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RE: Rank Division I programs in your state in terms of resources
(04-11-2017 09:26 AM)4x4hokies Wrote:  
(04-09-2017 10:52 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  UVA
VT


ODU
VCU

JMU
Richmond

W&M
GMU

Something like that
You left a lot off.

Virginia
Virginia Tech

Old Dominion
VA Commonwealth
Liberty
James Madison
George Mason
Richmond
William & Mary

VMI
Radford
Longwood
Norfolk state
Hampton
In Virginia, there are shifts occurring. At present I'd go with:

VT
VA
JMU (due to past FCS success)
ODU (newness of program)
Liberty (Liberty will eclipse JMU shortly with meaningful FBS games)

soon:
VT
VA
ODU/Liberty (simply because FBS FB)
GW
VCU

later
JMU
Richmond
VMI
and all the rest
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(04-11-2017 02:27 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Lower Divisions schools that have D1 programs people forget.

Johns Hopkins,
Caldwell-New Jersey
Hobart-New York
New Jersey City
Adelphi-New York
Kutztown
Lock Haven
Hartwick-New York
Columbus State
MIT
Ursinus
Bellarmine
North Georgia
Lock Haven
West Chester
Le Moyne
Dallas Baptist
Drury
Alaska-Anchorage
Penn. State-Behrend
Seattle Pacific
Concordia-Irvine
LIU-Post
Pace
New York Tech (private and large enrollment)
Quincy
SUNY-Oneonta
Hawaii-Hilo
American International
Bentley
Mercyhurst
Rochester Tech
Lindenwood-Missouri
Findlay
Wayne State-Michigan
Clarkson
St. Lawrence
Union-New York
Merrimack
Colorado College
Minn.-Duluth
St. Cloud State
UAH
Alaska
Bemidji State
Ferris State
Lake Superior State
Michigan Tech
Minnesota State-Mankato
Northern Michigan
St. Scholastica
Gogebic CC (skiing)
Gustavus Adolphus College
St. Olaf
Conn. College
Gannon
Monmouth, Illinois
Salem International
Washington & Jefferson
Carthage
Grove City
Macalester
Utica
McKendree
Springfield
Bates
Bowdoin
Colby
Colby-Sawyer
Middlebury
Plymouth State
Saint Michaels
U. Maine-Presque Isle
Williams
Bloomsburg
Clarion
Edinboro
Millersville
Azusa Pacific
Fresno Pacific
Bridgeport
Queens-New York
Saint Rose
Southern Conn. State
Baruch
Hunter
Lehman
New York Maritime
US Merchant Marine
Montclair State
Mount Saint Mary-New York
College of New Jersey
Ramapo
Rowan
Staten Island
William Patterson
John Jay
Coast Guard
University of the Science
Centenary-louisiana
Texas Women's
Lewis
Bryn Mawr College
Drew
Haverford
Mount Holyoke College
Smith
Stevens Tech
Swarthmore College
Yeshiva University
Colorado Mountain College
Westminster College (Utah)
Colorado Mines
Western State
Whitman College
University of California, San Diego
California State University, East Bay
California State University, Monterey Bay
Sonoma State University
Barton
Belmont Abbey
Emmanuel
Erskine
King-Tennessee
Lees-McRae
Limestone
Mount Olive
North Greenville
Pfeiffer (Conference Carolinas is in D1 for Men's Volleyball since D2 does not sponsor the sport.)
CIAA plays D1 women's bowling.
East Coast Conference sponsors D1 women's bowling.
MIAA sponsors D1 women's bowling.
Alderson Broaddus
Augusta
Bowie State
Cal State Los Angeles
Carson–Newman
Central Missouri
Charleston (WV)
Chestnut Hill
Chowan
Coker
Colorado Mesa
Daemen
Eckerd
Elizabeth City State
Fayetteville State
Erskine
Felician
Francis Marion
Franklin Pierce
Gannon
Johnson C. Smith
Limestone
Livingstone
Maryville, MO.
Molloy
Mount Olive
Post
Queens (NC)
Roberts Wesleyan
Saint Augustine's
Shaw
Spring Hill
Texas A&M-Kingsville
Ursuline
Virginia State
Virginia Union
Wilmington
Winona State

Adrian
Alma
Babson
Bowdoin
Brandeis
Caltech
Castleton State
CCNY
Cortland State
Elmhurst
Franklin & Marshall
Hamline
Ithaca
Massachusetts Maritime
Medaille
Nebraska Wesleyan
New Jersey City
NYU
Penn State Altoona
RPI
Rhode Island College
Rose–Hulman
Tufts
Vassar
Wellesley
Wilson (PA)
Wisconsin–Eau Claire
Wisconsin–La Crosse
Wisconsin–Oshkosh
Wisconsin–Stout
Wisconsin–Whitewater






Yeah, we have a lot of D2 and D3 schools for one sport or more at D1. This does not count the community colleges that compete in College Rodeo and some other sports, and some NAIA schools as well.
Someone has waaay to much time on their hands.
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(04-10-2017 09:06 AM)CenterSquarEd Wrote:  Purely by total expenditure reported to the DOE, New York State looks like this:

Syracuse University
St John's University
University at Buffalo
Fordham University
Columbia University
Cornell University
Colgate University
Stony Brook University
Hofstra University
University at Albany
LIU Brooklyn
Marist College
Binghamton University
Manhattan College
Wagner College
Siena College
Canisius College
Iona College
St Bonaventure University
Niagara University
St Francis College

But if you go by sport, here are the top 10 spenders in men's basketball:

Syracuse University (ACC)
St John's University (Big East)
Fordham University (A-10)
Siena College (MAAC)
St Bonaventure University (A-10)
Hofstra University (CAA)
Stony Brook University (Am East)
Iona College (MAAC)
Manhattan College (MAAC)
University at Buffalo (MAC)

And only 10 of these schools play football, so here are those team expenses:

Syracuse University (ACC)
University at Buffalo (MAC)
Fordham University (Patriot)
Colgate University (Patriot)
Stony Brook University (Colonial)
University at Albany (Colonial)
Columbia University (Ivy)
Wagner College (NEC)
Cornell University (Ivy)
Marist College (Pioneer)

Since football is the only important college sports, your list should be a short one:

Syracuse 5/10
Army 4/10
Buffalo 3/10

That is it! Because New York State is a football desert.
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(04-09-2017 07:03 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  CA returns 79 schools in NCAA and NAIA. You can go through it yourself at https://ope.ed.gov/athletics/#/

You can compare 4 at a time and get the numbers. No single total on expenses. You have to add recruiting (M & W), operations (M & W), Team (M & W) and unspecified expenses to arrive at the complete total for a school.

"unlimited funding"
USC
Stanford
"nearly $100m funding"
UC-Los Angeles
UC-Berkeley (for Cal this $95m figure includes huge in stadium debt service, leading to a $9m shortfall)
"$50m funding range"
SDSU
Fresno State
"40m funding range"


UC-Davis
SJSU
"20-25m range guessing the order, SCU probably first however"
CSU-Sacramento
Santa Clara
San Diego
San Francisco
"$13-19m range -- not in order"
Cal Poly San Luis Obispo
CSU-Long Beach
UC-Irvine
UC-Santa Barbara
CSU-Northridge
CSU-Fullerton
Pepperdine
Pacific
Loyola Marymount
UC-San Diego
CSU-Bakersfield

There are another 15+ D-II schools spending $3-6m range
CSU-LA, CSU-San Bernadino, HSU, SSU CSU-Monterey Bay, Cal Poly Pomona ... etc.

Fixed it for you Fresno and San Diego are both in the 40 Million range.
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(04-17-2017 12:47 AM)ArQ Wrote:  
(04-10-2017 09:06 AM)CenterSquarEd Wrote:  Purely by total expenditure reported to the DOE, New York State looks like this:

Syracuse University
St John's University
University at Buffalo
Fordham University
Columbia University
Cornell University
Colgate University
Stony Brook University
Hofstra University
University at Albany
LIU Brooklyn
Marist College
Binghamton University
Manhattan College
Wagner College
Siena College
Canisius College
Iona College
St Bonaventure University
Niagara University
St Francis College

But if you go by sport, here are the top 10 spenders in men's basketball:

Syracuse University (ACC)
St John's University (Big East)
Fordham University (A-10)
Siena College (MAAC)
St Bonaventure University (A-10)
Hofstra University (CAA)
Stony Brook University (Am East)
Iona College (MAAC)
Manhattan College (MAAC)
University at Buffalo (MAC)

And only 10 of these schools play football, so here are those team expenses:

Syracuse University (ACC)
University at Buffalo (MAC)
Fordham University (Patriot)
Colgate University (Patriot)
Stony Brook University (Colonial)
University at Albany (Colonial)
Columbia University (Ivy)
Wagner College (NEC)
Cornell University (Ivy)
Marist College (Pioneer)

Since football is the only important college sports, your list should be a short one:

Syracuse 4/10
Buffalo 3/10.

That is it! Because New York State is a football desert.

1. Football isn't the only important college sport. A Louisville fan should know that.
2. If your theory is that there is a 1/10 difference between SU and Buffalo, you clearly don't have a firm grasp on NY collegiate sports. Take any shots that you want at SU, but the Dome, an athletic budget that's usually in the top half of the ACC, and ACC membership (in general) are worth more than 1/10 vs a MAC school.
3. You forgot Army.
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(04-17-2017 07:45 AM)nzmorange Wrote:  
(04-17-2017 12:47 AM)ArQ Wrote:  
(04-10-2017 09:06 AM)CenterSquarEd Wrote:  Purely by total expenditure reported to the DOE, New York State looks like this:

Syracuse University
St John's University
University at Buffalo
Fordham University
Columbia University
Cornell University
Colgate University
Stony Brook University
Hofstra University
University at Albany
LIU Brooklyn
Marist College
Binghamton University
Manhattan College
Wagner College
Siena College
Canisius College
Iona College
St Bonaventure University
Niagara University
St Francis College

But if you go by sport, here are the top 10 spenders in men's basketball:

Syracuse University (ACC)
St John's University (Big East)
Fordham University (A-10)
Siena College (MAAC)
St Bonaventure University (A-10)
Hofstra University (CAA)
Stony Brook University (Am East)
Iona College (MAAC)
Manhattan College (MAAC)
University at Buffalo (MAC)

And only 10 of these schools play football, so here are those team expenses:

Syracuse University (ACC)
University at Buffalo (MAC)
Fordham University (Patriot)
Colgate University (Patriot)
Stony Brook University (Colonial)
University at Albany (Colonial)
Columbia University (Ivy)
Wagner College (NEC)
Cornell University (Ivy)
Marist College (Pioneer)

Since football is the only important college sports, your list should be a short one:

Syracuse 4/10
Buffalo 3/10.

That is it! Because New York State is a football desert.

1. Football isn't the only important college sport. A Louisville fan should know that.
2. If your theory is that there is a 1/10 difference between SU and Buffalo, you clearly don't have a firm grasp on NY collegiate sports. Take any shots that you want at SU, but the Dome, an athletic budget that's usually in the top half of the ACC, and ACC membership (in general) are worth more than 1/10 vs a MAC school.
3. You forgot Army.

Point taken. But neither of SU, Army and Buffalo has a passing grade.

In the past 20 years, basketball has fallen far behind football. It is no longer an important sports for colleges. In average, football generates four or five times more revenue for most universities.
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(04-17-2017 04:47 PM)ArQ Wrote:  
(04-17-2017 07:45 AM)nzmorange Wrote:  1. Football isn't the only important college sport. A Louisville fan should know that.
2. If your theory is that there is a 1/10 difference between SU and Buffalo, you clearly don't have a firm grasp on NY collegiate sports. Take any shots that you want at SU, but the Dome, an athletic budget that's usually in the top half of the ACC, and ACC membership (in general) are worth more than 1/10 vs a MAC school.
3. You forgot Army.

Point taken. But neither of SU, Army and Buffalo has a passing grade.

In the past 20 years, basketball has fallen far behind football. It is no longer an important sports for colleges. In average, football generates four or five times more revenue for most universities.

That's not universal. Basketball still earns about the same as football overall.

It's only for the very top schools that football brings in more revenue, and that's only because the NCAA steals most of the basketball money from top basketball schools for its revenue-sharing programs.
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(04-16-2017 08:42 PM)NewTimes Wrote:  In Virginia, there are shifts occurring. At present I'd go with:

VT
VA
JMU (due to past FCS success)
ODU (newness of program)
Liberty (Liberty will eclipse JMU shortly with meaningful FBS games)

Much as I hate to admit it as a Hokie, by this thread's metric, or any metric other than football, UVA would be on top. They have a bigger athletic budget, a much bigger endowment, sponsor more sports, have more national championships (VT's only nat'l title is in bass fishing - seriously), sponsor more sports. VT is a one-trick pony. Luckily it's the pony most people care about.
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(04-17-2017 07:59 PM)ColKurtz Wrote:  
(04-16-2017 08:42 PM)NewTimes Wrote:  In Virginia, there are shifts occurring. At present I'd go with:

VT
VA
JMU (due to past FCS success)
ODU (newness of program)
Liberty (Liberty will eclipse JMU shortly with meaningful FBS games)

Much as I hate to admit it as a Hokie, by this thread's metric, or any metric other than football, UVA would be on top. They have a bigger athletic budget, a much bigger endowment, sponsor more sports, have more national championships (VT's only nat'l title is in bass fishing - seriously), sponsor more sports. VT is a one-trick pony. Luckily it's the pony most people care about.

Maybe VT should put the bass trophy in that famously empty case.
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(04-17-2017 07:59 PM)ColKurtz Wrote:  
(04-16-2017 08:42 PM)NewTimes Wrote:  In Virginia, there are shifts occurring. At present I'd go with:

VT
VA
JMU (due to past FCS success)
ODU (newness of program)
Liberty (Liberty will eclipse JMU shortly with meaningful FBS games)

Much as I hate to admit it as a Hokie, by this thread's metric, or any metric other than football, UVA would be on top. They have a bigger athletic budget, a much bigger endowment, sponsor more sports, have more national championships (VT's only nat'l title is in bass fishing - seriously), sponsor more sports. VT is a one-trick pony. Luckily it's the pony most people care about.
Tis true that Mr. Jefferson's university has greater notoriety and recognition beyond the state borders, and that VT has been the equal or superior FB team the past 20+/- years minus a few up years for UVA. If the barometer is FB, then it's clearly VT. It it's awareness and academic status, UVA wins. One thing is for sure, Virginia is a two team race for awareness superiority and LU and ODU will club each other for 3rd place. The longer JMU languishes in FCS the farther they fall behind.
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(04-17-2017 12:47 AM)ArQ Wrote:  
(04-10-2017 09:06 AM)CenterSquarEd Wrote:  Purely by total expenditure reported to the DOE, New York State looks like this:

Syracuse University
St John's University
University at Buffalo
Fordham University
Columbia University
Cornell University
Colgate University
Stony Brook University
Hofstra University
University at Albany
LIU Brooklyn
Marist College
Binghamton University
Manhattan College
Wagner College
Siena College
Canisius College
Iona College
St Bonaventure University
Niagara University
St Francis College

But if you go by sport, here are the top 10 spenders in men's basketball:

Syracuse University (ACC)
St John's University (Big East)
Fordham University (A-10)
Siena College (MAAC)
St Bonaventure University (A-10)
Hofstra University (CAA)
Stony Brook University (Am East)
Iona College (MAAC)
Manhattan College (MAAC)
University at Buffalo (MAC)

And only 10 of these schools play football, so here are those team expenses:

Syracuse University (ACC)
University at Buffalo (MAC)
Fordham University (Patriot)
Colgate University (Patriot)
Stony Brook University (Colonial)
University at Albany (Colonial)
Columbia University (Ivy)
Wagner College (NEC)
Cornell University (Ivy)
Marist College (Pioneer)

Since football is the only important college sports, your list should be a short one:

Syracuse 5/10
Army 4/10
Buffalo 3/10

That is it! Because New York State is a football desert.

Overall I would rank 14 above all others:

Syracuse - Obviously

Army - Great history, location, could have an endless budget if the DOD allowed, solid facilities for NY State

Cornell - 'SUNY Ithaca' all right with amazing private/public resources, very nice facilities for a small college town, strong programs in wrestling, hockey, lax, among 1000 other sports

St John's - Edge over UB with location, BB history, budget

Buffalo - Only MAC AAU, the big state U where athletics haven't caught up with academics, thanks to James Starks, Khalil Mack and Bobby Hurley for adding some star power and hardware

Stony Brook - Great academics with AAU and growing in resources, now have to make some of the 2.8 Mil on Long Island forget the beaches, losing the Islanders, and high school lacrosse, and see the Seawolves

Albany - Dominant in AE athletics, caught my Bulls at the right time last season, still 2nd to $iena in Albany BB fandom. They would be higher if Albany were not a horrible metro for sports support, pro and college

Saint Bonaventure - Lucky at A-10 and a great fan following packing their arena in small town Olean, not much else

Siena - Wants A-10 bad, BB brings out 7k a night in a bad sports market, but not much else

Fordham - Lucky at A-10, meh fan following in their ancient gym, good FCS games now and then, not much else

Binghamton - Good new facilities, great school but not a growing market or latent resources

Columbia - Gobs of cash and scenic facilities, but doesn't seem to work as it does for Princeton, Harvard, etc

Colgate - A step behind Ivies in most ways, except strong FCS football and a general jock/activity-based culture on a very rural campus

Hofstra - Nice facilities for a larger NY area private, was smart to drop FB to focus on LAX and BB but scant great results in CAA, lapped by Stony Brook athletics for Long Island popularity
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(04-11-2017 02:27 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Lower Divisions schools that have D1 programs people forget.

Johns Hopkins,
Caldwell-New Jersey
Hobart-New York
New Jersey City
Adelphi-New York
Kutztown
Lock Haven
Hartwick-New York
Columbus State
MIT
Ursinus
Bellarmine
North Georgia
Lock Haven
West Chester
Le Moyne
Dallas Baptist
Drury
Alaska-Anchorage
Penn. State-Behrend
Seattle Pacific
Concordia-Irvine
LIU-Post
Pace
New York Tech (private and large enrollment)
Quincy
SUNY-Oneonta
Hawaii-Hilo
American International
Bentley
Mercyhurst
Rochester Tech
Lindenwood-Missouri
Findlay
Wayne State-Michigan
Clarkson
St. Lawrence
Union-New York
Merrimack
Colorado College
Minn.-Duluth
St. Cloud State
UAH
Alaska
Bemidji State
Ferris State
Lake Superior State
Michigan Tech
Minnesota State-Mankato
Northern Michigan
St. Scholastica
Gogebic CC (skiing)
Gustavus Adolphus College
St. Olaf
Conn. College
Gannon
Monmouth, Illinois
Salem International
Washington & Jefferson
Carthage
Grove City
Macalester
Utica
McKendree
Springfield
Bates
Bowdoin
Colby
Colby-Sawyer
Middlebury
Plymouth State
Saint Michaels
U. Maine-Presque Isle
Williams
Bloomsburg
Clarion
Edinboro
Millersville
Azusa Pacific
Fresno Pacific
Bridgeport
Queens-New York
Saint Rose
Southern Conn. State
Baruch
Hunter
Lehman
New York Maritime
US Merchant Marine
Montclair State
Mount Saint Mary-New York
College of New Jersey
Ramapo
Rowan
Staten Island
William Patterson
John Jay
Coast Guard


University of the Science
Centenary-louisiana
Texas Women's
Lewis
Bryn Mawr College
Drew
Haverford
Mount Holyoke College
Smith
Stevens Tech
Swarthmore College
Yeshiva University
Colorado Mountain College
Westminster College (Utah)
Colorado Mines
Western State
Whitman College
University of California, San Diego
California State University, East Bay
California State University, Monterey Bay
Sonoma State University
Barton
Belmont Abbey
Emmanuel
Erskine
King-Tennessee
Lees-McRae
Limestone
Mount Olive
North Greenville
Pfeiffer (Conference Carolinas is in D1 for Men's Volleyball since D2 does not sponsor the sport.)
CIAA plays D1 women's bowling.
East Coast Conference sponsors D1 women's bowling.
MIAA sponsors D1 women's bowling.
Alderson Broaddus
Augusta
Bowie State
Cal State Los Angeles
Carson–Newman
Central Missouri
Charleston (WV)
Chestnut Hill
Chowan
Coker
Colorado Mesa
Daemen
Eckerd
Elizabeth City State
Fayetteville State
Erskine
Felician
Francis Marion
Franklin Pierce
Gannon
Johnson C. Smith
Limestone
Livingstone
Maryville, MO.
Molloy
Mount Olive
Post
Queens (NC)
Roberts Wesleyan
Saint Augustine's
Shaw
Spring Hill
Texas A&M-Kingsville
Ursuline
Virginia State
Virginia Union
Wilmington
Winona State

Adrian
Alma
Babson
Bowdoin
Brandeis
Caltech
Castleton State
CCNY
Cortland State
Elmhurst
Franklin & Marshall
Hamline
Ithaca
Massachusetts Maritime
Medaille
Nebraska Wesleyan
New Jersey City
NYU
Penn State Altoona
RPI
Rhode Island College
Rose–Hulman
Tufts
Vassar
Wellesley
Wilson (PA)
Wisconsin–Eau Claire
Wisconsin–La Crosse
Wisconsin–Oshkosh
Wisconsin–Stout
Wisconsin–Whitewater








Yeah, we have a lot of D2 and D3 schools for one sport or more at D1. This does not count the community colleges that compete in College Rodeo and some other sports, and some NAIA schools as well.
If you want to count Div 2 & NAIA, you've got a lot more than just UAH for Alabama. You've got the University of Montevallo, Tuskegee, UNA(soon to be Div I), Miles College, UWA, Spring Hill, U of Mobile, AUM (current NAIA, soon to be Div 2), Faulkner, Birmingham-Southern, and Huntingdon.

Oregon has Western Oregon, Southern Oregon, Oregon Tech, and George Fox.
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(04-16-2017 08:46 PM)NewTimes Wrote:  
(04-11-2017 02:27 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Lower Divisions schools that have D1 programs people forget.

Johns Hopkins,
Caldwell-New Jersey
Hobart-New York
New Jersey City
Adelphi-New York
Kutztown
Lock Haven
Hartwick-New York
Columbus State
MIT
Ursinus
Bellarmine
North Georgia
Lock Haven
West Chester
Le Moyne
Dallas Baptist
Drury
Alaska-Anchorage
Penn. State-Behrend
Seattle Pacific
Concordia-Irvine
LIU-Post
Pace
New York Tech (private and large enrollment)
Quincy
SUNY-Oneonta
Hawaii-Hilo
American International
Bentley
Mercyhurst
Rochester Tech
Lindenwood-Missouri
Findlay
Wayne State-Michigan
Clarkson
St. Lawrence
Union-New York
Merrimack
Colorado College
Minn.-Duluth
St. Cloud State
UAH
Alaska
Bemidji State
Ferris State
Lake Superior State
Michigan Tech
Minnesota State-Mankato
Northern Michigan
St. Scholastica
Gogebic CC (skiing)
Gustavus Adolphus College
St. Olaf
Conn. College
Gannon
Monmouth, Illinois
Salem International
Washington & Jefferson
Carthage
Grove City
Macalester
Utica
McKendree
Springfield
Bates
Bowdoin
Colby
Colby-Sawyer
Middlebury
Plymouth State
Saint Michaels
U. Maine-Presque Isle
Williams
Bloomsburg
Clarion
Edinboro
Millersville
Azusa Pacific
Fresno Pacific
Bridgeport
Queens-New York
Saint Rose
Southern Conn. State
Baruch
Hunter
Lehman
New York Maritime
US Merchant Marine
Montclair State
Mount Saint Mary-New York
College of New Jersey
Ramapo
Rowan
Staten Island
William Patterson
John Jay
Coast Guard
University of the Science
Centenary-louisiana
Texas Women's
Lewis
Bryn Mawr College
Drew
Haverford
Mount Holyoke College
Smith
Stevens Tech
Swarthmore College
Yeshiva University
Colorado Mountain College
Westminster College (Utah)
Colorado Mines
Western State
Whitman College
University of California, San Diego
California State University, East Bay
California State University, Monterey Bay
Sonoma State University
Barton
Belmont Abbey
Emmanuel
Erskine
King-Tennessee
Lees-McRae
Limestone
Mount Olive
North Greenville
Pfeiffer (Conference Carolinas is in D1 for Men's Volleyball since D2 does not sponsor the sport.)
CIAA plays D1 women's bowling.
East Coast Conference sponsors D1 women's bowling.
MIAA sponsors D1 women's bowling.
Alderson Broaddus
Augusta
Bowie State
Cal State Los Angeles
Carson–Newman
Central Missouri
Charleston (WV)
Chestnut Hill
Chowan
Coker
Colorado Mesa
Daemen
Eckerd
Elizabeth City State
Fayetteville State
Erskine
Felician
Francis Marion
Franklin Pierce
Gannon
Johnson C. Smith
Limestone
Livingstone
Maryville, MO.
Molloy
Mount Olive
Post
Queens (NC)
Roberts Wesleyan
Saint Augustine's
Shaw
Spring Hill
Texas A&M-Kingsville
Ursuline
Virginia State
Virginia Union
Wilmington
Winona State

Adrian
Alma
Babson
Bowdoin
Brandeis
Caltech
Castleton State
CCNY
Cortland State
Elmhurst
Franklin & Marshall
Hamline
Ithaca
Massachusetts Maritime
Medaille
Nebraska Wesleyan
New Jersey City
NYU
Penn State Altoona
RPI
Rhode Island College
Rose–Hulman
Tufts
Vassar
Wellesley
Wilson (PA)
Wisconsin–Eau Claire
Wisconsin–La Crosse
Wisconsin–Oshkosh
Wisconsin–Stout
Wisconsin–Whitewater






Yeah, we have a lot of D2 and D3 schools for one sport or more at D1. This does not count the community colleges that compete in College Rodeo and some other sports, and some NAIA schools as well.
Someone has waaay to much time on their hands.
I was thinking the same thing...

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2014-15 Numbers
unc-ch - 32 Nationally
NC State - 43 Nationally
Duke - Does Not Report Finances
Wake Forest - Does Not Report Finances
ECU - 58 Nationally
UNCC - 77 Nationally
App State - 90 Nationally
Davidson - Does Not Report Finances
Elon - Does Not Report Finances
UNCG - 147 Nationally
UNCW - 169 Nationally
WCU - 191 Nationally
NC A&T - 194 Nationally
Gardner Webb - Does Not Report Finances
UNCA -223 Nationally

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(04-10-2017 10:13 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  
(04-10-2017 08:44 AM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  
(04-09-2017 04:24 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  
(04-09-2017 10:39 AM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  Kentucky would have to be a 10 due to fan support.

Louisville would be a 9.

WKU around a 5.

Morehead around a 3.

Murray & EKU about a 2 or 2.5, not far behind Morehead.

I'm guessing you skipped NKU because you consider them an Ohio team? 05-nono Ok, I'll include them in Ohio

10 - Ohio State - Probably tied for #1 in the country with Texas and Michigan

8 - Cincinnati - compared to P5s in similar size regions (like Iowa, Oregon, and West Virginia), large fan base when their winning, but a smaller core of die-hards. Institutional commitment to football and basketball.

6 - Dayton - possibly the biggest basketball-only fanbase in the country
6 - Xavier - Big East money and more luxury boxes, but smaller fanbase than Dayton
(note -for basketball, Dayton and Xavier have almost equal resources to Cincinnati)

5 - Ohio
5 - Toledo
4.5 - Akron
4.5 - Kent
4.5 - Miami - they used to be tied with Xavier, but they've really fallen off the map
4 - Bowling Green
4 - Northern Kentucky - easily the best arena of the Horizon schools
4 - Youngstown State - the Tressel machine has given them a fair amount of resources for athletics.
3 - Cleveland State
2 - Wright State

NKU is a Kentucky team, I would put them in there with Murray, Morehead & EKU.

I was thinking NKU was a clear step ahead of Morehead and EKU. Their arena and location gives them the type of resources that Morehead can't hope to match. (I don't know much about Murray State, other than Mick Cronin was their head coach for 3 years).

Sneaky nice town and campus, BBall Arena is pretty good seats about 8.5K
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Football Stadium is multi purpose
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Kentucky Lake and Lake Barkley are there. Beautiful area.
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(04-17-2017 04:47 PM)ArQ Wrote:  
(04-17-2017 07:45 AM)nzmorange Wrote:  
(04-17-2017 12:47 AM)ArQ Wrote:  
(04-10-2017 09:06 AM)CenterSquarEd Wrote:  Purely by total expenditure reported to the DOE, New York State looks like this:

Syracuse University
St John's University
University at Buffalo
Fordham University
Columbia University
Cornell University
Colgate University
Stony Brook University
Hofstra University
University at Albany
LIU Brooklyn
Marist College
Binghamton University
Manhattan College
Wagner College
Siena College
Canisius College
Iona College
St Bonaventure University
Niagara University
St Francis College

But if you go by sport, here are the top 10 spenders in men's basketball:

Syracuse University (ACC)
St John's University (Big East)
Fordham University (A-10)
Siena College (MAAC)
St Bonaventure University (A-10)
Hofstra University (CAA)
Stony Brook University (Am East)
Iona College (MAAC)
Manhattan College (MAAC)
University at Buffalo (MAC)

And only 10 of these schools play football, so here are those team expenses:

Syracuse University (ACC)
University at Buffalo (MAC)
Fordham University (Patriot)
Colgate University (Patriot)
Stony Brook University (Colonial)
University at Albany (Colonial)
Columbia University (Ivy)
Wagner College (NEC)
Cornell University (Ivy)
Marist College (Pioneer)

Since football is the only important college sports, your list should be a short one:

Syracuse 4/10
Buffalo 3/10.

That is it! Because New York State is a football desert.

1. Football isn't the only important college sport. A Louisville fan should know that.
2. If your theory is that there is a 1/10 difference between SU and Buffalo, you clearly don't have a firm grasp on NY collegiate sports. Take any shots that you want at SU, but the Dome, an athletic budget that's usually in the top half of the ACC, and ACC membership (in general) are worth more than 1/10 vs a MAC school.
3. You forgot Army.

Point taken. But neither of SU, Army and Buffalo has a passing grade.

In the past 20 years, basketball has fallen far behind football. It is no longer an important sports for colleges. In average, football generates four or five times more revenue for most universities.

This post doesnt have a passing grade.

Schools like Louisville, Syracuse and Duke earn as much on bb as they do fb. Their bb programs bring in more revenue than some fb programs.
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(04-19-2017 01:57 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  2016 Numbers
unc-ch - 32 Nationally
NC State - 43 Nationally
Duke - Does Not Report Finances
Wake Forest - Does Not Report Finances
ECU - 58 Nationally
UNCC - 77 Nationally
App State - 90 Nationally
Davidson - Does Not Report Finances
Elon - Does Not Report Finances
UNCG - 147 Nationally
UNCW - 169 Nationally
WCU - 191 Nationally
NC A&T - 194 Nationally
Gardner Webb - Does Not Report Finances
UNCA -223 Nationally

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Interesting. Link?
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(04-19-2017 06:33 PM)B easy Wrote:  
(04-19-2017 01:57 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  2016 Numbers
unc-ch - 32 Nationally
NC State - 43 Nationally
Duke - Does Not Report Finances
Wake Forest - Does Not Report Finances
ECU - 58 Nationally
UNCC - 77 Nationally
App State - 90 Nationally
Davidson - Does Not Report Finances
Elon - Does Not Report Finances
UNCG - 147 Nationally
UNCW - 169 Nationally
WCU - 191 Nationally
NC A&T - 194 Nationally
Gardner Webb - Does Not Report Finances
UNCA -223 Nationally

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Interesting. Link?

Correction, these are 2014-15 numbers.
http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances/
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(04-11-2017 02:33 PM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  Off the top of my head


Texas


aTm





TexasTech
Baylor
TCU
Houston



SMU
Rice

North Texas
UTEP
UTSA
TexasState

Sam Houston
Stephen F Austin
UT Arlington
UT Pan Am

aTm Corpus Christi
Lamar
Houston Baptist
Dallas Baptist

Prairie View
Texas Southern
Pulling the numbers from the link posted yesterday it looks like I was off on a couple. The Aggies were slightly ahead of the Longhorns in revenue, Lamar is better off than I thought, and the HBCU schools are up with others. Revised listing (privates don't report so I put them where I think they would go):

aTm 192,000,000
UT 183,000,000

Texas Tech 80,000,000
Baylor NR
TCU NR

Houston 44,000,000
SMU NR

Texas State 34,000,000
NoTexas 31,000,000
UTEP 29,000,000
UTSA 27,000,000
Rice NR

Lamar 16,000,000
Sam Houston 16,000,000
Stephen F Austin 16,000,000

UT Arlington 12,000,000
A&M Corpus Christi 11,000,000
UT Rio Grande Valley 10,000,000
Texas Southern 10,000,000
Prairie View 10,000,000
Houston Baptist NR
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