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RE: Who Should Replace Tubby?
(03-15-2017 09:16 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote: (03-15-2017 08:54 PM)TubbyBall Wrote: Fred Hoiberg After Chicago is done with him. Maybe a Hurley. I seriously doubt we will want the vcu coach in three years anyway honestly. Dynamics's will change dramatically. There aren't many that would want this dumpster fire right now. Tubby will make it appealing again
It's deja vu all over again. Nobody wants to coach at Memphis? Still? After eight years? Or just again, after one year?
We didn't offer enough for big names when Tubby hired. All these guys who weren't coming? Give them a Top 10-15 contract and they WILL come. WE HAVE VERY HIGH expectations (fans anyway)-you have to pay for what you want. Marshall with Koch Bros. is unique but unless its hometown schOOL THEY are at, money will bring them.
Big question is money still there and are big money BB boosters pissed off about fans apathy to their pick-Tubby?
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RE: Who Should Replace Tubby?
(03-12-2017 04:23 PM)Partypack Wrote: (03-12-2017 03:40 PM)Rufus T. Firefly Wrote: (03-12-2017 02:42 PM)Mimi Wrote: Will beat the dead horse that Tubby can still do fine here the next half decade, but he must elevate his energy...period.
While we do not play in the ACC, we are a MAJOR program with more tradition that most P5 schools. And no, I am not arguing we are ahead of the North Carolina's of the world, but we are well ahead of the Texas Techs and Minnesotas, as well as Georgia.
Somehow he appears to have missed that. He was essentially adored for a bit less than what Pastner was crucified for. Ramp it up in all ways Tubby, make these five years great.
Next coach though, yes, without question, an up and comer. An Archie Miller or the like. One who will run through a wall.
We are not a MAJOR program as we like to think.Western Kentucky, Princeton, BYU, Utah , LSU , Wake Forest , Missouri , Iowa are just some of the "powerhouses" that have more sweet 16 visits than Memphis.You have to have an administration to make a hire to relight a fan base that wants to believe we can win like we did under Cal.The pride of those runs is what is missing as a team,fan base, and school.Tubby seems to be a direct correlation of how the administration is right now...apathetic.
Next time you want to downplay our basketball program's history, at least do a little research and get your facts straight
The only team you listed who's been to more sweet 16s than us is Utah
We've been to 11
WKU...8
Princeton...6
BYU...8
Utah...18
LSU...9
Wake...10
Missouri...7
Iowa...8
AND
We have been to the FINAL FOUR three times. Played in the Championship Game two times. A lot of programs have done NEITHER
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RE: Who Should Replace Tubby?
(03-14-2017 08:40 PM)Easterwood Wrote: (03-14-2017 07:54 PM)HobosHeroesStCornerClowns Wrote: (03-14-2017 01:06 AM)uofmcamaro Wrote: (03-14-2017 12:37 AM)Easterwood Wrote: (03-13-2017 10:21 PM)Penny Lane Wrote: You kidding Keith? He would turn down doubling his salary to stay at VCU over Memphis? Not questioning your integrity but I find that hard to believe when it came down to it the man would say no. Richmond is not known as a great place to live either.
He thinks y'all are crazy
He ain't coming
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We've had a lot of Starbucks
He's kinda right
What do you mean by kinda???
He's abso-freaking-lutely right!!!
Will Wade will not take this job
Period
Got any names that would?
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Penny Lane
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RE: Who Should Replace Tubby?
I as said during the search, Chris Mack is a great coach and would be a food fit here. I watched Wade coach 2 straight games. He needs more experience before he is ready to take a job like Memphis and the unique challenges we have here
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RE: Who Should Replace Tubby?
Chris Mack is a really good coach but wasn't going to come here. There are a lot of good coaches. I'm not spazzing out like a lot. Tubby will right the ship. Unfortunately some of y'all will have to be patient. Most of you were patient with Pastner so not sure what's changed
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Penny Lane
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RE: Who Should Replace Tubby?
(03-16-2017 09:04 PM)TubbyBall Wrote: Chris Mack is a really good coach but wasn't going to come here. There are a lot of good coaches. I'm not spazzing out like a lot. Tubby will right the ship. Unfortunately some of y'all will have to be patient. Most of you were patient with Pastner so not sure what's changed
NIT his first year and 4 straight NCAAs will give a guy a chance. When he lost fan base it was very bad as that affected everything with the program. I'm convinced had he had a reasonable contract, he would have been let go after 14-15 season when fans started bailing out big time.
Mack might not due to city ties, but you can probably count on less than 10 fingers the number of coaches that would not come here for $4.5M, 4 year contract and total control of BB. Like we offered Cal.
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RE: Who Should Replace Tubby?
(03-16-2017 09:04 PM)TubbyBall Wrote: Chris Mack is a really good coach but wasn't going to come here. There are a lot of good coaches. I'm not spazzing out like a lot. Tubby will right the ship. Unfortunately some of y'all will have to be patient. Most of you were patient with Pastner so not sure what's changed
Tubbyball, you aren't allowed to post anything here but negative comments and bashing of Tubby. Don't ask for patience, it's not gonna happen.
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RE: Who Should Replace Tubby?
(03-16-2017 09:20 PM)Penny Lane Wrote: (03-16-2017 09:04 PM)TubbyBall Wrote: Chris Mack is a really good coach but wasn't going to come here. There are a lot of good coaches. I'm not spazzing out like a lot. Tubby will right the ship. Unfortunately some of y'all will have to be patient. Most of you were patient with Pastner so not sure what's changed
NIT his first year and 4 straight NCAAs will give a guy a chance. When he lost fan base it was very bad as that affected everything with the program. I'm convinced had he had a reasonable contract, he would have been let go after 14-15 season when fans started bailing out big time.
Mack might not due to city ties, but you can probably count on less than 10 fingers the number of coaches that would not come here for $4.5M, 4 year contract and total control of BB. Like we offered Cal.
I'm not going on rehash pastner but you're correct, most people wouldn't turn down the money. When Tubby is finished, I think a lot of coaches will be interested
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03-16-2017 09:59 PM |
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RE: Who Should Replace Tubby?
(03-16-2017 09:44 PM)TubbyTime Wrote: (03-16-2017 09:04 PM)TubbyBall Wrote: Chris Mack is a really good coach but wasn't going to come here. There are a lot of good coaches. I'm not spazzing out like a lot. Tubby will right the ship. Unfortunately some of y'all will have to be patient. Most of you were patient with Pastner so not sure what's changed
Tubbyball, you aren't allowed to post anything here but negative comments and bashing of Tubby. Don't ask for patience, it's not gonna happen.
Tubby will get 3 more years minimum unless he loses his mind.
That being the case, I hope he decides to start working.
good luck to him; he needs all he can get.
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RE: Who Should Replace Tubby?
(03-16-2017 09:20 PM)Penny Lane Wrote: (03-16-2017 09:04 PM)TubbyBall Wrote: Chris Mack is a really good coach but wasn't going to come here. There are a lot of good coaches. I'm not spazzing out like a lot. Tubby will right the ship. Unfortunately some of y'all will have to be patient. Most of you were patient with Pastner so not sure what's changed
NIT his first year and 4 straight NCAAs will give a guy a chance. When he lost fan base it was very bad as that affected everything with the program. I'm convinced had he had a reasonable contract, he would have been let go after 14-15 season when fans started bailing out big time.
Mack might not due to city ties, but you can probably count on less than 10 fingers the number of coaches that would not come here for $4.5M, 4 year contract and total control of BB. Like we offered Cal.
Mack is fine. But $4.5M a year? For a guy who has never made it past the S16. For a guy who has a lower win % at Xavier than every one of their previous 4 coaches.
Don't get me wrong - I'll take Mack. But not for $4.5M.
You want to give this guy total control and $4.5M - and you complain about the contracts of our athletic department.
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RE: Who Should Replace Tubby?
(03-17-2017 11:47 AM)Tiger87 Wrote: (03-16-2017 09:20 PM)Penny Lane Wrote: (03-16-2017 09:04 PM)TubbyBall Wrote: Chris Mack is a really good coach but wasn't going to come here. There are a lot of good coaches. I'm not spazzing out like a lot. Tubby will right the ship. Unfortunately some of y'all will have to be patient. Most of you were patient with Pastner so not sure what's changed
NIT his first year and 4 straight NCAAs will give a guy a chance. When he lost fan base it was very bad as that affected everything with the program. I'm convinced had he had a reasonable contract, he would have been let go after 14-15 season when fans started bailing out big time.
Mack might not due to city ties, but you can probably count on less than 10 fingers the number of coaches that would not come here for $4.5M, 4 year contract and total control of BB. Like we offered Cal.
Mack is fine. But $4.5M a year? For a guy who has never made it past the S16. For a guy who has a lower win % at Xavier than every one of their previous 4 coaches.
Don't get me wrong - I'll take Mack. But not for $4.5M.
You want to give this guy total control and $4.5M - and you complain about the contracts of our athletic department.
Price of doing business. Josh's extension here and now Cuonzo's new deal at Mizzou have upped the anti. I can only imagine what IU offers Marshall
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RE: Who Should Replace Tubby?
(03-15-2017 03:23 PM)TubbyTime Wrote: (03-15-2017 03:08 PM)VinnieVegas Wrote: (03-15-2017 03:04 PM)btiger Wrote: (03-14-2017 08:40 PM)Easterwood Wrote: (03-14-2017 07:54 PM)HobosHeroesStCornerClowns Wrote: What do you mean by kinda???
He's abso-freaking-lutely right!!!
Will Wade will not take this job
Period
since nobody with an IQ above room temperature has ever suggested he would be a candidate for this job that's probably a pretty safe boast for him to make
You mean like the geniuses that all want Penny ?
There are a few "geniuses" here that act like Andy Kennedy should or would be a good choice.
If the choice was Penny or Andy, it's so easy. It's Penny all day everyday.
I liked you better when you posted as Joe1. And apparently, you liked me more, too.
Joe1 Wrote:hey whats up Saluki? I sure miss your posts dude, you always had some cool/great stuff to say. how come you got banned? Stammers gets to cause major problems and yet you are banned, what gives? when can you come back? I look forward to seeing your posts. josh is still doing what josh does best, not win against top notch competition. take care,
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RE: Who Should Replace Tubby?
(03-17-2017 11:57 AM)VinnieVegas Wrote: (03-17-2017 11:47 AM)Tiger87 Wrote: (03-16-2017 09:20 PM)Penny Lane Wrote: (03-16-2017 09:04 PM)TubbyBall Wrote: Chris Mack is a really good coach but wasn't going to come here. There are a lot of good coaches. I'm not spazzing out like a lot. Tubby will right the ship. Unfortunately some of y'all will have to be patient. Most of you were patient with Pastner so not sure what's changed
NIT his first year and 4 straight NCAAs will give a guy a chance. When he lost fan base it was very bad as that affected everything with the program. I'm convinced had he had a reasonable contract, he would have been let go after 14-15 season when fans started bailing out big time.
Mack might not due to city ties, but you can probably count on less than 10 fingers the number of coaches that would not come here for $4.5M, 4 year contract and total control of BB. Like we offered Cal.
Mack is fine. But $4.5M a year? For a guy who has never made it past the S16. For a guy who has a lower win % at Xavier than every one of their previous 4 coaches.
Don't get me wrong - I'll take Mack. But not for $4.5M.
You want to give this guy total control and $4.5M - and you complain about the contracts of our athletic department.
Price of doing business. Josh's extension here and now Cuonzo's new deal at Mizzou have upped the anti. I can only imagine what IU offers Marshall
For a proven winner, okay. Marshall, Miller. And, yeah, the guaranteed contracts with low buyouts are becoming the norm.
But not a flyer on Pastner, Cuonzo, or Mack. There are less than 10 coaches making that kind of money.
It's moot anyway. He's not leaving his alma mater. He would just use job offers for a raise. They would match closely enough anything to keep him.
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Penny Lane
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RE: Who Should Replace Tubby?
I told you guys Chris Mack to start with. This will be his 4th S16. Think only one Tiger coach has more. Then Jankovich who got royally screwed by selection committee this year. SMU was much better than Cincy. Those are the two guys I would go for if we could get Tubby to walk away.
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RE: Who Should Replace Tubby?
Memphis isn't for everyone
It's different
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Penny Lane
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RE: Who Should Replace Tubby?
(03-17-2017 06:35 PM)Tiger87 Wrote: (03-17-2017 11:57 AM)VinnieVegas Wrote: (03-17-2017 11:47 AM)Tiger87 Wrote: (03-16-2017 09:20 PM)Penny Lane Wrote: (03-16-2017 09:04 PM)TubbyBall Wrote: Chris Mack is a really good coach but wasn't going to come here. There are a lot of good coaches. I'm not spazzing out like a lot. Tubby will right the ship. Unfortunately some of y'all will have to be patient. Most of you were patient with Pastner so not sure what's changed
NIT his first year and 4 straight NCAAs will give a guy a chance. When he lost fan base it was very bad as that affected everything with the program. I'm convinced had he had a reasonable contract, he would have been let go after 14-15 season when fans started bailing out big time.
Mack might not due to city ties, but you can probably count on less than 10 fingers the number of coaches that would not come here for $4.5M, 4 year contract and total control of BB. Like we offered Cal.
Mack is fine. But $4.5M a year? For a guy who has never made it past the S16. For a guy who has a lower win % at Xavier than every one of their previous 4 coaches.
Don't get me wrong - I'll take Mack. But not for $4.5M.
You want to give this guy total control and $4.5M - and you complain about the contracts of our athletic department.
Price of doing business. Josh's extension here and now Cuonzo's new deal at Mizzou have upped the anti. I can only imagine what IU offers Marshall
For a proven winner, okay. Marshall, Miller. And, yeah, the guaranteed contracts with low buyouts are becoming the norm.
But not a flyer on Pastner, Cuonzo, or Mack. There are less than 10 coaches making that kind of money.
It's moot anyway. He's not leaving his alma mater. He would just use job offers for a raise. They would match closely enough anything to keep him.
WTH you talking about a "flyer" on Mack? been to 4 S16 in 7-8 years which is as many as any coach we've ever had except one. Geez.
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Penny Lane
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RE: Who Should Replace Tubby?
(03-18-2017 08:26 PM)thagr82008 Wrote: (03-18-2017 07:23 PM)Easterwood Wrote: Memphis isn't for everyone
It's different
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Just like Cincy, Dallas, San Antonio, Birmingham, etc think they are different. You just have to find a good fit. Something we haven't done with our last two coaches.
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RE: Who Should Replace Tubby?
Ask your doctor if your heart is healthy enough for Memphis.
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(03-18-2017 10:17 PM)snowtiger Wrote: Ask your doctor if your heart is healthy enough for Memphis.
did you die and come back as tanyaskees?
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