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RE: ABC News' Libelous Fake News; Labels Prominent Religious Liberty Org as "Hate Group"
(07-15-2017 11:31 AM)john01992 Wrote:  
(07-15-2017 03:57 AM)BlazerFan11 Wrote:  
(07-15-2017 12:21 AM)john01992 Wrote:  
(07-14-2017 11:10 PM)BlazerFan11 Wrote:  johnnyzero, you are so utterly clueless and hypocritical that you don't even realize how much this also applies to you and others on the left with the "17 intelligence agencies" lie and other baseless Manchurian candidate conspiracy theories. Instead of admitting you were wrong, you tried to spin it as "4/17 is the same as 17/17" and never even addressed that the spokesmen and spokeswomen of those agencies were proven liars who produced zero evidence to support their claims, even though you continue to criticize conservative's sources on here for prior lies or distortions.

(07-14-2017 07:29 PM)john01992 Wrote:  the entire left-wing media pushed a false story that was disproven by a basic google search. there was never any evidence to support it, but they were dealing with a story detrimental to the liberal cause so something needed to be done to give liberals the moral high ground on said story. so a completely BS story was presented as factual and believed by conservatives simply because the liberals needed it to be true.

59% of Democrats believe Russia tampered with vote totals

http://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cum...Report.pdf

what are you talking about? who are the dems that have advocated the notion that Russia directly hacked the election vote results? in the months after the election that was never stated by a notable dem nor did a major media source ever make that claim. the only time such a notion was ever brought up in the MSM was when REPUBLICANS said it. They figured they could discredit the libs if they (falsely) accused the libs of claiming it was about hacking vote totals because that is a ridiculous notion that is clearly false.

it wasn't even until June that anything even closely resembling the possibility of impacting votes directly was brought up in the russian scandal. and that was over reports of russia might have tried to hack/remove voters from the voter rolls. but that postdates all the time from after the election to last month when this story was covered on an almost daily basis and your own poll.

speaking of which your poll is pretty crap. The only places it has been published are reddit, twitter, some no-name websites, and dailycaller. not fox news let alone abc, cbs, etc. why? because it's not newsworthy at all nor is it being taken seriously.

I guess you fell for the republicans BS hook, line, and sinker.

^^Another great example. You don't like the poll results because it makes Dems look like idiots, so it's crap. I guess The Economist and YouGov are part of the giant Russian conspiracy in your mind. So you think the mainstream outlets would focus on a poll that highlights how their ridiculous coverage has caused people to believe something that isn't real? Just Google "Russia election hacking" and see the results. Time, NYT, and CNN were the first three media outlets that showed up, using "election hacking" or a similar phrase. The NYT even has an entire section dedicated to it. I'm sure you'll just try to discredit the source like you always do, but here is a good article on media manipulation.

https://extranewsfeed.com/poll-mass-medi...cd0e7e9d17

more like I see a glaring red flag when your poll results are only be taken seriously by dailycaller and some no name website. I see that same line of questioning also showing republicans polling far higher than dems on anti-vaxers, shows an even higher percentage of republicans believe millions of illegals voted in the election* than the 59%** of dems who believe in hacked election vote totals. not to mention your argument falls to **** when you see how many cons believe in pizzagate. seriously: a republican trying to claim the dems are more vulnerable to conspiracy theories is like starting a landwar with Russia in winter.

*there are multiple spin room conservatives who believe this very conspiracy theory so you can't deny it's popularity.

**from what I can tell that poll asks the same question at multiple intervals since the election with the results being far lower than that 59% figure. It appears Daily Caller was selective and took the highest result which is prime example #1 of why I am not taking this seriously.

prime example #2 is that republicans believe conspiracy theories and push that towards actual policy. is there not a major voting commission whose existence republicans support that is based entirely on a debunked conspiracy theory that illegals are responsible for trump losing the PV? did we not see a pizzashop get shot up over pizzagate and had controversy in the cabinet confirmation process when the son of a nominee tweeted out pizzagate?

any notion of the dems promote this conspiracy theory as policy is unfounded. as I said the only time I have ever seen it brought up has been by a REPUBLICAN which is ironic as I would love to see you explain why you were the only to mention it rather than myself, tom, red, or mach.

and I have the basic news literacy to understand that "russian election hacking" does not automatically mean hacked vote totals in a headline. you read a headline and come up with a completely different conclusion.

and non of this refutes my original point. The OP calls CNN/ABC "fake news" while promoting debunked news stories and you don't have a response to that. you have nothing but a sidetrack because it is such a killer point that you and kronke wouldn't be working so hard to not address it. so let's go back to the very point I made in the OP that you never addressed (because you can't).

how can someone who got burned twice in one week by false right-wing media stories argue in good faith or good conscience that CNN/ABC is fake news?

So many problems with this, it's hard to even know where to begin.

First off, the mainstream outlets aren't exactly experts on polls, are they? Or do you live in a parallel universe where Hillary won in a landslide, like their polls said she would? Do you really expect them to report on things that further undermine their credibility? You are doing the exact same thing that you are criticizing Kronke for doing. How can you hold up the mainstream outlets as the golden standard when they have been caught faking news (RUSSIA HACKS US ELECTRICAL GRID!!!)? You try to bolster your argument by anecdotally bringing up a few people on here who believe in PizzaGate while dismissing a scientific poll just because you didn't like the result. "Election hacking" clearly implies that the election itself was tampered with, which is precisely why do many Democrats now believe that. You see that verbiage prominently on mainstream sites because that is the narrative they want people to believe. They could easily clear it up, but they choose not to. Instead, they go around talking about "election hacking" as if it is a proven fact, when the truth is that Russia *might* have hacked the DNC, although there has been absolutely no credible evidence of that made public. Yet, Democrats go around parroting that and truly believe lies such as "17 intelligence agencies" lie (fromwhich originated from James Clapper, a guy who literally committed perjury on national television and has even since himself admitted it was false) You and them are just two different sides of the same dirty coin. You, Mach, cb, etc. are no better than the PizzaGaters or birthers, so stop acting like it.
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(07-15-2017 12:59 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  What's your limit on criminal statues for LGBT persons? You down with execution like in Russia today?

Debunked fake news. You must have missed this..

http://csnbbs.com/thread-815044-post-144...id14405936

(06-19-2017 07:51 PM)Kronke Wrote:  Vice News report finds no evidence of this being true.


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(07-14-2017 07:29 PM)john01992 Wrote:  ....

So not addressing this then?
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(07-15-2017 10:22 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  What should be the limit for criminal penalties for being Gay? Execution? 50 years of torture in jail? Where does the ADF draw the line? I don't see any line drawn.

I believe they should be identical to the penalties for not baking a cake for a gay wedding.... Maybe if we tie those two things together we can move on.
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(07-16-2017 09:28 AM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  
(07-15-2017 10:22 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  What should be the limit for criminal penalties for being Gay? Execution? 50 years of torture in jail? Where does the ADF draw the line? I don't see any line drawn.

I believe they should be identical to the penalties for not baking a cake for a gay wedding.... Maybe if we tie those two things together we can move on.

LOL. So in order for you to oppose jailings, beatings, and even execution for being Gay, LGBT persons have to accept being discriminated against in public commerce?

I don't think that's a deal. Because that would encourage the anti-Gays to engage in more violence against LGBT persons so they can use it as leverage.

What you are proposing is little different IMHO from Southerners in the 60's offering to investigate and punish lynchings if Black people stop attempting to secure equal rights in the 1960s.

Either you're for executions and jailings or you're not. Make your choice.
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(07-16-2017 02:11 AM)Kronke Wrote:  
(07-15-2017 12:59 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  What's your limit on criminal statues for LGBT persons? You down with execution like in Russia today?

Debunked fake news. You must have missed this..

http://csnbbs.com/thread-815044-post-144...id14405936

(06-19-2017 07:51 PM)Kronke Wrote:  Vice News report finds no evidence of this being true.



Its not fake news. Over 100 missing. Over 27 dead. Multiple sources. Of course, no one will go on camera because the Russians will kill anyone who comes forward.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_concen...n_Chechnya 95 sources in the Wikipedia article.

BTW, the first Concentration Camp in Argun was demolished before the Vice News team arrived. Why did they bulldoze it?
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(07-16-2017 10:45 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(07-16-2017 09:28 AM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  
(07-15-2017 10:22 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  What should be the limit for criminal penalties for being Gay? Execution? 50 years of torture in jail? Where does the ADF draw the line? I don't see any line drawn.

I believe they should be identical to the penalties for not baking a cake for a gay wedding.... Maybe if we tie those two things together we can move on.

LOL. So in order for you to oppose jailings, beatings, and even execution for being Gay, LGBT persons have to accept being discriminated against in public commerce?

I don't think that's a deal. Because that would encourage the anti-Gays to engage in more violence against LGBT persons so they can use it as leverage.

What you are proposing is little different IMHO from Southerners in the 60's offering to investigate and punish lynchings if Black people stop attempting to secure equal rights in the 1960s.

Either you're for executions and jailings or you're not. Make your choice.

Comprehension. Get you some.
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(07-16-2017 10:45 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(07-16-2017 09:28 AM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  
(07-15-2017 10:22 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  What should be the limit for criminal penalties for being Gay? Execution? 50 years of torture in jail? Where does the ADF draw the line? I don't see any line drawn.

I believe they should be identical to the penalties for not baking a cake for a gay wedding.... Maybe if we tie those two things together we can move on.

LOL. So in order for you to oppose jailings, beatings, and even execution for being Gay, LGBT persons have to accept being discriminated against in public commerce?

I don't think that's a deal. Because that would encourage the anti-Gays to engage in more violence against LGBT persons so they can use it as leverage.

What you are proposing is little different IMHO from Southerners in the 60's offering to investigate and punish lynchings if Black people stop attempting to secure equal rights in the 1960s.

Either you're for executions and jailings or you're not. Make your choice.



Posts and discussions like this verify your depravity and insanity.

Woe is you on judgement day my poor friend.
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(07-16-2017 11:03 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  
(07-16-2017 10:45 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(07-16-2017 09:28 AM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  
(07-15-2017 10:22 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  What should be the limit for criminal penalties for being Gay? Execution? 50 years of torture in jail? Where does the ADF draw the line? I don't see any line drawn.

I believe they should be identical to the penalties for not baking a cake for a gay wedding.... Maybe if we tie those two things together we can move on.

LOL. So in order for you to oppose jailings, beatings, and even execution for being Gay, LGBT persons have to accept being discriminated against in public commerce?

I don't think that's a deal. Because that would encourage the anti-Gays to engage in more violence against LGBT persons so they can use it as leverage.

What you are proposing is little different IMHO from Southerners in the 60's offering to investigate and punish lynchings if Black people stop attempting to secure equal rights in the 1960s.

Either you're for executions and jailings or you're not. Make your choice.



Posts and discussions like this verify your depravity and insanity on these issues.

Woe is you on judgement day my poor friend.

Does Jesus support throwing Gay people into jail for existing? How about rounding them up and killing them like in Russia? Just curious about your "Christianity".
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(07-16-2017 11:06 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
Does Jesus support throwing Gay people into jail for existing?
How about rounding them up and killing them like in Russia? Just curious about your "Christianity".



No, and neither do a vast majority of Americans.

This is only a threat in your twisted imagination.

Gays are actually being mass murdered simply for being gay in other parts of the world, and they don't have governmental protection like you have here.

People like me are happy to live in peace with you. What you do in your bedroom is your business.
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