(07-13-2017 01:51 PM)AndShock Wrote:  

(07-13-2017 09:12 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(07-13-2017 09:08 AM)Moody Magic Wrote:  

(07-13-2017 08:51 AM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(07-13-2017 08:14 AM)Moody Magic Wrote:  Are you serious?? You're telling a program that won the national championship in 2014, their 4th in the past twenty years, to be relevant again? And you're doing this when your greatest accomplishmeht ever is a final four appearance. Do you know ignorant that makes you look?

Hell SMU is 7-2 against UConn since the start of the AAC. We have two conference Championships to their none but I'd never talk trash to them unless it was in a very subtle way like pointing out the above because they have the national championships.

BTW, I'm calling it right now, UConn will beat WSU in Hartford/Storrs.

Actually, we have one. 2016, I believe, was the year we won it. We lost to Kansas in the 2nd round of the NCAA Tournament. Something that I'm sure excites Wichita fans.

Sorry, but UConn has never won an AAC conference championship, actually never even come close (best finish was 13-14 when you tied for 3rd)

Here are the champions:
13-14: Louisville & Cincinnati were co-chair
14-15: SMU
15-16: Temple
16-17: SMU

He was talking about conference tournament.

So UConn fans are the equivalent of Creighton fans. This should be fun.

No, we actually can back it up with trophies.

Also, maybe you should get to know the conference you recently joined. In the old Big East, the conference tournament champion was referred to as the conference champion. The regular season was all about seeding for the Championship. Since the AAC is the offspring of the old Big East, it adopted most of the same rules/viewpoints. You shouldn't be surprised to hear many UCONN, UC, and USF fans refer to the tournament champion as the conference champion.

I've always considered the regular season champion the true champion, especially when it comes to major conferences. Let's be honest, conference tournaments are just about tv money. For the one bid leagues it is everything, not so much for the P5s, BE and AAC. As for the old Big East, didn't the venue have a lot to do with the perceived importance of the tournament? I remember when we joined the BE for about a month, the first thing I thought about was getting to play in the BE tournament at MSG.

(07-13-2017 02:18 PM)Moody Magic Wrote:  I've always considered the regular season champion the true champion, especially when it comes to major conferences. Let's be honest, conference tournaments are just about tv money. For the one bid leagues it is everything, not so much for the P5s, BE and AAC. As for the old Big East, didn't the venue have a lot to do with the perceived importance of the tournament? I remember when we joined the BE for about a month, the first thing I thought about was getting to play in the BE tournament at MSG.

It's about winning the games on the big stage when it matters the most. The fact that the auto-bid goes to the tournament champion tells me the conference tournament is more important.

Hypothetical:

- SMU goes an undefeated 34-0 in the regular season next year, ranked #1 in the country and securing the #1 overall seed
- Cincinnati goes 24-10 (including 3 losses to SMU)
- SMU gets knocked out of the big dance in the Elite 8, while Cincinnati goes on to win the National Championship

Are you one of those people who are going to argue that SMU was better and had a better season (similar to Louisville fans in 2014)?

(07-13-2017 02:36 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(07-13-2017 02:18 PM)Moody Magic Wrote:  I've always considered the regular season champion the true champion, especially when it comes to major conferences. Let's be honest, conference tournaments are just about tv money. For the one bid leagues it is everything, not so much for the P5s, BE and AAC. As for the old Big East, didn't the venue have a lot to do with the perceived importance of the tournament? I remember when we joined the BE for about a month, the first thing I thought about was getting to play in the BE tournament at MSG.

It's about winning the games on the big stage when it matters the most. The fact that the auto-bid goes to the tournament champion tells me the conference tournament is more important.

Hypothetical:

- SMU goes an undefeated 34-0 in the regular season next year, ranked #1 in the country and securing the #1 overall seed
- Cincinnati goes 24-10 (including 3 losses to SMU)
- SMU gets knocked out of the big dance in the Elite 8, while Cincinnati goes on to win the National Championship

Are you one of those people who are going to argue that SMU was better and had a better season (similar to Louisville fans in 2014)?

Not at all. The NCAA tourney is a totally different beast. I would trade a conference regular season or tournament championship for one NCAA tourney win. Ultimately, a program is measured on a national level by what they do in the NCAA tourney. That said, I still think conference championships are important and should not be taken lightly. Especially, if you play in a strong league like the AAC.

(07-13-2017 01:11 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:  

(07-13-2017 11:33 AM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  Comments like these indicate you have no idea the depth or endurance of Shocker Nation. We're actually more calm when we're winning. This is our good side. A fanbase of trolls we've been called before with myself being the worst kind. But see? We're all warm and fuzzy now comparatively.


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You've moved uptown now. You need to learn to act right instead of behaving like nouveau riche hillbillies.

You'll never find a surplus of "class" in the Shocker Nation. We're angry for a host of reasons and we carry a fairly substantial chip... just like our coach who once said, we can't make you respect us, but we can keep you from disrespecting us.

We're more than happy to settle it on the court.


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(07-13-2017 02:47 PM)Moody Magic Wrote:  

(07-13-2017 02:36 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(07-13-2017 02:18 PM)Moody Magic Wrote:  I've always considered the regular season champion the true champion, especially when it comes to major conferences. Let's be honest, conference tournaments are just about tv money. For the one bid leagues it is everything, not so much for the P5s, BE and AAC. As for the old Big East, didn't the venue have a lot to do with the perceived importance of the tournament? I remember when we joined the BE for about a month, the first thing I thought about was getting to play in the BE tournament at MSG.

It's about winning the games on the big stage when it matters the most. The fact that the auto-bid goes to the tournament champion tells me the conference tournament is more important.

Hypothetical:

- SMU goes an undefeated 34-0 in the regular season next year, ranked #1 in the country and securing the #1 overall seed
- Cincinnati goes 24-10 (including 3 losses to SMU)
- SMU gets knocked out of the big dance in the Elite 8, while Cincinnati goes on to win the National Championship

Are you one of those people who are going to argue that SMU was better and had a better season (similar to Louisville fans in 2014)?

Not at all. The NCAA tourney is a totally different beast. I would trade a conference regular season or tournament championship for one NCAA tourney win. Ultimately, a program is measured on a national level by what they do in the NCAA tourney. That said, I still think conference championships are important and should not be taken lightly. Especially, if you play in a strong league like the AAC.

The NCAA tourney is also a crapshoot. I wouldn't trade 34 games of a great season, including a regular season and conf. tourney championship for 1 NCAA win. Now, you start talking about getting to the S16 and beyond and I think it's a different argument. Especially since you presumably had a reasonably successful season just to get in the tourney to begin with.

But I am one of the aforementioned people that still puts weight on regular season results. I think conference championships are cool. I think conference tourney wins are icing on a cake, but not particularly substantive. I do think repeated conference championships without NCAA success starts to feel hollow after a while. I would bet repeated NCAA success without conference championships would not feel that hollow, perhaps just annoying.

(07-13-2017 03:14 PM)Wudizzle Wrote:  

(07-13-2017 02:47 PM)Moody Magic Wrote:  

(07-13-2017 02:36 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(07-13-2017 02:18 PM)Moody Magic Wrote:  I've always considered the regular season champion the true champion, especially when it comes to major conferences. Let's be honest, conference tournaments are just about tv money. For the one bid leagues it is everything, not so much for the P5s, BE and AAC. As for the old Big East, didn't the venue have a lot to do with the perceived importance of the tournament? I remember when we joined the BE for about a month, the first thing I thought about was getting to play in the BE tournament at MSG.

It's about winning the games on the big stage when it matters the most. The fact that the auto-bid goes to the tournament champion tells me the conference tournament is more important.

Hypothetical:

- SMU goes an undefeated 34-0 in the regular season next year, ranked #1 in the country and securing the #1 overall seed
- Cincinnati goes 24-10 (including 3 losses to SMU)
- SMU gets knocked out of the big dance in the Elite 8, while Cincinnati goes on to win the National Championship

Are you one of those people who are going to argue that SMU was better and had a better season (similar to Louisville fans in 2014)?

Not at all. The NCAA tourney is a totally different beast. I would trade a conference regular season or tournament championship for one NCAA tourney win. Ultimately, a program is measured on a national level by what they do in the NCAA tourney. That said, I still think conference championships are important and should not be taken lightly. Especially, if you play in a strong league like the AAC.

The NCAA tourney is also a crapshoot. I wouldn't trade 34 games of a great season, including a regular season and conf. tourney championship for 1 NCAA win. Now, you start talking about getting to the S16 and beyond and I think it's a different argument. Especially since you presumably had a reasonably successful season just to get in the tourney to begin with.

But I am one of the aforementioned people that still puts weight on regular season results. I think conference championships are cool. I think conference tourney wins are icing on a cake, but not particularly substantive. I do think repeated conference championships without NCAA success starts to feel hollow after a while. I would bet repeated NCAA success without conference championships would not feel that hollow, perhaps just annoying.

It has been a longtime since we've won a tournament game so SMU might view it a little differently. We didn't just lose our last two NCAA tourney games (UCLA 2015 & USC 2017) but in both we were the better team, had comfortable leads in the second half and lost both by one point in heart-breaking fashion. It's the joy of being an SMU fan.

"An Arch Madness trophy is better than a Final Four" - Doug McDermott

Sounds like UConn fans share the same sentiment.

(07-13-2017 04:02 PM)AndShock Wrote:  "An Arch Madness trophy is better than a Final Four" - Doug McDermott

Sounds like UConn fans share the same sentiment.

False. UConn has the F4s and NCs. Creighton idiots don't know what they are talking about.

These Creighton/UCONN comparisons are bizarre.

(07-13-2017 05:05 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  These Creighton/UCONN comparisons are bizarre.

Only fanbases I know that care about conference tournament championships.

(07-13-2017 05:08 PM)AndShock Wrote:  

(07-13-2017 05:05 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  These Creighton/UCONN comparisons are bizarre.

Only fanbases I know that care about conference tournament championships.

No. I said I prefer winning the conference tournament over winning the regular season.

I'm a tournament guy - NCAA/Conference/Preseason. And it doesn't hurt that my school is usually pretty damn good in them.

(07-13-2017 02:36 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(07-13-2017 02:18 PM)Moody Magic Wrote:  I've always considered the regular season champion the true champion, especially when it comes to major conferences. Let's be honest, conference tournaments are just about tv money. For the one bid leagues it is everything, not so much for the P5s, BE and AAC. As for the old Big East, didn't the venue have a lot to do with the perceived importance of the tournament? I remember when we joined the BE for about a month, the first thing I thought about was getting to play in the BE tournament at MSG.

It's about winning the games on the big stage when it matters the most. The fact that the auto-bid goes to the tournament champion tells me the conference tournament is more important.

Hypothetical:

- SMU goes an undefeated 34-0 in the regular season next year, ranked #1 in the country and securing the #1 overall seed
- Cincinnati goes 24-10 (including 3 losses to SMU)
- SMU gets knocked out of the big dance in the Elite 8, while Cincinnati goes on to win the National Championship

Are you one of those people who are going to argue that SMU was better and had a better season (similar to Louisville fans in 2014)?

I know that's a hypothetical... but as a UC fan, I would take that in a heartbeat. SMU carries the banner for the conference in the regular season, then we get the glory of winning it all at the end.

That's actually kind of what UConn's last title in 2014 was like. Louisville and Cincinnati had the better regular seasons, splitting the conference regular season championship at 15-3, while UConn was in a 3-way tie for 3rd at 12-6. Louisville then won the AAC tournament, but UConn went on to win the whole tournament.

(07-13-2017 04:02 PM)AndShock Wrote:  "An Arch Madness trophy is better than a Final Four" - Doug McDermott

Sounds like UConn fans share the same sentiment.

He didn't really say that did he?


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(07-13-2017 08:14 AM)Moody Magic Wrote:  

(07-12-2017 11:04 PM)WSUbballer Wrote:  

(07-12-2017 10:41 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(07-12-2017 09:56 PM)WSUbballer Wrote:  

(07-12-2017 09:45 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

Feels good.

Is the guy on the right the one every UCon fan wants fired?

I'm guessing the lack of a second N in UCONN is some special dig that you Wichita fans have for winners like us? Funny.

As to your question, no rational UCONN fan wants "the guy on the right" fired. That's just something ginned up by fans of the other 10 AAC schools. They hate us cuz they ain't us. Just ask that Cincy troll who answered your question for UCONN fans. He totally has the pulse of Husky Nation.

FYI: that guy on the right is named Kevin Ollie and he's done something your pathetic HC has never done...won a championship.

With Calhoun scraps.

Your entire program is defined by one person. And now you're seeing the reality of the situation. And then of course, you blame it on the AAC, instead of your own shortcomings.

Just please be relevant again before the Big East totally forgets about you.

Are you serious?? You're telling a program that won the national championship in 2014, their 4th in the past twenty years, to be relevant again? And you're doing this when your greatest accomplishmeht ever is a final four appearance. Do you know ignorant that makes you look?

Hell SMU is 7-2 against UConn since the start of the AAC. We have two conference Championships to their none but I'd never talk trash to them unless it was in a very subtle way like pointing out the above because they have the national championships.

BTW, I'm calling it right now, UConn will beat WSU in Hartford/Storrs.

This x 100,000,000. UCONN four national titles in the last 20 years. WSU has what? One final four in the last 20 years? This WSU fan has zero clue about WTF he is posting. Pathetic.

(07-13-2017 05:36 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  

(07-13-2017 04:02 PM)AndShock Wrote:  "An Arch Madness trophy is better than a Final Four" - Doug McDermott

Sounds like UConn fans share the same sentiment.

He didn't really say that did he?


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That's probably not the exact quote. The intent was that he would take Creighton's MVC tournament championship over Wichita State's Final Four. In his defense, it was in an interview with Gottlieb who was obviously baiting him to say it. Anything to demean Wichita State and Gottlieb is all over it.

(07-13-2017 05:15 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(07-13-2017 05:08 PM)AndShock Wrote:  

(07-13-2017 05:05 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  These Creighton/UCONN comparisons are bizarre.

Only fanbases I know that care about conference tournament championships.

No. I said I prefer winning the conference tournament over winning the regular season.

I'm a tournament guy - NCAA/Conference/Preseason. And it doesn't hurt that my school is usually pretty damn good in them.

Not anymore unfortunately. And I do mean unfortunately. Beating you guys by 30 and then hearing "...but....but....TITLES?!?!?" is going to be obnoxious.

(07-13-2017 07:13 PM)AndShock Wrote:  

(07-13-2017 05:15 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(07-13-2017 05:08 PM)AndShock Wrote:  

(07-13-2017 05:05 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  These Creighton/UCONN comparisons are bizarre.

Only fanbases I know that care about conference tournament championships.

No. I said I prefer winning the conference tournament over winning the regular season.

I'm a tournament guy - NCAA/Conference/Preseason. And it doesn't hurt that my school is usually pretty damn good in them.

Not anymore unfortunately. And I do mean unfortunately. Beating you guys by 30 and then hearing "...but....but....TITLES?!?!?" is going to be obnoxious.

But constantly reminding UCONN fans that you beat us by 30 all the damn time is not going to be obnoxious? Seriously?

(07-13-2017 07:13 PM)AndShock Wrote:  

(07-13-2017 05:15 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(07-13-2017 05:08 PM)AndShock Wrote:  

(07-13-2017 05:05 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  These Creighton/UCONN comparisons are bizarre.

Only fanbases I know that care about conference tournament championships.

No. I said I prefer winning the conference tournament over winning the regular season.

I'm a tournament guy - NCAA/Conference/Preseason. And it doesn't hurt that my school is usually pretty damn good in them.

Not anymore unfortunately. And I do mean unfortunately. Beating you guys by 30 and then hearing "...but....but....TITLES?!?!?" is going to be obnoxious.

You really do sound like a Louisville fan...but with far far less accomplishments.

(07-13-2017 07:34 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(07-13-2017 07:13 PM)AndShock Wrote:  

(07-13-2017 05:15 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(07-13-2017 05:08 PM)AndShock Wrote:  

(07-13-2017 05:05 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  These Creighton/UCONN comparisons are bizarre.

Only fanbases I know that care about conference tournament championships.

No. I said I prefer winning the conference tournament over winning the regular season.

I'm a tournament guy - NCAA/Conference/Preseason. And it doesn't hurt that my school is usually pretty damn good in them.

Not anymore unfortunately. And I do mean unfortunately. Beating you guys by 30 and then hearing "...but....but....TITLES?!?!?" is going to be obnoxious.

You really do sound like a Louisville fan...but with far far less accomplishments.

Out of all the fanbases that have came around ShockerNet, Louisville fans might have been the ones we got along with the best (except for Cold) so I guess that makes sense.