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RE: University Arkansas of Little Rock Doing A Feasibility Study To Add Football
(04-13-2017 11:50 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  In my opinion, that is an excessively convoluted way to run the ship. I'm sure it was well meaning, but I think it's ridiculous.

CFP money and bowl money are millions, each, in total. That money should be split equally, to just football members. End of story

The media deal is most likely based on broadcasting football games. Doubt bball conf games have much to do with it, maybe a little bit of money from ESPN to show the SB tourny champ game. So that money should mostly go to football members.


The rest of it, obviously NCAA MBB tourney credits, split among all members.


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(04-15-2017 10:01 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  That didn't stop W Kentucky or Charlotte ... not that the latter was a Sun Belt team. But you get the idea.
Yes, these are cases in point ... at that time, there was no CFP conference distribution to be shared among FBS playing members of an FBS conference, so the move up was clearly motivated by other factors.

This type of revenue sharing (convulated as it may be) does not penalize a school like UALR from adding FBS football (I would presume in two steps) ... it simply reduces the reward in terms of conference distribution. If it makes sense to go ahead based on the balance of other factors, this conference distribution makes it mildly better. However, it reduces the chance that the balance of other factors are tilted moderately against, but when the conference distribution is included, that swings the balance.

Mind you, that doesn't mean that was the main reasoning ... it could just as well be some platitude filled argument to treat the BBall like the "full members{+}" that they are.

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(04-15-2017 08:19 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(04-15-2017 12:21 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  It would be great to see Jacksonville move up to FBS one day, and perhaps play in the Jags stadium.


Sun Belt Conference right now have had eyes on North Florida.
Source?
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(04-16-2017 10:45 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(04-15-2017 08:19 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(04-15-2017 12:21 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  It would be great to see Jacksonville move up to FBS one day, and perhaps play in the Jags stadium.


Sun Belt Conference right now have had eyes on North Florida.
Source?

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sfl-mtblog-2...story.html

Also on the list were Belmont, Saint Louis, Florida Gulf Coast, College of Charleston, and many more. Another site had Missouri State, Illinois State, Delaware, and some others as possible targets. One of Benson's ideas was a merger of WAC, C-USA and Sun Belt Conference which I doubt it was an idea at all. Jacksonville State was also on the lists as well. I think he was looking at who are the willing to move up to save the conference. Like I said, the schools are too egotistic on about adding anymore schools in the same state. Troy and South Alabama are in southern Alabama while Jacksonville State is in the Northern half of the state.
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RE: University Arkansas of Little Rock Doing A Feasibility Study To Add Football
(04-16-2017 11:08 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(04-16-2017 10:45 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(04-15-2017 08:19 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(04-15-2017 12:21 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  It would be great to see Jacksonville move up to FBS one day, and perhaps play in the Jags stadium.


Sun Belt Conference right now have had eyes on North Florida.
Source?

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sfl-mtblog-2...story.html

Also on the list were Belmont, Saint Louis, Florida Gulf Coast, College of Charleston, and many more. Another site had Missouri State, Illinois State, Delaware, and some others as possible targets. One of Benson's ideas was a merger of WAC, C-USA and Sun Belt Conference which I doubt it was an idea at all. Jacksonville State was also on the lists as well. I think he was looking at who are the willing to move up to save the conference. Like I said, the schools are too egotistic on about adding anymore schools in the same state. Troy and South Alabama are in southern Alabama while Jacksonville State is in the Northern half of the state.

Great find.

So do you expect things to have remained the same for the past 5 years? A lot of changes have happened so I wouldn't put any value on what may have been over 5 years ago.
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(04-16-2017 12:42 PM)rokamortis Wrote:  
(04-16-2017 11:08 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(04-16-2017 10:45 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(04-15-2017 08:19 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(04-15-2017 12:21 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  It would be great to see Jacksonville move up to FBS one day, and perhaps play in the Jags stadium.


Sun Belt Conference right now have had eyes on North Florida.
Source?

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sfl-mtblog-2...story.html

Also on the list were Belmont, Saint Louis, Florida Gulf Coast, College of Charleston, and many more. Another site had Missouri State, Illinois State, Delaware, and some others as possible targets. One of Benson's ideas was a merger of WAC, C-USA and Sun Belt Conference which I doubt it was an idea at all. Jacksonville State was also on the lists as well. I think he was looking at who are the willing to move up to save the conference. Like I said, the schools are too egotistic on about adding anymore schools in the same state. Troy and South Alabama are in southern Alabama while Jacksonville State is in the Northern half of the state.

Great find.

So do you expect things to have remained the same for the past 5 years? A lot of changes have happened so I wouldn't put any value on what may have been over 5 years ago.


Eastern Kentucky was on that list 5 years ago, and they were still considered before SBC settled on Coastal Carolina. Even James Madison is on that list, and SBC still wants them.

North Alabama announced they want to be in D1 back in 2011, and they finally got the invite.

You need to keep a list handy just in case if you get raided again. SBC still could get raided again in the future.
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(04-16-2017 01:07 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(04-16-2017 12:42 PM)rokamortis Wrote:  
(04-16-2017 11:08 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(04-16-2017 10:45 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(04-15-2017 08:19 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Sun Belt Conference right now have had eyes on North Florida.
Source?

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sfl-mtblog-2...story.html

Also on the list were Belmont, Saint Louis, Florida Gulf Coast, College of Charleston, and many more. Another site had Missouri State, Illinois State, Delaware, and some others as possible targets. One of Benson's ideas was a merger of WAC, C-USA and Sun Belt Conference which I doubt it was an idea at all. Jacksonville State was also on the lists as well. I think he was looking at who are the willing to move up to save the conference. Like I said, the schools are too egotistic on about adding anymore schools in the same state. Troy and South Alabama are in southern Alabama while Jacksonville State is in the Northern half of the state.

Great find.

So do you expect things to have remained the same for the past 5 years? A lot of changes have happened so I wouldn't put any value on what may have been over 5 years ago.


Eastern Kentucky was on that list 5 years ago, and they were still considered before SBC settled on Coastal Carolina. Even James Madison is on that list, and SBC still wants them.

North Alabama announced they want to be in D1 back in 2011, and they finally got the invite.

You need to keep a list handy just in case if you get raided again. SBC still could get raided again in the future.

Liberty was on that list as well.
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(04-16-2017 01:07 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(04-16-2017 12:42 PM)rokamortis Wrote:  
(04-16-2017 11:08 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(04-16-2017 10:45 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(04-15-2017 08:19 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Sun Belt Conference right now have had eyes on North Florida.
Source?

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sfl-mtblog-2...story.html

Also on the list were Belmont, Saint Louis, Florida Gulf Coast, College of Charleston, and many more. Another site had Missouri State, Illinois State, Delaware, and some others as possible targets. One of Benson's ideas was a merger of WAC, C-USA and Sun Belt Conference which I doubt it was an idea at all. Jacksonville State was also on the lists as well. I think he was looking at who are the willing to move up to save the conference. Like I said, the schools are too egotistic on about adding anymore schools in the same state. Troy and South Alabama are in southern Alabama while Jacksonville State is in the Northern half of the state.

Great find.

So do you expect things to have remained the same for the past 5 years? A lot of changes have happened so I wouldn't put any value on what may have been over 5 years ago.


Eastern Kentucky was on that list 5 years ago, and they were still considered before SBC settled on Coastal Carolina. Even James Madison is on that list, and SBC still wants them.

North Alabama announced they want to be in D1 back in 2011, and they finally got the invite.

You need to keep a list handy just in case if you get raided again. SBC still could get raided again in the future.

From the looks of it conferences have pretty much reached a saturation point and raiding a conference will be like one school leaving. With the CFP stuff in effect and the whole auto bid thing for BB applying to existing conference and not new ones I really don't see a new conference coming into existence. So where would all these raided schools go? There is no more room in the inn for large movement in realignment.
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(04-16-2017 01:16 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  
(04-16-2017 01:07 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(04-16-2017 12:42 PM)rokamortis Wrote:  
(04-16-2017 11:08 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(04-16-2017 10:45 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  Source?

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sfl-mtblog-2...story.html

Also on the list were Belmont, Saint Louis, Florida Gulf Coast, College of Charleston, and many more. Another site had Missouri State, Illinois State, Delaware, and some others as possible targets. One of Benson's ideas was a merger of WAC, C-USA and Sun Belt Conference which I doubt it was an idea at all. Jacksonville State was also on the lists as well. I think he was looking at who are the willing to move up to save the conference. Like I said, the schools are too egotistic on about adding anymore schools in the same state. Troy and South Alabama are in southern Alabama while Jacksonville State is in the Northern half of the state.

Great find.

So do you expect things to have remained the same for the past 5 years? A lot of changes have happened so I wouldn't put any value on what may have been over 5 years ago.


Eastern Kentucky was on that list 5 years ago, and they were still considered before SBC settled on Coastal Carolina. Even James Madison is on that list, and SBC still wants them.

North Alabama announced they want to be in D1 back in 2011, and they finally got the invite.

You need to keep a list handy just in case if you get raided again. SBC still could get raided again in the future.

From the looks of it conferences have pretty much reached a saturation point and raiding a conference will be like one school leaving. With the CFP stuff in effect and the whole auto bid thing for BB applying to existing conference and not new ones I really don't see a new conference coming into existence. So where would all these raided schools go? There is no more room in the inn for large movement in realignment.

Nope. No one is moving up. Some will be moving down. Sorry DaveySt
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(04-16-2017 01:07 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(04-16-2017 12:42 PM)rokamortis Wrote:  
(04-16-2017 11:08 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(04-16-2017 10:45 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(04-15-2017 08:19 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Sun Belt Conference right now have had eyes on North Florida.
Source?

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sfl-mtblog-2...story.html

Also on the list were Belmont, Saint Louis, Florida Gulf Coast, College of Charleston, and many more. Another site had Missouri State, Illinois State, Delaware, and some others as possible targets. One of Benson's ideas was a merger of WAC, C-USA and Sun Belt Conference which I doubt it was an idea at all. Jacksonville State was also on the lists as well. I think he was looking at who are the willing to move up to save the conference. Like I said, the schools are too egotistic on about adding anymore schools in the same state. Troy and South Alabama are in southern Alabama while Jacksonville State is in the Northern half of the state.

Great find.

So do you expect things to have remained the same for the past 5 years? A lot of changes have happened so I wouldn't put any value on what may have been over 5 years ago.


Eastern Kentucky was on that list 5 years ago, and they were still considered before SBC settled on Coastal Carolina. Even James Madison is on that list, and SBC still wants them.

North Alabama announced they want to be in D1 back in 2011, and they finally got the invite.

You need to keep a list handy just in case if you get raided again. SBC still could get raided again in the future.

In sports, something from five years ago is no longer relevant. The article is in a newspaper that has no real connection to the SBC. Since that article was posted, six schools joined the conference; all from Texas, Georgia, and the Carolinas. The SBC in the future will be the raiders, not the raided.
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(04-16-2017 02:43 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  
(04-16-2017 01:16 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  
(04-16-2017 01:07 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(04-16-2017 12:42 PM)rokamortis Wrote:  
(04-16-2017 11:08 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sfl-mtblog-2...story.html

Also on the list were Belmont, Saint Louis, Florida Gulf Coast, College of Charleston, and many more. Another site had Missouri State, Illinois State, Delaware, and some others as possible targets. One of Benson's ideas was a merger of WAC, C-USA and Sun Belt Conference which I doubt it was an idea at all. Jacksonville State was also on the lists as well. I think he was looking at who are the willing to move up to save the conference. Like I said, the schools are too egotistic on about adding anymore schools in the same state. Troy and South Alabama are in southern Alabama while Jacksonville State is in the Northern half of the state.

Great find.

So do you expect things to have remained the same for the past 5 years? A lot of changes have happened so I wouldn't put any value on what may have been over 5 years ago.


Eastern Kentucky was on that list 5 years ago, and they were still considered before SBC settled on Coastal Carolina. Even James Madison is on that list, and SBC still wants them.

North Alabama announced they want to be in D1 back in 2011, and they finally got the invite.

You need to keep a list handy just in case if you get raided again. SBC still could get raided again in the future.

From the looks of it conferences have pretty much reached a saturation point and raiding a conference will be like one school leaving. With the CFP stuff in effect and the whole auto bid thing for BB applying to existing conference and not new ones I really don't see a new conference coming into existence. So where would all these raided schools go? There is no more room in the inn for large movement in realignment.

Nope. No one is moving up. Some will be moving down. Sorry DaveySt


I could see move up to take the place of some teams moving down, but there are teams that are wanted in FBS like James Madison and Missouri State. I could see at one point Stony Brook moving up.

Someone pointing out that credits for conferences? How many credits does now defunct conferences have that were D1 at one point? Great West did not have credits because they could not keep teams. Does Southwest Conference get reborn from C-USA and Sun Belt Conference west schools to form from minus La.-Monroe? I could see UTEP moving to the MWC.

Southwest Conference:
North Texas
Rice
UTSA
Texas State
New Mexico State
Arkansas State
Little Rock
La. Tech
La.-Lafayette
Missouri State
Lamar
UTRGV (adding football) move UTA back to the WAC.)

C-USA:
Middle Tennessee State
Western Kentucky
Southern Mississippi
Old Dominion
UAB
James Madison
UMass.
Georgia State
Delaware
Appalachian State
Stony Brook
Buffalo or Southern Alabama

SBC:
La.-Monroe or move back down to FCS's Southland
South Alabama or Jacksonville State
Troy
Georgia Southern
Coastal Carolina
Chattanooga
East Tennessee State
North Florida
FGCU
Kennesaw State
Eastern Kentucky
The Citadel (stadium size is FBS capacity)
Liberty?

Plus, we have to watch what the North Carolina politicians are going to do, and any expansions by the P5. AAC schools are targets to weaken AAC again away from being a power conference.

Musical chairs could be at it again, and none of the G5 conferences are safe.
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University Arkansas of Little Rock Doing A Feasibility Study To Add Football
Compiling a list of institutions that might have interest is not quite the same thing as being interested in adding them. Ask Liberty and EKU
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(04-12-2017 10:41 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(04-12-2017 10:31 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  I think Little Rock dropped Arkansas from the first part and are known as University of Little Rock. Looks like they are moving away on their own from the people from Fayetteville to be their own like South Alabama did.

Mobile and Little Rock both have city owned stadiums where a team can play. Both also are in a conference with an automatic ticket to FBS.

The similarities end there.

USA has its own board. UALR does not. Even worse, UALR's board is controlled by the Univ of Arkansas. Politically, its going to be very difficult for UALR.
UALR sounds like UAB and they got a football program. Granted UAT killed it once.

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(04-12-2017 10:53 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  But here is one thing to counter that, Tom: Arkansas has been able to deny UALR a football team for decades under the premise that "Arkansas" is their football team ... with the proof being the yearly Little Rock game.

Now that game is in jeopardy.


That could be the --- yes, small --- window of opportunity.
Lots of UALR grads actually believe this. I have a friend with a Razorback alumni themed ATM card but he went to UALR. LOL

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(04-12-2017 04:41 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  It's about business for the city. The city doesn't want to pony up for upgrades to keep Arkansas, so the claim they can get the same return from UALR. Which is hogwash.

Bluff will be called.

I agree the deep south is different than the rest of the US when it comes to football and spending education dollars on sports. You don't have the student revolts and rejections of fees, the State laws prohibiting transfers, etc. And all the new move ups in football are from this region it seems. It shows up in other Statistics, such as the spending on research at Universities versus the spending on Athletics. While the ratio is 7:1 to 12:1 among schools in the B1G and P12, its down below 2:1 in the SEC, and if you remove the four AAU schools it below 1.5:1. This points to a very different set of priorities.

Given that, the same numbers which would make any Northern or Western public schools say, hell no to adding football, in Arkansas or Alabama or Louisiana they may well say yes.
lol, damn. not sure if your numbers are right but it paints a sad picture.

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RE: University Arkansas of Little Rock Doing A Feasibility Study To Add Football
(04-16-2017 04:58 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(04-16-2017 02:43 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  
(04-16-2017 01:16 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  
(04-16-2017 01:07 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(04-16-2017 12:42 PM)rokamortis Wrote:  Great find.

So do you expect things to have remained the same for the past 5 years? A lot of changes have happened so I wouldn't put any value on what may have been over 5 years ago.


Eastern Kentucky was on that list 5 years ago, and they were still considered before SBC settled on Coastal Carolina. Even James Madison is on that list, and SBC still wants them.

North Alabama announced they want to be in D1 back in 2011, and they finally got the invite.

You need to keep a list handy just in case if you get raided again. SBC still could get raided again in the future.

From the looks of it conferences have pretty much reached a saturation point and raiding a conference will be like one school leaving. With the CFP stuff in effect and the whole auto bid thing for BB applying to existing conference and not new ones I really don't see a new conference coming into existence. So where would all these raided schools go? There is no more room in the inn for large movement in realignment.

Nope. No one is moving up. Some will be moving down. Sorry DaveySt


I could see move up to take the place of some teams moving down, but there are teams that are wanted in FBS like James Madison and Missouri State. I could see at one point Stony Brook moving up.

Someone pointing out that credits for conferences? How many credits does now defunct conferences have that were D1 at one point? Great West did not have credits because they could not keep teams. Does Southwest Conference get reborn from C-USA and Sun Belt Conference west schools to form from minus La.-Monroe? I could see UTEP moving to the MWC.

Southwest Conference:
North Texas
Rice
UTSA
Texas State
New Mexico State
Arkansas State
Little Rock
La. Tech
La.-Lafayette
Missouri State
Lamar
UTRGV (adding football) move UTA back to the WAC.)

C-USA:
Middle Tennessee State
Western Kentucky
Southern Mississippi
Old Dominion
UAB
James Madison
UMass.
Georgia State
Delaware
Appalachian State
Stony Brook
Buffalo or Southern Alabama

SBC:
La.-Monroe or move back down to FCS's Southland
South Alabama or Jacksonville State
Troy
Georgia Southern
Coastal Carolina
Chattanooga
East Tennessee State
North Florida
FGCU
Kennesaw State
Eastern Kentucky
The Citadel (stadium size is FBS capacity)
Liberty?

Plus, we have to watch what the North Carolina politicians are going to do, and any expansions by the P5. AAC schools are targets to weaken AAC again away from being a power conference.

Musical chairs could be at it again, and none of the G5 conferences are safe.

FGCU will never be in The Belch. They are a Devry with a basketball program. More accurately, they are a Grand Canyon U without GCU's history. FGCU has been around less than Trump U. The Belch wouldn't touch that with a 10 ft poll. Liberty would cause certain Belch members to leave I've heard.
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(04-18-2017 11:33 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  
(04-16-2017 04:58 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(04-16-2017 02:43 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  
(04-16-2017 01:16 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  
(04-16-2017 01:07 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Eastern Kentucky was on that list 5 years ago, and they were still considered before SBC settled on Coastal Carolina. Even James Madison is on that list, and SBC still wants them.

North Alabama announced they want to be in D1 back in 2011, and they finally got the invite.

You need to keep a list handy just in case if you get raided again. SBC still could get raided again in the future.

From the looks of it conferences have pretty much reached a saturation point and raiding a conference will be like one school leaving. With the CFP stuff in effect and the whole auto bid thing for BB applying to existing conference and not new ones I really don't see a new conference coming into existence. So where would all these raided schools go? There is no more room in the inn for large movement in realignment.

Nope. No one is moving up. Some will be moving down. Sorry DaveySt


I could see move up to take the place of some teams moving down, but there are teams that are wanted in FBS like James Madison and Missouri State. I could see at one point Stony Brook moving up.

Someone pointing out that credits for conferences? How many credits does now defunct conferences have that were D1 at one point? Great West did not have credits because they could not keep teams. Does Southwest Conference get reborn from C-USA and Sun Belt Conference west schools to form from minus La.-Monroe? I could see UTEP moving to the MWC.

Southwest Conference:
North Texas
Rice
UTSA
Texas State
New Mexico State
Arkansas State
Little Rock
La. Tech
La.-Lafayette
Missouri State
Lamar
UTRGV (adding football) move UTA back to the WAC.)

C-USA:
Middle Tennessee State
Western Kentucky
Southern Mississippi
Old Dominion
UAB
James Madison
UMass.
Georgia State
Delaware
Appalachian State
Stony Brook
Buffalo or Southern Alabama

SBC:
La.-Monroe or move back down to FCS's Southland
South Alabama or Jacksonville State
Troy
Georgia Southern
Coastal Carolina
Chattanooga
East Tennessee State
North Florida
FGCU
Kennesaw State
Eastern Kentucky
The Citadel (stadium size is FBS capacity)
Liberty?

Plus, we have to watch what the North Carolina politicians are going to do, and any expansions by the P5. AAC schools are targets to weaken AAC again away from being a power conference.

Musical chairs could be at it again, and none of the G5 conferences are safe.

FGCU will never be in The Belch. They are a Devry with a basketball program. More accurately, they are a Grand Canyon U without GCU's history. FGCU has been around less than Trump U. The Belch wouldn't touch that with a 10 ft poll. Liberty would cause certain Belch members to leave I've heard.
How does a thread devolve into this state? Somebody kill it before it attracts more of the same.
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RE: University Arkansas of Little Rock Doing A Feasibility Study To Add Football
(04-18-2017 11:33 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  
(04-16-2017 04:58 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(04-16-2017 02:43 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  
(04-16-2017 01:16 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  
(04-16-2017 01:07 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Eastern Kentucky was on that list 5 years ago, and they were still considered before SBC settled on Coastal Carolina. Even James Madison is on that list, and SBC still wants them.

North Alabama announced they want to be in D1 back in 2011, and they finally got the invite.

You need to keep a list handy just in case if you get raided again. SBC still could get raided again in the future.

From the looks of it conferences have pretty much reached a saturation point and raiding a conference will be like one school leaving. With the CFP stuff in effect and the whole auto bid thing for BB applying to existing conference and not new ones I really don't see a new conference coming into existence. So where would all these raided schools go? There is no more room in the inn for large movement in realignment.

Nope. No one is moving up. Some will be moving down. Sorry DaveySt


I could see move up to take the place of some teams moving down, but there are teams that are wanted in FBS like James Madison and Missouri State. I could see at one point Stony Brook moving up.

Someone pointing out that credits for conferences? How many credits does now defunct conferences have that were D1 at one point? Great West did not have credits because they could not keep teams. Does Southwest Conference get reborn from C-USA and Sun Belt Conference west schools to form from minus La.-Monroe? I could see UTEP moving to the MWC.

Southwest Conference:
North Texas
Rice
UTSA
Texas State
New Mexico State
Arkansas State
Little Rock
La. Tech
La.-Lafayette
Missouri State
Lamar
UTRGV (adding football) move UTA back to the WAC.)

C-USA:
Middle Tennessee State
Western Kentucky
Southern Mississippi
Old Dominion
UAB
James Madison
UMass.
Georgia State
Delaware
Appalachian State
Stony Brook
Buffalo or Southern Alabama

SBC:
La.-Monroe or move back down to FCS's Southland
South Alabama or Jacksonville State
Troy
Georgia Southern
Coastal Carolina
Chattanooga
East Tennessee State
North Florida
FGCU
Kennesaw State
Eastern Kentucky
The Citadel (stadium size is FBS capacity)
Liberty?

Plus, we have to watch what the North Carolina politicians are going to do, and any expansions by the P5. AAC schools are targets to weaken AAC again away from being a power conference.

Musical chairs could be at it again, and none of the G5 conferences are safe.

FGCU will never be in The Belch. They are a Devry with a basketball program. More accurately, they are a Grand Canyon U without GCU's history. FGCU has been around less than Trump U. The Belch wouldn't touch that with a 10 ft poll. Liberty would cause certain Belch members to leave I've heard.

Never is forever. FGCU still doesn't have the enrollment yet to start fb. But that may be coming. Never say never.
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RE: University Arkansas of Little Rock Doing A Feasibility Study To Add Football
(04-18-2017 11:47 AM)NoDak Wrote:  
(04-18-2017 11:33 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  
(04-16-2017 04:58 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(04-16-2017 02:43 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  
(04-16-2017 01:16 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  From the looks of it conferences have pretty much reached a saturation point and raiding a conference will be like one school leaving. With the CFP stuff in effect and the whole auto bid thing for BB applying to existing conference and not new ones I really don't see a new conference coming into existence. So where would all these raided schools go? There is no more room in the inn for large movement in realignment.

Nope. No one is moving up. Some will be moving down. Sorry DaveySt


I could see move up to take the place of some teams moving down, but there are teams that are wanted in FBS like James Madison and Missouri State. I could see at one point Stony Brook moving up.

Someone pointing out that credits for conferences? How many credits does now defunct conferences have that were D1 at one point? Great West did not have credits because they could not keep teams. Does Southwest Conference get reborn from C-USA and Sun Belt Conference west schools to form from minus La.-Monroe? I could see UTEP moving to the MWC.

Southwest Conference:
North Texas
Rice
UTSA
Texas State
New Mexico State
Arkansas State
Little Rock
La. Tech
La.-Lafayette
Missouri State
Lamar
UTRGV (adding football) move UTA back to the WAC.)

C-USA:
Middle Tennessee State
Western Kentucky
Southern Mississippi
Old Dominion
UAB
James Madison
UMass.
Georgia State
Delaware
Appalachian State
Stony Brook
Buffalo or Southern Alabama

SBC:
La.-Monroe or move back down to FCS's Southland
South Alabama or Jacksonville State
Troy
Georgia Southern
Coastal Carolina
Chattanooga
East Tennessee State
North Florida
FGCU
Kennesaw State
Eastern Kentucky
The Citadel (stadium size is FBS capacity)
Liberty?

Plus, we have to watch what the North Carolina politicians are going to do, and any expansions by the P5. AAC schools are targets to weaken AAC again away from being a power conference.

Musical chairs could be at it again, and none of the G5 conferences are safe.

FGCU will never be in The Belch. They are a Devry with a basketball program. More accurately, they are a Grand Canyon U without GCU's history. FGCU has been around less than Trump U. The Belch wouldn't touch that with a 10 ft poll. Liberty would cause certain Belch members to leave I've heard.

Never is forever. FGCU still doesn't have the enrollment yet to start fb. But that may be coming. Never say never.

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RE: University Arkansas of Little Rock Doing A Feasibility Study To Add Football
(04-18-2017 12:19 PM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  
(04-18-2017 11:47 AM)NoDak Wrote:  
(04-18-2017 11:33 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  
(04-16-2017 04:58 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(04-16-2017 02:43 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  Nope. No one is moving up. Some will be moving down. Sorry DaveySt


I could see move up to take the place of some teams moving down, but there are teams that are wanted in FBS like James Madison and Missouri State. I could see at one point Stony Brook moving up.

Someone pointing out that credits for conferences? How many credits does now defunct conferences have that were D1 at one point? Great West did not have credits because they could not keep teams. Does Southwest Conference get reborn from C-USA and Sun Belt Conference west schools to form from minus La.-Monroe? I could see UTEP moving to the MWC.

Southwest Conference:
North Texas
Rice
UTSA
Texas State
New Mexico State
Arkansas State
Little Rock
La. Tech
La.-Lafayette
Missouri State
Lamar
UTRGV (adding football) move UTA back to the WAC.)

C-USA:
Middle Tennessee State
Western Kentucky
Southern Mississippi
Old Dominion
UAB
James Madison
UMass.
Georgia State
Delaware
Appalachian State
Stony Brook
Buffalo or Southern Alabama

SBC:
La.-Monroe or move back down to FCS's Southland
South Alabama or Jacksonville State
Troy
Georgia Southern
Coastal Carolina
Chattanooga
East Tennessee State
North Florida
FGCU
Kennesaw State
Eastern Kentucky
The Citadel (stadium size is FBS capacity)
Liberty?

Plus, we have to watch what the North Carolina politicians are going to do, and any expansions by the P5. AAC schools are targets to weaken AAC again away from being a power conference.

Musical chairs could be at it again, and none of the G5 conferences are safe.

FGCU will never be in The Belch. They are a Devry with a basketball program. More accurately, they are a Grand Canyon U without GCU's history. FGCU has been around less than Trump U. The Belch wouldn't touch that with a 10 ft poll. Liberty would cause certain Belch members to leave I've heard.

Never is forever. FGCU still doesn't have the enrollment yet to start fb. But that may be coming. Never say never.

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