Tulane at FIU

Vs MWC- 3 games
Air Force vs Navy
USF at San Jose State 42-22 win
New Mexico at Tulsa 13-16 loss

Vs MAC- 2 games American goes 1-1
UC at Miami Oh 21-17 win
Tulsa at Toledo 51-54 loss

Vs SunBelt-4 games American goes 3-0
LaMonroe at Memphis. 37-29 win
Memphis at Georgia State cancelled
Arkansas State at SMU 44-21 win
LaLafayette at Tulsa 66-42 win

Vs Independents- 6 games
BYU at ECU
Army at Navy
Mass at USF cancelled
Mass at Temple 29-21 win
Temple at Army
Army at Tulane 21-17 win

American is now 11-3

Most of those are some really bad teams that you've beaten. Theres a bunch of UMass/Army/F_U's listed... Do you have a W/L record for those you've vanquished?

Well, most of the G4 are really bad teams. that is the point. 07-coffee3
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(10-01-2017 09:55 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  The Marshall fans are busy on the CUSA board pretending that Cincy is one of the better teams in the AAC this year.

When was the last time Cincy was good at football?
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RE: American vs nonPower
(10-01-2017 09:35 AM)TheOriginalBigApp Wrote:  
(10-01-2017 08:46 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  
(08-20-2017 08:35 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  The league has 22 match ups vs teams from nonPower leagues. The league must win most of them to keep the American ranked high.
Here are the match ups

Vs CUSA- 6 games
FIU at UCF. 61-17 win
Marshall at UC 21-38 loss
UTSA at Houston cancelled
Rice at Houston 38-3 win
Navy at FAU 42-19 win
North Texas at SMU 54-32 win
Tulane at FIU

Vs MWC- 3 games
Air Force vs Navy
USF at San Jose State 42-22 win
New Mexico at Tulsa 13-16 loss

Vs MAC- 2 games American goes 1-1
UC at Miami Oh 21-17 win
Tulsa at Toledo 51-54 loss

Vs SunBelt-4 games American goes 3-0
LaMonroe at Memphis. 37-29 win
Memphis at Georgia State cancelled
Arkansas State at SMU 44-21 win
LaLafayette at Tulsa 66-42 win

Vs Independents- 6 games
BYU at ECU
Army at Navy
Mass at USF cancelled
Mass at Temple 29-21 win
Temple at Army
Army at Tulane 21-17 win

American is now 11-3

Most of those are some really bad teams that you've beaten. Theres a bunch of UMass/Army/F_U's listed... Do you have a W/L record for those you've vanquished?

Your trollgame is weak, definitely not up to this board's standards.
You don't even cherry pick well "a lot of Mass, Army, F_U" is one each. And while yes UMass is 0-6, Army is 3-2, and the F_Us are a combined 5-4(3-0).
My inclination is to give you a link, but if it will speed your departure,I'll do that heavy lifting.

AAC vanquished G4s:
FIU3-1(2-0)
FAU 2-3(1-0)
Rice 1-4(1-1)
NTX 3-2(2-0)
SJSU 1-5(0-2)
Miami 2-3(1-0)
ULM 2-2(2-0)
ArkSt 1-2(0-0)
ULL 1-3(0-1)

Apparently, 9-4 in conference as a G4 gets you 0-9 vs American Pow6r
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RE: American vs nonPower
(10-01-2017 10:03 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(10-01-2017 09:35 AM)TheOriginalBigApp Wrote:  
(10-01-2017 08:46 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  
(08-20-2017 08:35 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  The league has 22 match ups vs teams from nonPower leagues. The league must win most of them to keep the American ranked high.
Here are the match ups

Vs CUSA- 6 games
FIU at UCF. 61-17 win
Marshall at UC 21-38 loss
UTSA at Houston cancelled
Rice at Houston 38-3 win
Navy at FAU 42-19 win
North Texas at SMU 54-32 win
Tulane at FIU

Vs MWC- 3 games
Air Force vs Navy
USF at San Jose State 42-22 win
New Mexico at Tulsa 13-16 loss

Vs MAC- 2 games American goes 1-1
UC at Miami Oh 21-17 win
Tulsa at Toledo 51-54 loss

Vs SunBelt-4 games American goes 3-0
LaMonroe at Memphis. 37-29 win
Memphis at Georgia State cancelled
Arkansas State at SMU 44-21 win
LaLafayette at Tulsa 66-42 win

Vs Independents- 6 games
BYU at ECU
Army at Navy
Mass at USF cancelled
Mass at Temple 29-21 win
Temple at Army
Army at Tulane 21-17 win

American is now 11-3

Most of those are some really bad teams that you've beaten. Theres a bunch of UMass/Army/F_U's listed... Do you have a W/L record for those you've vanquished?

Your trollgame is weak, definitely not up to this board's standards.
You don't even cherry pick well "a lot of Mass, Army, F_U" is one each. And while yes UMass is 0-6, Army is 3-2, and the F_Us are a combined 5-4(3-0).
My inclination is to give you a link, but if it will speed your departure,I'll do that heavy lifting.

AAC vanquished G4s:
FIU3-1(2-0)
FAU 2-3(1-0)
Rice 1-4(1-1)
NTX 3-2(2-0)
SJSU 1-5(0-2)
Miami 2-3(1-0)
ULM 2-2(2-0)
ArkSt 1-2(0-0)
ULL 1-3(0-1)

Apparently, 9-4 in conference as a G4 gets you 0-9 vs American Pow6r

Trollgame? Fella, if I wanted to troll you I definitely could and you wouldn't realize it until days later...I've asked a relevant question, and didn't cherry-pick. Do you need remedial maff? there are SEVERAL games against UMASS(2)/F_U (3)/Army(3)--that's 8 total for your maff skillz--on the list above.

-Yes, FIU is 3-1. So far they've beaten FCS/HBCU Alcorn St, Rice (1-4) and Charlotte (0-5), and all 7-pts or less wins;
-yes, FAU is 2-3. So far they've mastered FCS/HBCU Bethune-Cookman and Middle Tennessee (2-3);
-Rice's lone win? against 0-5 UTEP;
-North Texas? 3-2 (FCS Lamar, Southern Miss, revived UAB) and probably the best team you listed;
-San Jose St (1-5), lone win against FCS Cal-Poly;
-Miami (2-3) beat Austin Peay & Central Michigan;
-ULM (2-2) one score game at Memphis; beat two 1-3 teams (UL/Coastal);
-Ark State (1-2), lone win against FCS/HBCU Arkansas-Pine Bluff;
-UL (1-3) lone win against FCS SE Louisiana.

So, yes congrats on patting yourself on the back for scheduling and beating some really BAD teams who, if they even have a win, won against worse teams.

You've (for the most part) beaten the teams you should have beaten. I applaud the AAC for that.

Just because you get triggered, doesn't mean it's 'trolling'.
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G4 butt hurt is strong
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(10-01-2017 02:38 PM)TheOriginalBigApp Wrote:  
(10-01-2017 10:03 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(10-01-2017 09:35 AM)TheOriginalBigApp Wrote:  
(10-01-2017 08:46 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  
(08-20-2017 08:35 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  The league has 22 match ups vs teams from nonPower leagues. The league must win most of them to keep the American ranked high.
Here are the match ups

Vs CUSA- 6 games
FIU at UCF. 61-17 win
Marshall at UC 21-38 loss
UTSA at Houston cancelled
Rice at Houston 38-3 win
Navy at FAU 42-19 win
North Texas at SMU 54-32 win
Tulane at FIU

Vs MWC- 3 games
Air Force vs Navy
USF at San Jose State 42-22 win
New Mexico at Tulsa 13-16 loss

Vs MAC- 2 games American goes 1-1
UC at Miami Oh 21-17 win
Tulsa at Toledo 51-54 loss

Vs SunBelt-4 games American goes 3-0
LaMonroe at Memphis. 37-29 win
Memphis at Georgia State cancelled
Arkansas State at SMU 44-21 win
LaLafayette at Tulsa 66-42 win

Vs Independents- 6 games
BYU at ECU
Army at Navy
Mass at USF cancelled
Mass at Temple 29-21 win
Temple at Army
Army at Tulane 21-17 win

American is now 11-3

Most of those are some really bad teams that you've beaten. Theres a bunch of UMass/Army/F_U's listed... Do you have a W/L record for those you've vanquished?

Your trollgame is weak, definitely not up to this board's standards.
You don't even cherry pick well "a lot of Mass, Army, F_U" is one each. And while yes UMass is 0-6, Army is 3-2, and the F_Us are a combined 5-4(3-0).
My inclination is to give you a link, but if it will speed your departure,I'll do that heavy lifting.

AAC vanquished G4s:
FIU3-1(2-0)
FAU 2-3(1-0)
Rice 1-4(1-1)
NTX 3-2(2-0)
SJSU 1-5(0-2)
Miami 2-3(1-0)
ULM 2-2(2-0)
ArkSt 1-2(0-0)
ULL 1-3(0-1)

Apparently, 9-4 in conference as a G4 gets you 0-9 vs American Pow6r

Trollgame? Fella, if I wanted to troll you I definitely could and you wouldn't realize it until days later...I've asked a relevant question, and didn't cherry-pick. Do you need remedial maff? there are SEVERAL games against UMASS(2)/F_U (3)/Army(3)--that's 8 total for your maff skillz--on the list above.

-Yes, FIU is 3-1. So far they've beaten FCS/HBCU Alcorn St, Rice (1-4) and Charlotte (0-5), and all 7-pts or less wins;
-yes, FAU is 2-3. So far they've mastered FCS/HBCU Bethune-Cookman and Middle Tennessee (2-3);
-Rice's lone win? against 0-5 UTEP;
-North Texas? 3-2 (FCS Lamar, Southern Miss, revived UAB) and probably the best team you listed;
-San Jose St (1-5), lone win against FCS Cal-Poly;
-Miami (2-3) beat Austin Peay & Central Michigan;
-ULM (2-2) one score game at Memphis; beat two 1-3 teams (UL/Coastal);
-Ark State (1-2), lone win against FCS/HBCU Arkansas-Pine Bluff;
-UL (1-3) lone win against FCS SE Louisiana.

So, yes congrats on patting yourself on the back for scheduling and beating some really BAD teams who, if they even have a win, won against worse teams.

You've (for the most part) beaten the teams you should have beaten. I applaud the AAC for that.

Just because you get triggered, doesn't mean it's 'trolling'.
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(10-01-2017 09:23 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  Running total, regular season AAC vs G4, 2015-2017:
29-5.

Adding in exhibition games still 30-13, .698

Are bowl games not officially counted? Exhibition games? I count Houston's win over Florida St in the Peach Bowl as an official game, not an exhibition game.
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(10-01-2017 03:06 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  
(10-01-2017 09:23 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  Running total, regular season AAC vs G4, 2015-2017:
29-5.

Adding in exhibition games still 30-13, .698

Are bowl games not officially counted? Exhibition games? I count Houston's win over Florida St in the Peach Bowl as an official game, not an exhibition game.

It is a preemptive poke at the G4 fans who focus on bowl record at the exclusion of our regular season dominance. They act as if bowls were the end-all be-all; in reality there is a widespread narrative out there that outside the CFP or the NY6 bowls are meaningless. This is the core argument if the annual spate of "there are too many bowl games" columns, and this narraative was amplified last year with guys like Fournette and McCaffrey skipping them.
Technically, though, yeah that is kind of the definition of a Bowl - a post season exhibition game. Until recently - 2002 - bowl game stats weren't added to a player's career stats.
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