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RE: Karl Benson interview from today about realignment
(05-07-2014 11:42 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  you guys didn't hear, the pick for 12 has already been made. All of his facts prove it. 03-wink http://collegesportsinfo.com/forum/viewt...start=1155










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The guy from Revenge of the Nerds? I seriously don't see how 1 person can be competitive as an entire team. I don't think even Wormser could figure out a way to help him defeat other teams all by himself. Maybe UN Jefferson's Lambda Lambda Lambda crew could help fill out the team.
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The thing about UMass is indy sucks as an option but I believe it is far more viable than most believe.

TV is pushing for more and more September conference games. That means more late season open dates (the Big 10 for years played four non-conference, 8 conference then finished the weekend before Thanksgiving).

The G5 schools are always casting about needing non-conference opponents that will go home/home.

I'm not ruling out UMass because they can be a compromise short-term fix.

Kitton is a bit off on dates. Conferences submit schedules to ESPN in February. December of 2014 would be about the last possible time to make a move for 2015.
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(05-07-2014 11:51 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  The thing about UMass is indy sucks as an option but I believe it is far more viable than most believe.

TV is pushing for more and more September conference games. That means more late season open dates (the Big 10 for years played four non-conference, 8 conference then finished the weekend before Thanksgiving).

The G5 schools are always casting about needing non-conference opponents that will go home/home.

I'm not ruling out UMass because they can be a compromise short-term fix.

Kitton is a bit off on dates. Conferences submit schedules to ESPN in February. December of 2014 would be about the last possible time to make a move for 2015.
Do you think a UMass add for fb gets NMSU a full invite or no?
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(05-07-2014 10:56 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(05-07-2014 10:09 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Will be a little surprised if UMass AD and/or BOV, if they eventually go independent, are willing to give up the
guaranteed one million or two million they would get each year in a conference, but the
independent status might work OK for them for a short period of time. Always keeps their options completely open.

Check out what UMass' take is from its membership in the A-10. There you will find the reason why they said, 'were not giving up A-10 revenue for a million from the MAC'.
They have to leave the MAC because MAC wants all their sports or none. UMass couldn't do that. MAC BB is not good.

(05-07-2014 11:00 PM)RoyK Wrote:  
(05-07-2014 10:56 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(05-07-2014 10:09 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Will be a little surprised if UMass AD and/or BOV, if they eventually go independent, are willing to give up the
guaranteed one million or two million they would get each year in a conference, but the
independent status might work OK for them for a short period of time. Always keeps their options completely open.

Check out what UMass' take is from its membership in the A-10. There you will find the reason why they said, 'were not giving up A-10 revenue for a million from the MAC'.

Gotta agree as well. Their basketball revenue trumps football money. Cacant say that too often bout schools.

What would it matter, they would only have been coming to the Sun Belt for football only. Their basketball conference is not changing.
MAC wanted them to, but they would not do that.
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RE: Karl Benson interview from today about realignment
(05-08-2014 12:04 AM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  
(05-07-2014 11:51 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  The thing about UMass is indy sucks as an option but I believe it is far more viable than most believe.

TV is pushing for more and more September conference games. That means more late season open dates (the Big 10 for years played four non-conference, 8 conference then finished the weekend before Thanksgiving).

The G5 schools are always casting about needing non-conference opponents that will go home/home.

I'm not ruling out UMass because they can be a compromise short-term fix.

Kitton is a bit off on dates. Conferences submit schedules to ESPN in February. December of 2014 would be about the last possible time to make a move for 2015.
Do you think a UMass add for fb gets NMSU a full invite or no?

Personally expect NMSU to be full members whether UMass comes to SBC in football or not.
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(05-07-2014 11:00 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  By the way, great win in DC this year. Y'all were the only ones to win there this year.
Thanks, you guys are playing well and nice win in Brooklyn for you guys.
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Why isn't UTC a candidate?
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Karl Benson interview from today about realignment
(05-07-2014 11:00 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Yea, I don't see the AAC taking you guys any time soon. They have a football problem in that they really have to try to maintain separation from the other G5 conferences. Taking UMass (or my team USA for that matter) wouldn't be helpful.

The AAC doesn't need UMass basketball. It doesn't really help them much. Especially with Uconn sitting with a national championship 35 miles away from Amherst.

By the way, great win in DC this year. Y'all were the only ones to win there this year.

I can see UMass joining the AAC if the Big Ten adds UConn. If the Big Ten added BC, I think the ACC back fills with Cincy, and the AAC adds UMass. At that point UMass would need to give up their A10 membership. UMass could easily wait until their contract runs out with the MAC, and make a decision down the road. There could be more shuffling going on between now and next summer.


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(05-08-2014 09:38 AM)JSUFan Wrote:  Why isn't UTC a candidate?

They have no money and no interest in upgrading.


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(05-07-2014 11:48 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  How is ole SWISH anyway. Haven't seen him in a few weeks. Has he given up on his dream of Lamar in the SBC? That would be depressing if so. Florida Jag has never given up on Kennesaw State...so SWISH should never give up on Lamar.

I am here. I am sitting back enjoying the show. JMU is the 12th...no no no
Mo st is the 12th...no no no EKU is the 12th...no no no UMass is the 12th...no no no sbc is inviting no one...no no no. LOL.

Moderators told me not to post updates on Lamar in this forum. I won't.
But let me give you a hint. ULM would be very happy to move to the over all weaker east in ALL sports. take it or leave it.
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(05-07-2014 11:48 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  How is ole SWISH anyway. Haven't seen him in a few weeks. Has he given up on his dream of Lamar in the SBC? That would be depressing if so. Florida Jag has never given up on Kennesaw State...so SWISH should never give up on Lamar.

He has not. We have made the bet about Lamar in the Sun Belt.

Did it over PM.
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Yeah ULM would assuredly agree to give up bus trips to AState, UALR, UTA, UL in a peaceable manner. :)
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(05-08-2014 09:38 AM)JSUFan Wrote:  Why isn't UTC a candidate?

Because they have said on several occasions that they have no interest in moving up to I-A football.
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(05-08-2014 11:06 AM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  
(05-07-2014 11:48 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  How is ole SWISH anyway. Haven't seen him in a few weeks. Has he given up on his dream of Lamar in the SBC? That would be depressing if so. Florida Jag has never given up on Kennesaw State...so SWISH should never give up on Lamar.

He has not. We have made the bet about Lamar in the Sun Belt.

Did it over PM.

He tried it with me and I wouldn't bite.
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(05-08-2014 11:09 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  Yeah ULM would assuredly agree to give up bus trips to AState, UALR, UTA, UL in a peaceable manner. :)

I've heard fans say they would love to stay in the "west" division, but if you played in the 'weaker' east then wouldn't look good to pad the stats? You would face off against the west opponent in the CCG.

Just a thought, but if ya'll wanna stay west that's cool too.
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(05-07-2014 11:51 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(05-07-2014 11:42 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  you guys didn't hear, the pick for 12 has already been made. All of his facts prove it. 03-wink http://collegesportsinfo.com/forum/viewt...start=1155










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The guy from Revenge of the Nerds? I seriously don't see how 1 person can be competitive as an entire team. I don't think even Wormser could figure out a way to help him defeat other teams all by himself. Maybe UN Jefferson's Lambda Lambda Lambda crew could help fill out the team.

All Revenge of the Nerds joking aside, I'm not quite as optimistic as SHWISH since one of the stated goals is an eastern member, but there are some reasons for consideration.

Offered Sports:

Lamar, Eastern Kentucky, and Liberty currently compete in all sports offered by the Sun Belt. Each would match Western Kentucky's sports offerings (prior to WKU dropping Men's Tennis).

Athletics Expense Comparison:

Per the most recent Department of Education OPE Equity in Athletics, Lamar's athletics expenses were higher than almost every mentioned candidate and higher than some current SBC members.

Eastern Kentucky: $11,858,777
Missouri State: $15,126,054 (includes costs for Field Hockey, Men's Soccer, and Swimming & Diving)
Jacksonville State: $12,640,684 (Includes Rifle, but no Men's T&F)
Tennessee-Chattanooga: $14,344,501 (No Baseball, but offers Wrestling)
Lamar: $15,044,029
Liberty: $25,270,726 (includes costs for M Soccer, W Field Hockey, W LaCrosse, W Swimming & Diving)

Recent Member:

Georgia Southern: $10,696,878 (Includes M Soccer, W Rifle, W Swimming & Diving)

Student Support:

As opposed to some other university's negative vote by either officially voting or expressing opinions via straw poll, Lamar students passed an athletic fee with a 78% "Yes" vote. The Lamar fee is currently $9.72 per hour compared with Texas State's $20.00 per hour so there is room to grow. (Lamar's student fee currently adds $2,174,000 to the athletic budget.)

Ability to fund facilities:

There are some great projects going on at a lot of universities. One of the challenges is to find donor funding. Whether it will continue, Lamar has had some great donors with multi-million dollar donations to both academics and athletics. Although it doesn't directly apply to athletics, our endowment has increased from around $25,000,000 to just under $100,000,000 in a five year period. During the same period, we've had over $20,000,000 in donations for athletics improvements.

Facility Updates:

The latest athletic facility will be a new on campus softball stadium. The budgeted amount is $2,600,000. The stadium is scheduled to be completed before next season. RFQ's went out in December. Per the RFQ's, architectural drawings and renditions are due the end of this month. Construction is scheduled to begin June 9 if there are no delays. The cost does not include locker rooms, study areas, restrooms, and concessions. The facility for those items was built in the $3,000,000 Soccer/Softball complex built in 2010.

One of our greatest needs is for updates to the baseball stadium. Although numerous updates have been made, the last one in 2012, $6,000,000 in renovations is budgeted for 2016.

Our football stadium was completely renovated in 2010. The renovations included new field turf (Hellas Matrix FieldTurf), new seats, new and additional restrooms, new and additional concessions, ADA compliance, new entries and deck, new concourse. Also included in the project was a 53,700 sqft Athletic Complex. Cost of the two projects was $30,000,000 + pressbox renovations + new, large scoreboard + 7 VIP suites + outdoor practice fields. The athletic complex compares favorably with Georgia Southern's and UMass's 55,000 sqft Athletic complexes currently under construction. (Although other athletes can use our facility, it is basically for football since each sport has its own facility with weight roooms, study areas, locker rooms, etc.)

The Tennis Courts, the Volleyball court (part of a $19,000,000 recreational sports project), and our basketball home also received recent renovations. Locker rooms, concessions, etc. were included in the Tennis court renovations. Like the Soccer/Softball complex, the Tennis Court project included a combined concessions, locker room, study area for both Track and Tennis.

Since money has already been spent on a lot of the sports, any future financial burden of a football stadium expansion should be reduced. A lot of facility upgrade money for other sports has already been spent. The recent football renovation did set our stadium up for a final capacity of 28,000 seats.

Academics:

According to USN&WR, we are classed as a National University. According to the Carnegie Foundation, we are classed as a Doctoral Research University. Below are some recent honors.

1. We are on the Forbes "America's Top Colleges" list again.
2. Our MBA program made the Princeton Review's "Best 295 Business Schools".
3. Our Online Graduate Program rated #3. GraduatePrograms.com rates our online graduate programs #3 in the nation. We're in pretty good company since Texas A&M is #5 and Johns Hopkins is #2.
4. Payscale.com rated us #11 best Return on Investment in Engineering in 2013. We were in pretty good company in this one also. MIT was #10. University of Virginia was #12.
5. Our MBA student team recently won first place in Graduate-Level Growth Funds at the Global Asset Management Education (G.A.M.E.) Conference at Quinnipac University. That makes the fourth straight year a Lamar team has won a category first place at the conference. (Last year's conference had representatives from 118 universities.)
6. We recently had three education programs recognized by the National Council for Accreditation of Teacher Education (NCATE).

Out of our 1,655 graduates next week, 790 will receive Masters degrees. 46 will receive Doctorates.
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Lamar Student Support 8379 showed up per game to watch you guys play football. That would put you 9th in the nation in attendance. If you were DIVISION II that is.

Lamar is not a serious option outside of LamarLand.
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(05-08-2014 12:07 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(05-08-2014 11:06 AM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  He has not. We have made the bet about Lamar in the Sun Belt.

Did it over PM.

He tried it with me and I wouldn't bite.

I can't help it... I have a gambling addiction.
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(05-08-2014 01:31 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  
(05-08-2014 12:07 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(05-08-2014 11:06 AM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  He has not. We have made the bet about Lamar in the Sun Belt.

Did it over PM.

He tried it with me and I wouldn't bite.

I can't help it... I have a gambling addiction.

My issue was he never actually said what I would win if I won the bet.
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(05-08-2014 01:15 PM)asupatch Wrote:  Lamar Student Support 8379 showed up per game to watch you guys play football. That would put you 9th in the nation in attendance. If you were DIVISION II that is.

Lamar is not a serious option outside of LamarLand.

Here is our attendance compared with some other universities discussed at length on this site. I guess the others get a pass on attendance. At least we've shown that we can average 15,000 over a two year period.

2010
Lamar 16,079
MSU 9,028
EKU 6,220

2011
Lamar 14,443
MSU 10,804
EKU 6,570

2012
Lamar 11,119
MSU 8,710
EKU 9,800

2013
Lamar 8,379
MSU 8,700
EKU 8,617
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