(06-17-2017 10:12 AM)ThunderDan49 Wrote:  

(06-17-2017 08:36 AM)gleadley Wrote:  

(06-17-2017 03:59 AM)ThunderDan49 Wrote:  

(06-17-2017 12:47 AM)SeattleVandals Wrote:  By my count thats 14 scholorship players at SU now. So the transfers might not be over yet

Well I know that GCU is going to be cutting one guy lose at least, depending on whether or not Benson is on scholarship. GCU may be working around the fact that he is a family member of faculty so he gets free tuition I believe, but don't quote me on that. If Benson is on scholarship, then two guys will be leaving from the program. If I was a betting man, I would put my money down on any combination of Matt, Shaq, or Boo being the two transferring.

It's also possible that someone loses their scholarship, but sticks around. Could a guy like Boo, who has already sat one season and lost 2 more to injury, really afford to transfer elsewhere and sit another year? Jackson graduated last Spring, so maybe. Shaq is a good change of pace from Benson & has strong relationships w/multiple guys on the team. I don't think he is going anywhere.

But if he was guaranteed a starting spot after DeWayne ran out of eligibility, he might not be too pleased with coming off the bench again.

I could be wrong, but Coach Majerle doesn't strike me as a coach who promises playing time.

Show up.
Work hard.
Compete.
Repeat.

I would have a hard time believing anyone is guaranteed anything on GCU's team. JB is probably the only player I am 100% confident predicting as a starter from Day 1. Everyone else has between now and Nov. to elevate their game.

On a little tangent, don't you think we put too much into being a "starter". Being one of the first 5 on the floor is great, but I want to see who is on the floor at the end of the game. That seems way more significant to me (unless it is garbage time).

Antonio Green lands at MTSU. Was bummed to see him leave the WAC, but way to land on his feet! Will be rooting for him to do well.

(06-20-2017 10:35 PM)gleadley Wrote:  Antonio Green lands at MTSU. Was bummed to see him leave the WAC, but way to land on his feet! Will be rooting for him to do well.

Maybe he wants to be more of a dunker lol?? They were putting on a show at their practice before their game against Florida in the tourney. But back to reality, he probably is a good fit to help them spread the floor.

That's ETSU. MTSU is an elite mid-major now though so good for him.

(06-21-2017 12:16 AM)Clarity Wrote:  That's ETSU. MTSU is an elite mid-major now though so good for him.

Oops my bad. I admittedly just read the TSU part

It is never good when the WAC's top players transfer to another conference. These are the players the WAC is trying to build their reputation around. I hope Green (and Huggins) does well but we can't afford these type of losses.

Green left because at the moment UTRVG isn't very good and Huggins left because of a coaching change and/or family issues. There isn't some sort of crisis.

(06-21-2017 12:50 AM)Clarity Wrote:  Green left because at the moment UTRVG isn't very good and Huggins left because of a coaching change and/or family issues. There isn't some sort of crisis.

NMSU can reload. They've always replenished their losses; players and coaches. But for the UTRGV program, losing Green is a setback for Hill. Although not a crisis losing good players still slows the conference's progress.

UTRGV isnt good, but Green was the young star the team was being built around. Before the transfers, I thought they could finish as high as 3 or 4 this year. They had other good young players too, but after Green left they just took 10 steps backwards.

(06-21-2017 10:35 AM)SeattleVandals Wrote:  UTRGV isnt good, but Green was the young star the team was being built around. Before the transfers, I thought they could finish as high as 3 or 4 this year. They had other good young players too, but after Green left they just took 10 steps backwards.

Just for the record, in the interview with the local paper Green said the main reason he was leaving was to be closer to his daughter and family. If UTRGV sucking was part of it he was polite and professional enough not to say it.

Many of the conference teams are on the upswing. Majerle and Barnes have turned D2 teams into legit teams to contend with, NMSU has a long lasting good record and much to the chagrin of other WAC teams will still be the team to beat in the WAC IMO. Jans is recruiting well and if he is as good a coach as advertised I don't think GCU and Bakersfield should be booking tickets to the Big Dance just yet, although, NMSU will have their hands full with both teams and can easily be dethroned by either of those teams. Utah Valley I think is the real dark horse. Excellent season last year beating BYU and NMSU on their home courts and taking Bakersfield to 4OTs in the tourney with almost everyone back and some really good newcomers. The rest of the WAC does not impress me. Seattle has still lot's to prove with a 1st year head coach, UMKC is not going to be better from the recruiting I have seen and huge losses to graduation and the vibe I get from UTRGV is not good, best returning player leaving and the coach to me just looks like a grouchy dude that doesn't connect with his players. I can obviously be 100 percent wrong on the perception but it just does not look good to me. Forget about Chicago State. How is that program even still existing?

(06-21-2017 10:35 AM)SeattleVandals Wrote:  UTRGV isnt good, but Green was the young star the team was being built around. Before the transfers, I thought they could finish as high as 3 or 4 this year. They had other good young players too, but after Green left they just took 10 steps backwards.

Yea it hurts losing green but he's not as elite as you all think he is. During conference play he got shut down by everyone. In both years he was here. In non conference he could do whatever he want's since no one really bothers to prepare for us.
And no we really didn't lose good young players. All the transfers were scrubs. I think we're better now than we've been in a long time. The bar isn't really set that high to begin with.

(06-22-2017 12:43 AM)Vaqueronation Wrote:  

(06-21-2017 10:35 AM)SeattleVandals Wrote:  UTRGV isnt good, but Green was the young star the team was being built around. Before the transfers, I thought they could finish as high as 3 or 4 this year. They had other good young players too, but after Green left they just took 10 steps backwards.

Yea it hurts losing green but he's not as elite as you all think he is. During conference play he got shut down by everyone. In both years he was here. In non conference he could do whatever he want's since no one really bothers to prepare for us.
And no we really didn't lose good young players. All the transfers were scrubs. I think we're better now than we've been in a long time. The bar isn't really set that high to begin with.

One of the guys who left was a 3-star RS Freshman. Unless I missed something, you would think thats a good young player based on potential. Cant remember his name as he isnt listed on VC now. Either way, good potential or lack of potential, its gone now

(06-23-2017 02:55 PM)SeattleVandals Wrote:  

(06-22-2017 12:43 AM)Vaqueronation Wrote:  

(06-21-2017 10:35 AM)SeattleVandals Wrote:  UTRGV isnt good, but Green was the young star the team was being built around. Before the transfers, I thought they could finish as high as 3 or 4 this year. They had other good young players too, but after Green left they just took 10 steps backwards.

Yea it hurts losing green but he's not as elite as you all think he is. During conference play he got shut down by everyone. In both years he was here. In non conference he could do whatever he want's since no one really bothers to prepare for us.
And no we really didn't lose good young players. All the transfers were scrubs. I think we're better now than we've been in a long time. The bar isn't really set that high to begin with.

One of the guys who left was a 3-star RS Freshman. Unless I missed something, you would think thats a good young player based on potential. Cant remember his name as he isnt listed on VC now. Either way, good potential or lack of potential, its gone now

He never played a minute for us. Not even at D1 school right now. No gain no loss.

Chi. St. adds 6'5", 220 John Joyce from the JUCO route. Started 29 games this past season. Wasn't a huge part of the offense, but has a decent basketball IQ and can shoot it from way downtown.

The player to watch for at UTRGV is Terry Winn, a UTEP transfer. He is a proven D1 player who despite his lack of height (6'6 or 6'7) should be a strong inside presence for them. If nothing else he will grab a ton of rebounds, and score some points inside.

(06-30-2017 07:23 PM)Columbia Blue Wrote:  The player to watch for at UTRGV is Terry Winn, a UTEP transfer. He is a proven D1 player who despite his lack of height (6'6 or 6'7) should be a strong inside presence for them. If nothing else he will grab a ton of rebounds, and score some points inside.

A former Miner? I'm sure Aggie fans hate him already! Haha

(06-30-2017 09:28 PM)gleadley Wrote:  A former Miner? I'm sure Aggie fans hate him already! Haha

Yes, Yes we do.

(06-23-2017 07:26 PM)Vaqueronation Wrote:  

(06-23-2017 02:55 PM)SeattleVandals Wrote:  

(06-22-2017 12:43 AM)Vaqueronation Wrote:  

(06-21-2017 10:35 AM)SeattleVandals Wrote:  UTRGV isnt good, but Green was the young star the team was being built around. Before the transfers, I thought they could finish as high as 3 or 4 this year. They had other good young players too, but after Green left they just took 10 steps backwards.

Yea it hurts losing green but he's not as elite as you all think he is. During conference play he got shut down by everyone. In both years he was here. In non conference he could do whatever he want's since no one really bothers to prepare for us.
And no we really didn't lose good young players. All the transfers were scrubs. I think we're better now than we've been in a long time. The bar isn't really set that high to begin with.

One of the guys who left was a 3-star RS Freshman. Unless I missed something, you would think thats a good young player based on potential. Cant remember his name as he isnt listed on VC now. Either way, good potential or lack of potential, its gone now

He never played a minute for us. Not even at D1 school right now. No gain no loss.

The loss is Adrean Johnson will never play for you. He was a 3-star for a reason with 9 other D1 offers including Colorado, MTSU, and Tulsa. And he was only redshirting. You could have had 4 years with him! While theres a chance with anyone they could be a bust, its foolish to me to blow it off like he didnt matter. A program like UTRGV was all potential, a roster of talented but young players. Now two big pieces are gone, and with Johnson, a guy with Pac 12 and really good mid major offers. In a literal sense, yes he never played but that's a very ignorant way of looking at it. Programs like UTRGV, Seattle U, any WAC program should embrace 3-star freshman.

(07-02-2017 12:34 PM)SeattleVandals Wrote:  

(06-23-2017 07:26 PM)Vaqueronation Wrote:  

(06-23-2017 02:55 PM)SeattleVandals Wrote:  

(06-22-2017 12:43 AM)Vaqueronation Wrote:  

(06-21-2017 10:35 AM)SeattleVandals Wrote:  UTRGV isnt good, but Green was the young star the team was being built around. Before the transfers, I thought they could finish as high as 3 or 4 this year. They had other good young players too, but after Green left they just took 10 steps backwards.

Yea it hurts losing green but he's not as elite as you all think he is. During conference play he got shut down by everyone. In both years he was here. In non conference he could do whatever he want's since no one really bothers to prepare for us.
And no we really didn't lose good young players. All the transfers were scrubs. I think we're better now than we've been in a long time. The bar isn't really set that high to begin with.

One of the guys who left was a 3-star RS Freshman. Unless I missed something, you would think thats a good young player based on potential. Cant remember his name as he isnt listed on VC now. Either way, good potential or lack of potential, its gone now

He never played a minute for us. Not even at D1 school right now. No gain no loss.

The loss is Adrean Johnson will never play for you. He was a 3-star for a reason with 9 other D1 offers including Colorado, MTSU, and Tulsa. And he was only redshirting. You could have had 4 years with him! While theres a chance with anyone they could be a bust, its foolish to me to blow it off like he didnt matter. A program like UTRGV was all potential, a roster of talented but young players. Now two big pieces are gone, and with Johnson, a guy with Pac 12 and really good mid major offers. In a literal sense, yes he never played but that's a very ignorant way of looking at it. Programs like UTRGV, Seattle U, any WAC program should embrace 3-star freshman.

I'll give you this point, but even with the losses I still think our potential this year is higher than its been in a long time.