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RE: They park on the grass at the Penal Farm (Shelby Farms) too?
(09-02-2017 02:38 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  But were totally cool with shutting down a taxpayer funded city park for the better part of 6 weeks to destroy it and charge fees to go there while we do it. (Tom Lee Park). Oh and during one of the nicest times (weather wise) to enjoy the expansive park.

But we'll instead get all pissed about a small plot of land that some hackey-sackers and jugglers might use.

Okay.

The park and Riverside Drive. Would you stop it if you could? Move to Tiger Lane?
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(09-02-2017 08:47 AM)memtigbb Wrote:  I am all for the zoo taking whatever it needs. You want woods, go somewhere else. The Zoo is a great, great place.

If only you knew the horrors of that Zoo. Many Memphians cannot just "go somewhere else." You obviously don't "get" the uniqueness of a historic, Kessler-designed urban park, and the value of green space in the middle of a large city.

And the Zoo does not in any way NEED to park on the Greensward. For decades now, they have preferred to put their money into new caged animal exhibits rather than responsibly planning for their parking needs with a parking garage on land they already have.

And btw, my friend, those woods just ain't "any" woods. That is a very rare 10,000 year old forest in the middle of a city with a very unique and invaluable plant and animal life diversity, to be preserved and enjoyed and studied for future generations.
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(09-02-2017 08:13 AM)3rdgenerationtiger Wrote:  
(09-01-2017 03:10 PM)21-17 Best Time I Ever Ha Wrote:  
(09-01-2017 01:03 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  So we don't like parking on grass? Do we prefer they pave the grass first?

No, we don't like our Zoo doing a land grab of the Greensward grass in order to expand their exhibits all the way to Poplar, so they can have that "front door" presence. We also don't like them cutting down mature trees next to the Greensward and on their 17-acre Old Forest land. And the reason WHY we try to protect as much grass in our main historic park is because the citizens of Memphis need a large park in the center of their city for recreation, nature, walking, hiking, biking, dog walking, sports, peace, and the great diversity of citizens that use it at all times of the day. The green area is used for large festivals, soccer games, picnics, and other activities that require a lot of room. We also decry the fact that the grass is not ADA compliant and we have seen people in wheelchairs struggle to get out of their cars and over the mud ruts.

And the other reason the Zoo's land grab is so egregious is that Overton Park was designed by the world-renowned landscape architect, George Kessler, who designed parks all over this country in the early 20th Century. It was designed as a working whole with a cohesive design for vistas and views and the flow of people through the park. Most other great cities do not allow their historic parks to be carved up into parking lots on grass. The Memphis Zoo has been a horrible neighbor to the other entities in the park, are NOT the world class zoo they claim to be, treat their employees like dirt and sell their old animals to canned hunting ranches, and serve mostly as an amusement park for visitors from Mississippi and Arkansas. The citizens of Memphis subsidize their operations to the tune of thousands of dollars because they are not self-sustaining.

Maybe we should build a wall and make Mississippi and Arkansas pay for it.

Tommy West wanted to build a wall.
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(09-02-2017 09:21 AM)nutbushtiger Wrote:  Probably in the minority but I liked Shelby Farms better when you had to park on the grass, when it was more natural. I know most love all the changes but its starting to look like an amusement park to me.

I agree.
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(09-02-2017 11:15 AM)karter25 Wrote:  
(09-02-2017 10:58 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(09-02-2017 08:47 AM)memtigbb Wrote:  I am all for the zoo taking whatever it needs. You want woods, go somewhere else. The Zoo is a great, great place.

I'm glad we have smarter leaders than you. Thank you Steve Cohen and Mayor Strickland for protecting one of Memphis' true civic treasures from the SUV driving suburbanites who try to put their vehicles in a city park.

If Cohen didn't live across the street, I doubt he would have gotten involved. The people that enjoy the park over there aren't exactly the demographic that he normally helps.

And THAT comment is what tells me you never go to Overton Park. The people who enjoy that park are the most diverse group of folks you will ever see in this city and they are, in fact, Congressman Cohen's core constituency. And he would have gotten involved no matter where he lived. In fact, he kicked the Zoo's attorney out of his living room for the old man's attempts to have Greensward oreaceful protectors arrested for no reason.
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(09-02-2017 11:19 AM)UofMark Wrote:  
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(09-02-2017 08:47 AM)memtigbb Wrote:  I am all for the zoo taking whatever it needs. You want woods, go somewhere else. The Zoo is a great, great place.

I'm glad we have smarter leaders than you. Thank you Steve Cohen and Mayor Strickland for protecting one of Memphis' true civic treasures from the SUV driving suburbanites who try to put their vehicles in a city park.

Agree with you. One issue that *conveniently* gets overlooked and not spoken about much... The Levitt Shell. A great Midtown amenity. When that place is packed cars are parked in the grass along every road in the park plus the evil Memphis Zoo allows their parking lot to be used free. These aren't suburbanites suv's either. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

No, the Zoo's parking lot is frequently closed to patrons of the Shell, the Art Academy, and the Brooks, and the Zoo had to be strong-armed into opening their lot at times for Shell events. Cars at Shell events rarely park on the grass, although on at least one occasion, they parked on the golf course. And the evil Memphis Zoo's paved parking lot belongs as much to the citizens of Memphis as it does to them because taxpayers subsidize the Zoo to the tune of thousands of dollars. The Zoo is not self-sustaining, and their recordkeeping of the money they make is very haphazard and they are in violation of monthly financial reporting that they owe the City. I would love to see the records on the money they make selling animals to canned hunting ranches. Some of those gazelles go for thousands of dollars.
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(09-02-2017 11:20 AM)karter25 Wrote:  
(09-02-2017 08:47 AM)memtigbb Wrote:  I am all for the zoo taking whatever it needs. You want woods, go somewhere else. The Zoo is a great, great place.

I am confused. How can the Zoo charge someone $10 to park on land that they don't own or control? If I want to, can I go downtown and charge people to park on the street?

The park was there first. The Zoo hasn't wanted to spend the money to fix the parking problem. They don't want to park people near the maintenance barn on E Parkway and shuttle them to the zoo. They didn't want to modify the existing parking spaces to handle more cars. They just want to charge people to park on PUBLIC property and keep the money.

Bingo! And how can they keep taxpayers out of the north part of the Greensward with barricades, and threaten to have them arrested, and HAVE had them arrested if they attempt to use the park they paid for?

But the $10, undocumented, illegal, cash cow Greensward parking is not what is driving their aggression. It is the fact that they need to and want to keep building exhibits all the way to Poplar; in essence, destroy the entire greenspace of the park. Their multimillion dollar exhibits have a shelf life of about 2-3 years, and then the newness wears off, and they need another "draw", kind of like a new thrill ride at an amusement park. If you will notice the new Hippo exhibit, the actual space for the hippos takes us only a small part of that area; the majority of the space was built for a corporate and Zoo party space. Your tax dollars at work.
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They are selling gazelles to hunting ranches.

o that's sad to know.
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(09-02-2017 11:30 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(09-02-2017 11:19 AM)UofMark Wrote:  
(09-02-2017 10:58 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(09-02-2017 08:47 AM)memtigbb Wrote:  I am all for the zoo taking whatever it needs. You want woods, go somewhere else. The Zoo is a great, great place.

I'm glad we have smarter leaders than you. Thank you Steve Cohen and Mayor Strickland for protecting one of Memphis' true civic treasures from the SUV driving suburbanites who try to put their vehicles in a city park.

Agree with you. One issue that *conveniently* gets overlooked and not spoken about much... The Levitt Shell. A great Midtown amenity. When that place is packed cars are parked in the grass along every road in the park plus the evil Memphis Zoo allows their parking lot to be used free. These aren't suburbanites suv's either. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

I prefer parking along the side of the park roads to simply parking them in the greensward, which people actually use (can't say the side of park roads get used for anything useful).

EDIT: moreover, the Zoo isn't 'evil' but Chuck Brady sure needs to take a PR course or two... (or three, or four)

Five Buck Chuck? Well, not only does he need a PR course, his wife could use one, too. Flipping the bird to peaceful protesters as she comes out of a fancy Zoo party is not becoming of a Bartlett schools art teacher. And you may not think selling old and sick hooved animals to canned hunting ranches and covering it up is evil, but I do. We saw an old trailer leaving the Zoo parking lot last summer and were told to get out of the area. Where is the income from that practice documented in the Zoo's books? Using bullhooks on miserable elephants is more than a little bit disturbing, too; one of our Zoo's elephant managers even gave an out-of-state seminar a few years ago on how to use them. Bullying his own employees into attending the City Council hearing about the Zoo's parking, and herding them onto a bus to go downtown, was also characteristic of the bully, megalomaniac whom no one seems to like, and who even managed to highly irritate Richard Smith. I figure Mr. Brady must have the goods on lots of people to be able to stay in his position of power and continue to destroy the park, when all he had to do is build a parking garage in his own little fiefdom.
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(09-02-2017 01:53 PM)karter25 Wrote:  
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(09-02-2017 01:39 PM)karter25 Wrote:  They continue to re-elect him yet their standard of living is horrible and the large numbers of people in his district living in poverty remains very large.

I don't buy into the 'us vs them' mentality pushed by local conservatives. Folks in Germantown/Collierville/Bartlett need to realize Shelby County is in this together with Memphis. Without Memphis and all the jobs it provides via FedEx, AutoZone, International Paper, ServiceMaster, St Jude, The UofM, CBU, etc...there would be no wealthy suburbs.

Memphis needs to consolidate like Nashville.

Lucky for me and most with any intelligence, I DON'T live in Memphis.

How did the Consolidated School system do in those state test scores that were released this past week?

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Memphis doesn't miss you. It is full of intelligent, caring people who love everything if offers, are aware of all it offers, and are pitching in to make it even better. The thousands of young professionals who are moving here make huge salaries and are driving the Midtown and Downtown developments and the skyrocketing housing prices.
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(09-02-2017 11:05 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  They are selling gazelles to hunting ranches.

o that's sad to know.

They have been doing it for decades. One of our zookeepers was on 60 Minutes in the early 1980's admitting to that fact. In those days, many zoos sold their older animals to hunting ranches, particularly in Texas which had hundreds of them, until they were outed by a national humane group. It was and is a lucrative business, with hunting ranches paying thousands of dollars for some exotic animals, esp. lions and tigers. The animals are let loose in a contained space, sick, and sometimes drugged, and shot at by guys who couldn't hit the broad side of a barn and who like to bring home pictures of themselves with African animals they supposedly tracked down and killed. It's really sick. The saddest part is that many of these animals were born in captivity and have little fear of humans, and would right right up to these would-be hunters.
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(09-02-2017 11:28 PM)21-17 Best Time I Ever Ha Wrote:  
(09-02-2017 11:05 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  They are selling gazelles to hunting ranches.

o that's sad to know.

They have been doing it for decades. One of our zookeepers was on 60 Minutes in the early 1980's admitting to that fact. In those days, many zoos sold their older animals to hunting ranches, particularly in Texas which had hundreds of them, until they were outed by a national humane group. It was and is a lucrative business, with hunting ranches paying thousands of dollars for some exotic animals, esp. lions and tigers. The animals are let loose in a contained space, sick, and sometimes drugged, and shot at by guys who couldn't hit the broad side of a barn and who like to bring home pictures of themselves with African animals they supposedly tracked down and killed. It's really sick. The saddest part is that many of these animals were born in captivity and have little fear of humans, and would right right up to these would-be hunters.

But the head goes on the wall just the same.
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(09-02-2017 11:20 PM)21-17 Best Time I Ever Ha Wrote:  
(09-02-2017 01:53 PM)karter25 Wrote:  
(09-02-2017 01:45 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(09-02-2017 01:39 PM)karter25 Wrote:  They continue to re-elect him yet their standard of living is horrible and the large numbers of people in his district living in poverty remains very large.

I don't buy into the 'us vs them' mentality pushed by local conservatives. Folks in Germantown/Collierville/Bartlett need to realize Shelby County is in this together with Memphis. Without Memphis and all the jobs it provides via FedEx, AutoZone, International Paper, ServiceMaster, St Jude, The UofM, CBU, etc...there would be no wealthy suburbs.

Memphis needs to consolidate like Nashville.

Lucky for me and most with any intelligence, I DON'T live in Memphis.

How did the Consolidated School system do in those state test scores that were released this past week?

Drops the mic!!!

Memphis doesn't miss you. It is full of intelligent, caring people who love everything if offers, are aware of all it offers, and are pitching in to make it even better. The thousands of young professionals who are moving here make huge salaries and are driving the Midtown and Downtown developments and the skyrocketing housing prices.

When those young professionals move into Memphis, you can bet they aren't sending their kids to Hamilton, Southside or Northside. They are lining up for 2 days to get their kids into White Station or doing the private schools. While the board gives Dorsey a raise and a contract extension, test scores continue to suffer. The Memphis poverty rate continues to escalate. The number of students eligible for free breakfast and lunch is unbelievable and despite the efforts of the man you bow down to, Steve Cohen, the standard of living for a great many of Memphians has not improved. The job gains and the building boom in many parts of the city has not trickled down to the areas that need it most. While you live in your cocoon of security and improved property values, the people in the New Chicago, South Memphis and Orange Mound neighborhoods live in crime ridden environments and in housing that in many times doesn't have electricity or running water. You talk about what you see going on in Memphis but I am sure you only visit the good parts, which there are many. I am all over the city on a daily basis, the good and bad. The good areas are getting better. The bad areas are getting worse and those areas are growing pretty fast.
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(09-03-2017 08:02 AM)karter25 Wrote:  
(09-02-2017 11:20 PM)21-17 Best Time I Ever Ha Wrote:  
(09-02-2017 01:53 PM)karter25 Wrote:  
(09-02-2017 01:45 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(09-02-2017 01:39 PM)karter25 Wrote:  They continue to re-elect him yet their standard of living is horrible and the large numbers of people in his district living in poverty remains very large.

I don't buy into the 'us vs them' mentality pushed by local conservatives. Folks in Germantown/Collierville/Bartlett need to realize Shelby County is in this together with Memphis. Without Memphis and all the jobs it provides via FedEx, AutoZone, International Paper, ServiceMaster, St Jude, The UofM, CBU, etc...there would be no wealthy suburbs.

Memphis needs to consolidate like Nashville.

Lucky for me and most with any intelligence, I DON'T live in Memphis.

How did the Consolidated School system do in those state test scores that were released this past week?

Drops the mic!!!

Memphis doesn't miss you. It is full of intelligent, caring people who love everything if offers, are aware of all it offers, and are pitching in to make it even better. The thousands of young professionals who are moving here make huge salaries and are driving the Midtown and Downtown developments and the skyrocketing housing prices.

When those young professionals move into Memphis, you can bet they aren't sending their kids to Hamilton, Southside or Northside. They are lining up for 2 days to get their kids into White Station or doing the private schools. While the board gives Dorsey a raise and a contract extension, test scores continue to suffer. The Memphis poverty rate continues to escalate. The number of students eligible for free breakfast and lunch is unbelievable and despite the efforts of the man you bow down to, Steve Cohen, the standard of living for a great many of Memphians has not improved. The job gains and the building boom in many parts of the city has not trickled down to the areas that need it most. While you live in your cocoon of security and improved property values, the people in the New Chicago, South Memphis and Orange Mound neighborhoods live in crime ridden environments and in housing that in many times doesn't have electricity or running water. You talk about what you see going on in Memphis but I am sure you only visit the good parts, which there are many. I am all over the city on a daily basis, the good and bad. The good areas are getting better. The bad areas are getting worse and those areas are growing pretty fast.

you can rant about the schools all you like (hell, I've even admitted that issue needs to be addressed) but Cohen is not in charge of the school system...that said he has sent thousands of kids to college via hope scholarships.
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(09-03-2017 08:34 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(09-03-2017 08:02 AM)karter25 Wrote:  
(09-02-2017 11:20 PM)21-17 Best Time I Ever Ha Wrote:  
(09-02-2017 01:53 PM)karter25 Wrote:  
(09-02-2017 01:45 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  I don't buy into the 'us vs them' mentality pushed by local conservatives. Folks in Germantown/Collierville/Bartlett need to realize Shelby County is in this together with Memphis. Without Memphis and all the jobs it provides via FedEx, AutoZone, International Paper, ServiceMaster, St Jude, The UofM, CBU, etc...there would be no wealthy suburbs.

Memphis needs to consolidate like Nashville.

Lucky for me and most with any intelligence, I DON'T live in Memphis.

How did the Consolidated School system do in those state test scores that were released this past week?

Drops the mic!!!

Memphis doesn't miss you. It is full of intelligent, caring people who love everything if offers, are aware of all it offers, and are pitching in to make it even better. The thousands of young professionals who are moving here make huge salaries and are driving the Midtown and Downtown developments and the skyrocketing housing prices.

When those young professionals move into Memphis, you can bet they aren't sending their kids to Hamilton, Southside or Northside. They are lining up for 2 days to get their kids into White Station or doing the private schools. While the board gives Dorsey a raise and a contract extension, test scores continue to suffer. The Memphis poverty rate continues to escalate. The number of students eligible for free breakfast and lunch is unbelievable and despite the efforts of the man you bow down to, Steve Cohen, the standard of living for a great many of Memphians has not improved. The job gains and the building boom in many parts of the city has not trickled down to the areas that need it most. While you live in your cocoon of security and improved property values, the people in the New Chicago, South Memphis and Orange Mound neighborhoods live in crime ridden environments and in housing that in many times doesn't have electricity or running water. You talk about what you see going on in Memphis but I am sure you only visit the good parts, which there are many. I am all over the city on a daily basis, the good and bad. The good areas are getting better. The bad areas are getting worse and those areas are growing pretty fast.

you can rant about the schools all you like (hell, I've even admitted that issue needs to be addressed) but Cohen is not in charge of the school system...that said he has sent thousands of kids to college via hope scholarships.

So he gets a lifetime of serving in Congress for something he did in the state legislature in 2001? Must be nice to have a lifetime job as a result of work you did 16 years ago.

He might not run the schools but his constituents rely on him to better their quality of life thru tax laws and other economic growth legislation. I don't see any quality of life improvements when I drive thru S. Memphis or Orange Mound. Like many politicians, he keeps promising to improve the education and quality of life for the voters, but the longer no improvements are made, the longer he can get re-elected making those same promises.
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(09-03-2017 09:03 AM)karter25 Wrote:  
(09-03-2017 08:34 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(09-03-2017 08:02 AM)karter25 Wrote:  
(09-02-2017 11:20 PM)21-17 Best Time I Ever Ha Wrote:  
(09-02-2017 01:53 PM)karter25 Wrote:  Lucky for me and most with any intelligence, I DON'T live in Memphis.

How did the Consolidated School system do in those state test scores that were released this past week?

Drops the mic!!!

Memphis doesn't miss you. It is full of intelligent, caring people who love everything if offers, are aware of all it offers, and are pitching in to make it even better. The thousands of young professionals who are moving here make huge salaries and are driving the Midtown and Downtown developments and the skyrocketing housing prices.

When those young professionals move into Memphis, you can bet they aren't sending their kids to Hamilton, Southside or Northside. They are lining up for 2 days to get their kids into White Station or doing the private schools. While the board gives Dorsey a raise and a contract extension, test scores continue to suffer. The Memphis poverty rate continues to escalate. The number of students eligible for free breakfast and lunch is unbelievable and despite the efforts of the man you bow down to, Steve Cohen, the standard of living for a great many of Memphians has not improved. The job gains and the building boom in many parts of the city has not trickled down to the areas that need it most. While you live in your cocoon of security and improved property values, the people in the New Chicago, South Memphis and Orange Mound neighborhoods live in crime ridden environments and in housing that in many times doesn't have electricity or running water. You talk about what you see going on in Memphis but I am sure you only visit the good parts, which there are many. I am all over the city on a daily basis, the good and bad. The good areas are getting better. The bad areas are getting worse and those areas are growing pretty fast.

you can rant about the schools all you like (hell, I've even admitted that issue needs to be addressed) but Cohen is not in charge of the school system...that said he has sent thousands of kids to college via hope scholarships.

He might not run the schools but his constituents rely on him to better their quality of life

he has...see post #27

http://csnbbs.com/thread-825681-post-145...id14547717

THAT is why he keeps getting re-elected.
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(09-03-2017 09:07 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
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(09-03-2017 08:34 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(09-03-2017 08:02 AM)karter25 Wrote:  
(09-02-2017 11:20 PM)21-17 Best Time I Ever Ha Wrote:  Memphis doesn't miss you. It is full of intelligent, caring people who love everything if offers, are aware of all it offers, and are pitching in to make it even better. The thousands of young professionals who are moving here make huge salaries and are driving the Midtown and Downtown developments and the skyrocketing housing prices.

When those young professionals move into Memphis, you can bet they aren't sending their kids to Hamilton, Southside or Northside. They are lining up for 2 days to get their kids into White Station or doing the private schools. While the board gives Dorsey a raise and a contract extension, test scores continue to suffer. The Memphis poverty rate continues to escalate. The number of students eligible for free breakfast and lunch is unbelievable and despite the efforts of the man you bow down to, Steve Cohen, the standard of living for a great many of Memphians has not improved. The job gains and the building boom in many parts of the city has not trickled down to the areas that need it most. While you live in your cocoon of security and improved property values, the people in the New Chicago, South Memphis and Orange Mound neighborhoods live in crime ridden environments and in housing that in many times doesn't have electricity or running water. You talk about what you see going on in Memphis but I am sure you only visit the good parts, which there are many. I am all over the city on a daily basis, the good and bad. The good areas are getting better. The bad areas are getting worse and those areas are growing pretty fast.

you can rant about the schools all you like (hell, I've even admitted that issue needs to be addressed) but Cohen is not in charge of the school system...that said he has sent thousands of kids to college via hope scholarships.

He might not run the schools but his constituents rely on him to better their quality of life

he has...see post #27

http://csnbbs.com/thread-825681-post-145...id14547717

THAT is why he keeps getting re-elected.

Another person living in a cocoon of safety and economic growth. What about the other 75% of his voters who live in poverty and crime ridden neighborhoods who have seen crime rates escalate to historic numbers. I doubt many people that live at Manassas and Chelsea have visited the river crossing.
09-03-2017 09:47 AM
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(09-03-2017 09:47 AM)karter25 Wrote:  
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(09-03-2017 09:03 AM)karter25 Wrote:  
(09-03-2017 08:34 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(09-03-2017 08:02 AM)karter25 Wrote:  When those young professionals move into Memphis, you can bet they aren't sending their kids to Hamilton, Southside or Northside. They are lining up for 2 days to get their kids into White Station or doing the private schools. While the board gives Dorsey a raise and a contract extension, test scores continue to suffer. The Memphis poverty rate continues to escalate. The number of students eligible for free breakfast and lunch is unbelievable and despite the efforts of the man you bow down to, Steve Cohen, the standard of living for a great many of Memphians has not improved. The job gains and the building boom in many parts of the city has not trickled down to the areas that need it most. While you live in your cocoon of security and improved property values, the people in the New Chicago, South Memphis and Orange Mound neighborhoods live in crime ridden environments and in housing that in many times doesn't have electricity or running water. You talk about what you see going on in Memphis but I am sure you only visit the good parts, which there are many. I am all over the city on a daily basis, the good and bad. The good areas are getting better. The bad areas are getting worse and those areas are growing pretty fast.

you can rant about the schools all you like (hell, I've even admitted that issue needs to be addressed) but Cohen is not in charge of the school system...that said he has sent thousands of kids to college via hope scholarships.

He might not run the schools but his constituents rely on him to better their quality of life

he has...see post #27

http://csnbbs.com/thread-825681-post-145...id14547717

THAT is why he keeps getting re-elected.

Another person living in a cocoon of safety and economic growth. What about the other 75% of his voters who live in poverty and crime ridden neighborhoods who have seen crime rates escalate to historic numbers. I doubt many people that live at Manassas and Chelsea have visited the river crossing.

new girl just started at our pharmacy a few months back and lives in the New Chicago area with her kid (who attends a local charter school)...they're regulars at Bass Pro Pyramid, Big River Crossing, and Alex's Tavern (they swear by their burgers and I agree). They did the Mud Island tour a week ago and enjoyed it.

stop acting like it's Rwanda, damn.
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RE: They park on the grass at the Penal Farm (Shelby Farms) too?
(09-03-2017 10:00 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(09-03-2017 09:47 AM)karter25 Wrote:  
(09-03-2017 09:07 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(09-03-2017 09:03 AM)karter25 Wrote:  
(09-03-2017 08:34 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  you can rant about the schools all you like (hell, I've even admitted that issue needs to be addressed) but Cohen is not in charge of the school system...that said he has sent thousands of kids to college via hope scholarships.

He might not run the schools but his constituents rely on him to better their quality of life

he has...see post #27

http://csnbbs.com/thread-825681-post-145...id14547717

THAT is why he keeps getting re-elected.

Another person living in a cocoon of safety and economic growth. What about the other 75% of his voters who live in poverty and crime ridden neighborhoods who have seen crime rates escalate to historic numbers. I doubt many people that live at Manassas and Chelsea have visited the river crossing.

new girl just started at our pharmacy a few months back and lives in the New Chicago area with her kid (who attends a local charter school)...they're regulars at Bass Pro Pyramid, Big River Crossing, and Alex's Tavern (they swear by their burgers and I agree). They did the Mud Island tour a week ago and enjoyed it.

stop acting like it's Rwanda, damn.

Whatever you say boss. You HEAR about it from others. I SEE it everyday on the job. Get out and drive down Majuba and Kansas. Drive down Latham and Mallory and tell me those people are visiting Bass Pro and Mud Island and ask them if their way of life is better than it was 10 years ago.
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RE: They park on the grass at the Penal Farm (Shelby Farms) too?
(09-03-2017 10:06 AM)karter25 Wrote:  
(09-03-2017 10:00 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(09-03-2017 09:47 AM)karter25 Wrote:  
(09-03-2017 09:07 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(09-03-2017 09:03 AM)karter25 Wrote:  He might not run the schools but his constituents rely on him to better their quality of life

he has...see post #27

http://csnbbs.com/thread-825681-post-145...id14547717

THAT is why he keeps getting re-elected.

Another person living in a cocoon of safety and economic growth. What about the other 75% of his voters who live in poverty and crime ridden neighborhoods who have seen crime rates escalate to historic numbers. I doubt many people that live at Manassas and Chelsea have visited the river crossing.

new girl just started at our pharmacy a few months back and lives in the New Chicago area with her kid (who attends a local charter school)...they're regulars at Bass Pro Pyramid, Big River Crossing, and Alex's Tavern (they swear by their burgers and I agree). They did the Mud Island tour a week ago and enjoyed it.

stop acting like it's Rwanda, damn.

Whatever you say boss. You HEAR about it from others. I SEE it everyday on the job. Get out and drive down Majuba and Kansas. Drive down Latham and Mallory and tell me those people are visiting Bass Pro and Mud Island and ask them if their way of life is better than it was 10 years ago.

what a martyr, lol...I have gladly volunteered time and money to help less fortunate kids at the Neighborhood School in Binghampton. I have driven down each of those roads, thanks you very much. 07-coffee3
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