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Also, you stated:

(05-09-2017 09:40 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  CJ leaving sets us back at least a year

Yes. A year, maybe a year and a half. I agree with you there. But where we differ is just how much it matters to win in McGrath's first year. We don't need immediate results. Even in Keatts' first year, we didn't have a great year, just a very good one.

What matters most is whether the program is in good hands in the long run.
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(05-09-2017 12:25 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  Also, you stated:

(05-09-2017 09:40 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  CJ leaving sets us back at least a year

Yes. A year, maybe a year and a half. I agree with you there. But where we differ is just how much it matters to win in McGrath's first year. We don't need immediate results. Even in Keatts' first year, we didn't have a great year, just a very good one.

What matters most is whether the program is in good hands in the long run.
While i agree with that general sentiment, it's disappointing because with CJ and a few chips falling our way we were still legitimately a top 4 team. Now if were top 4 i'd be shocked.
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There was a time in college basketball that players and coaches alike had at least a shred of decency. That time has passed and what you left with is a buisness model that can be very dark. Keatts should not sign any player from UNCW unless they go somewhere else for a year. Its called doing the next right thing.
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(05-09-2017 01:14 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  There was a time in college basketball that players and coaches alike had at least a shred of decency. That time has passed and what you left with is a buisness model that can be very dark. Keatts should not sign any player from UNCW unless they go somewhere else for a year. Its called doing the next right thing.

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Oh for the good ole' days. Coaches making $500k - $5 million per year, players dedicating themselves to sports where they get a scholarship, but barely enough beyond that to have any spending money. Everyone was rolling in the gravy...except the players. The schools did as they wished, allowing coaches to move on but not the players. Face it, it was always a business, it was just a business that benefited everyone EXCEPT the players. Keeping CJ away from Keatts harms CJ far more than it does Keatts or NCSU. If he wants to play for Keatts, it means he sees value in the relationship far beyond any others.
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(05-09-2017 02:08 PM)82hawk Wrote:  Face it, it was always a business, it was just a business that benefited everyone EXCEPT the players.

So they didn't get a FREE quality education? My education wasn't FREE was yours FREE? just curious
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Has anyone seen anything to say Bryce or any of our other current players are being recruited by Keatts, or are we arguing over what "might happen" here?
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Time to move on people. Nothing we can say or do to change anything now. We need to focus on the future. We need to get behind our program and support the future, with hopes it's​going in the right direction. It does no good biotch and moan and argue among ourselves. We've vented enough. Let's please move on and contribute positively to our future. If it goes sour, we can always revisit this then. The cards have been dealt. Let's play them.
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(05-09-2017 02:28 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  Time to move on people. Nothing we can say or do to change anything now. We need to focus on the future. We need to get behind our program and support the future, with hopes it's​going in the right direction. It does no good biotch and moan and argue among ourselves. We've vented enough. Let's please move on and contribute positively to our future. If it goes sour, we can always revisit this then. The cards have been dealt. Let's play them.

Yep. CJ's not looking back and neither should we. He won't even talk to the StarNews. I don't care for an explanation because we know the reason already.

I knew this was coming a long time ago. When we went away from Siddle as the choice then I felt it was all but a sure thing. However, I think C.B. offers a more viable long-term option for our program.

UNCW is a great place to live/play. We are much bigger than Keatts or any one player. Keatts didn't lead us anywhere we haven't been before. We're going to be alright.
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(05-09-2017 02:28 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  Time to move on people. Nothing we can say or do to change anything now. We need to focus on the future. We need to get behind our program and support the future, with hopes it's​going in the right direction. It does no good biotch and moan and argue among ourselves. We've vented enough. Let's please move on and contribute positively to our future. If it goes sour, we can always revisit this then. The cards have been dealt. Let's play them.
Well said.

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There's an article in today's News & Observer that bemoans the fluid nature of NCSU's roster. They have 2 players who are deciding whether to remain in the NBA draft. They have another player who has petitioned the NCAA for a 6th year. They are involved with 3 potential transfers. CJ Bryce is one of the 3.

Someone with a clue could post a link to the article. There's a huge picture of Keatts on the N&O's website.
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(05-09-2017 02:08 PM)82hawk Wrote:  Oh for the good ole' days. Coaches making $500k - $5 million per year, players dedicating themselves to sports where they get a scholarship, but barely enough beyond that to have any spending money. Everyone was rolling in the gravy...except the players. The schools did as they wished, allowing coaches to move on but not the players. Face it, it was always a business, it was just a business that benefited everyone EXCEPT the players. Keeping CJ away from Keatts harms CJ far more than it does Keatts or NCSU. If he wants to play for Keatts, it means he sees value in the relationship far beyond any others.

Exactly,todays players and coaches are all about me and what it means for me,me,me. Lost in all this crap is character and the lack of it. They don't have to do the right thing but they should. Money corrupts and basketball lost its soul years ago to the crooks that run travel basketball. Its just the way it is and its gonna get worse.
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http://www.backingthepack.com/2017/5/9/1...vin-keatts


Guess there is your proof CG. If he ends up there it will sell a few more tickets as I'll pay to get close enough to heckle both of them!
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(05-09-2017 04:08 PM)geezerhawkdad Wrote:  There's an article in today's News & Observer that bemoans the fluid nature of NCSU's roster. They have 2 players who are deciding whether to remain in the NBA draft. They have another player who has petitioned the NCAA for a 6th year. They are involved with 3 potential transfers. CJ Bryce is one of the 3.

Someone with a clue could post a link to the article. There's a huge picture of Keatts on the N&O's website.

Here's the article in question:

Kevin Keatts ‘still trying to figure out’ who’s on NC State’s roster
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I'm not sure that Bryce suspected he'd get a look from Gonzaga when he started all of this, but if he wants to be Luke Hancock and go from the CAA to a national championship team, then Raleigh isn't the place for him to go....
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(05-09-2017 02:49 PM)getmhawks Wrote:  
(05-09-2017 02:28 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  Time to move on people. Nothing we can say or do to change anything now. We need to focus on the future. We need to get behind our program and support the future, with hopes it's​going in the right direction. It does no good biotch and moan and argue among ourselves. We've vented enough. Let's please move on and contribute positively to our future. If it goes sour, we can always revisit this then. The cards have been dealt. Let's play them.

Yep. CJ's not looking back and neither should we. He won't even talk to the StarNews. I don't care for an explanation because we know the reason already.

I knew this was coming a long time ago. When we went away from Siddle as the choice then I felt it was all but a sure thing. However, I think C.B. offers a more viable long-term option for our program.

UNCW is a great place to live/play. We are much bigger than Keatts or any one player. Keatts didn't lead us anywhere we haven't been before. We're going to be alright.

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(05-09-2017 04:08 PM)geezerhawkdad Wrote:  There's an article in today's News & Observer that bemoans the fluid nature of NCSU's roster. They have 2 players who are deciding whether to remain in the NBA draft. They have another player who has petitioned the NCAA for a 6th year. They are involved with 3 potential transfers. CJ Bryce is one of the 3.

Someone with a clue could post a link to the article. There's a huge picture of Keatts on the N&O's website.

FWIW one of those guys (Kapita) as of right now has every intention to be back next year. The other guy looking into the draft (Yurtseven), was a potential late lottery pick by some draft sites prior to the season, but really had some trouble adjusting to the American-style game.

As for Henderson, the NCAA has been good to guys in similar situations to him in the past (and even granted a guy with a similar situation a 6th year just a few days ago). However, you just never know how consistent the NCAA will be.

As for Bryce, I had heard on Monday evening that he was planning an unofficial to State this weekend. Goodman confirmed that on Tuesday, but followed that up an hour later saying that Bryce may not take the visit this weekend after all. Bryce however did tell Goodman that State was his "at the top of his list" but he did want to keep his recruitment open. Can't blame the guy for wanting to take all of the visits he can.
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In other news, 2 days ago it was announced that W&M forward Jack Whitman, who elected to transfer earlier in the Spring, will be playing for Kansas. Immediately eligible.
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(05-10-2017 09:18 AM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  In other news, 2 days ago it was announced that W&M forward Jack Whitman, who elected to transfer earlier in the Spring, will be playing for Kansas. Immediately eligible.

I saw that, and immediate thought, is he that caliber? I don't remember being overly impressed.
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(05-10-2017 09:24 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(05-10-2017 09:18 AM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  In other news, 2 days ago it was announced that W&M forward Jack Whitman, who elected to transfer earlier in the Spring, will be playing for Kansas. Immediately eligible.

I saw that, and immediate thought, is he that caliber? I don't remember being overly impressed.

FWIW, I was told UNC also pursued Whitman.
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