(04-20-2014 01:51 PM)MJG Wrote:  

(04-19-2014 08:53 PM)nmsuaggies Wrote:  NMSU has a better football stadium. We are installing the field turf before the season. NMSU also has Aggie Vision, which is going to HD next season. What does Idaho have?

I don't think any Vandal fans hope for NMSU to fail.
The question is must because both are football only .

NMSU is contiguous to the SBC West But 600 miles from the current farthest West team Texas State. Idaho can do nothing about the geography . Expanding the dome can silence all but the most unreasonable critic's.

The dome if expanded to 25-26 thousand with the dig down would be awesome. The cost would be around 30-35 million so it is not out of reach. Building a new dome of similar size would be in excess of 150 million . So Idaho is closer to having really nice facilities than most realize.

Talk is cheap and so are plans unless you execute them . Idaho fans dream of the day facilities are no longer an issue.

Can you at least get the freakin goalposts off the walls?

Idaho has more football history than half the teams in this conference. A shame when teams here are calling for Idaho to step down because of the travel costs and smaller football arena. If your school can't afford the trip to Idaho it sounds YOUR school should step down.

The majority of Idaho's fanbase is in Boise, thus the attendance issues. It isn't a lack of fans but geographic adversity.

(04-21-2014 09:59 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  Idaho has more football history than half the teams in this conference. A shame when teams here are calling for Idaho to step down because of the travel costs and smaller football arena. If your school can't afford the trip to Idaho it sounds YOUR school should step down.

The majority of Idaho's fanbase is in Boise, thus the attendance issues. It isn't a lack of fans but geographic adversity.

VERY few posters are saying that Idaho should move down. But it's a clear fact that Idaho is not in the geographic footprint of the Sun Belt.

I think most are saying, "you don't have to go home, but you can't stay here." (which is funny by itself, as we have no power to push anyone out)

(04-16-2014 12:09 AM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  If CUSA, MAC, and the Sun Belt moved to FCS it seriously would not be the end of the world. It would actually make FCS interesting again to see teams like Georgia Southern and Marshall go at it for the national championship.

Why would any of these schools not named Eastern Michigan move down to FCS?

(04-21-2014 09:59 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  Idaho has more football history than half the teams in this conference. A shame when teams here are calling for Idaho to step down because of the travel costs and smaller football arena. If your school can't afford the trip to Idaho it sounds YOUR school should step down.

The majority of Idaho's fanbase is in Boise, thus the attendance issues. It isn't a lack of fans but geographic adversity.

(04-21-2014 09:59 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  Idaho has more football history than half the teams in this conference. A shame when teams here are calling for Idaho to step down because of the travel costs and smaller football arena. If your school can't afford the trip to Idaho it sounds YOUR school should step down.

The majority of Idaho's fanbase is in Boise, thus the attendance issues. It isn't a lack of fans but geographic adversity.

"Having history" doesn't necessarily mean anything positive.
Personally would like to see Idaho continue in the Sun Belt, but believe they need to get off the pot and build something to seat more people at the very least.

(04-21-2014 09:59 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  Idaho has more football history than half the teams in this conference. A shame when teams here are calling for Idaho to step down because of the travel costs and smaller football arena. If your school can't afford the trip to Idaho it sounds YOUR school should step down.

The majority of Idaho's fanbase is in Boise, thus the attendance issues. It isn't a lack of fans but geographic adversity.

It's mainly due to their so called dome. I mean let's get serious about football at this level. I wish Tulane much success in their new stadium. I figure you guys have have about a two year window to win back the folks around St. Charles. If the Green Wave can provide an exciting product on the field, it shouldn't be a problem to fill that stadium. I don't think anyone but a few LSU fans wish to see an empty new stadium.

I wish Toolame nothing good. So yes an empty stadium after the initial rush will be a good thing. And they will be back to losing this year. They barely won in a very, very week C USA this year, played MoanROW with an their all everything quarterback injured and half speed. Additionally lost their Lou Groza award winning kicker. No, no, things will be much the same as the last decade at TooLame, empty seats, and bad football.

(04-22-2014 12:16 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  

(04-21-2014 09:59 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  Idaho has more football history than half the teams in this conference. A shame when teams here are calling for Idaho to step down because of the travel costs and smaller football arena. If your school can't afford the trip to Idaho it sounds YOUR school should step down.

The majority of Idaho's fanbase is in Boise, thus the attendance issues. It isn't a lack of fans but geographic adversity.

"Having history" doesn't necessarily mean anything positive.
Personally would like to see Idaho continue in the Sun Belt, but believe they need to get off the pot and build something to seat more people at the very least.

Why do you need to add more seats when you can't fill what you have?

Add and improve concessions, add new concourses, add interactive wireless, add new video, add comfy seats, add lasers.

Add stuff that makes the experience better to sell the seats you have. When you sell-out bump up the prices and start thinking about new seats then.

(04-22-2014 12:44 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(04-22-2014 12:16 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  

(04-21-2014 09:59 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  Idaho has more football history than half the teams in this conference. A shame when teams here are calling for Idaho to step down because of the travel costs and smaller football arena. If your school can't afford the trip to Idaho it sounds YOUR school should step down.

The majority of Idaho's fanbase is in Boise, thus the attendance issues. It isn't a lack of fans but geographic adversity.

"Having history" doesn't necessarily mean anything positive.
Personally would like to see Idaho continue in the Sun Belt, but believe they need to get off the pot and build something to seat more people at the very least.

Why do you need to add more seats when you can't fill what you have?

Add and improve concessions, add new concourses, add interactive wireless, add new video, add comfy seats, add lasers.

Add stuff that makes the experience better to sell the seats you have. When you sell-out bump up the prices and start thinking about new seats then.

I can't believe I'm taking up for Tulane but you are just wrong. In the early 70's when the Superdome was built, Tulane had a very strong local non attached following. Logic would dictate that a state of the art facility would keep those fans local and the rest would be unicorns and chocolate chip cookies. What it did was alienate the students that would have to drive several miles while intoxicated to the Superdome.

I've been to several non UL vs. Tulane games and the Superdome to yourself is a surreal experience. The old money guys loved it but there was no game day atmosphere to speak of. It was nice not having to wait in line for anything but I almost feel to sleep during a Texas game. That's how bad the atmosphere was. They must win back the folks that travel an hour to BR to become what they once where. It's not impossible. If you look at LSU's history it's not that great till the 1990's. Before Saban their only national championship was in I believe 1958. The new next to their college stadium might just be what Tulane needed. We will see in the next few years.

(04-22-2014 12:44 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(04-22-2014 12:16 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  

(04-21-2014 09:59 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  Idaho has more football history than half the teams in this conference. A shame when teams here are calling for Idaho to step down because of the travel costs and smaller football arena. If your school can't afford the trip to Idaho it sounds YOUR school should step down.

The majority of Idaho's fanbase is in Boise, thus the attendance issues. It isn't a lack of fans but geographic adversity.

"Having history" doesn't necessarily mean anything positive.
Personally would like to see Idaho continue in the Sun Belt, but believe they need to get off the pot and build something to seat more people at the very least.

Why do you need to add more seats when you can't fill what you have?

Add and improve concessions, add new concourses, add interactive wireless, add new video, add comfy seats, add lasers.

Add stuff that makes the experience better to sell the seats you have. When you sell-out bump up the prices and start thinking about new seats then.

Idaho has done most of that. A lot of people talk sh!t about the Kibbie Dome, but I feel like they haven't been to it since the renovation. The only thing it's lacking is seating capacity. Our video board is brand new, the concourses are new, the walls are now translucent, I think there's now wireless, etc.

It looks like this:



Not like this:



Honestly, people can f8ck off about the goal posts. Lamest criticism ever.

(04-22-2014 05:54 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  

(04-22-2014 12:44 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(04-22-2014 12:16 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  

(04-21-2014 09:59 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  Idaho has more football history than half the teams in this conference. A shame when teams here are calling for Idaho to step down because of the travel costs and smaller football arena. If your school can't afford the trip to Idaho it sounds YOUR school should step down.

The majority of Idaho's fanbase is in Boise, thus the attendance issues. It isn't a lack of fans but geographic adversity.

"Having history" doesn't necessarily mean anything positive.
Personally would like to see Idaho continue in the Sun Belt, but believe they need to get off the pot and build something to seat more people at the very least.

Why do you need to add more seats when you can't fill what you have?

Add and improve concessions, add new concourses, add interactive wireless, add new video, add comfy seats, add lasers.

Add stuff that makes the experience better to sell the seats you have. When you sell-out bump up the prices and start thinking about new seats then.

Idaho has done most of that. A lot of people talk sh!t about the Kibbie Dome, but I feel like they haven't been to it since the renovation. The only thing it's lacking is seating capacity.

And the increased seating capacity is coming... Most here not only have never been to the Kibbie, but don't realize the extensive renovations that HAD TO be done just a few years ago. Called "life safety improvements" or the facility had to be shut down. The new light panels are a big upgrade - but the new luxury boxes, etc.. also was a decision to make more $$. Many improvements were made, except capacity.

Also an issue many here don't know is that UI basketball is played in the Kibbie Dome and the first priority currently is to build a new Event Center for the basketball program. Something that is long overdue also. After that happens, and the Kibbie is 100% dedicated to football, expansion of capacity is going to happen. Plans discussed are to get the capacity to around 27K - including additional upper decks, endzone sections, and possibly even a dig down. That would match about what is expected in the mid-major FBS.

UI football just needs to start wining again. Idaho was able to sell out the Kibbie Dome when they played in the Big Sky conference many years ago, and it will happen again. And, talk about loud!!!! A full 16K Kibbie Dome is louder than most FBS stadiums I've ever been to. It's the uniqueness of being in a dome.

(04-22-2014 06:09 PM)VandyBen Wrote:  

(04-22-2014 05:54 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  

(04-22-2014 12:44 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(04-22-2014 12:16 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  

(04-21-2014 09:59 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  Idaho has more football history than half the teams in this conference. A shame when teams here are calling for Idaho to step down because of the travel costs and smaller football arena. If your school can't afford the trip to Idaho it sounds YOUR school should step down.

The majority of Idaho's fanbase is in Boise, thus the attendance issues. It isn't a lack of fans but geographic adversity.

"Having history" doesn't necessarily mean anything positive.
Personally would like to see Idaho continue in the Sun Belt, but believe they need to get off the pot and build something to seat more people at the very least.

Why do you need to add more seats when you can't fill what you have?

Add and improve concessions, add new concourses, add interactive wireless, add new video, add comfy seats, add lasers.

Add stuff that makes the experience better to sell the seats you have. When you sell-out bump up the prices and start thinking about new seats then.

Idaho has done most of that. A lot of people talk sh!t about the Kibbie Dome, but I feel like they haven't been to it since the renovation. The only thing it's lacking is seating capacity.

And the increased seating capacity is coming... Most here not only have never been to the Kibbie, but don't realize the extensive renovations that HAD TO be done just a few years ago. Called "life safety improvements" or the facility had to be shut down. The new light panels are a big upgrade - but the new luxury boxes, etc.. also was a decision to make more $$. Many improvements were made, except capacity.

Also an issue many here don't know is that UI basketball is played in the Kibbie Dome and the first priority currently is to build a new Event Center for the basketball program. Something that is long overdue also. After that happens, and the Kibbie is 100% dedicated to football, expansion of capacity is going to happen. Plans discussed are to get the capacity to around 27K - including additional upper decks, endzone sections, and possibly even a dig down. That would match about what is expected in the mid-major FBS.

UI football just needs to start wining again. Idaho was able to sell out the Kibbie Dome when they played in the Big Sky conference many years ago, and it will happen again.

I seem to remember reading that we spend around the same amount of money on renovations that the seating expansion would cost. Nothing to laugh at.

(04-22-2014 05:54 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  

(04-22-2014 12:44 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(04-22-2014 12:16 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  

(04-21-2014 09:59 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  Idaho has more football history than half the teams in this conference. A shame when teams here are calling for Idaho to step down because of the travel costs and smaller football arena. If your school can't afford the trip to Idaho it sounds YOUR school should step down.

The majority of Idaho's fanbase is in Boise, thus the attendance issues. It isn't a lack of fans but geographic adversity.

"Having history" doesn't necessarily mean anything positive.
Personally would like to see Idaho continue in the Sun Belt, but believe they need to get off the pot and build something to seat more people at the very least.

Why do you need to add more seats when you can't fill what you have?

Add and improve concessions, add new concourses, add interactive wireless, add new video, add comfy seats, add lasers.

Add stuff that makes the experience better to sell the seats you have. When you sell-out bump up the prices and start thinking about new seats then.

Idaho has done most of that. A lot of people talk sh!t about the Kibbie Dome, but I feel like they haven't been to it since the renovation. The only thing it's lacking is seating capacity. Our video board is brand new, the concourses are new, the walls are now translucent, I think there's now wireless, etc.

It looks like this:



Not like this:



Honestly, people can f8ck off about the goal posts. Lamest criticism ever.

Dude its a strange venue to say the least. Winning will solve many of your problems like it's doing for us. Raving on the internet usually doesn't solve a thing.

(04-22-2014 06:31 PM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote:  

(04-22-2014 05:54 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  

(04-22-2014 12:44 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(04-22-2014 12:16 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  

(04-21-2014 09:59 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  Idaho has more football history than half the teams in this conference. A shame when teams here are calling for Idaho to step down because of the travel costs and smaller football arena. If your school can't afford the trip to Idaho it sounds YOUR school should step down.

The majority of Idaho's fanbase is in Boise, thus the attendance issues. It isn't a lack of fans but geographic adversity.

"Having history" doesn't necessarily mean anything positive.
Personally would like to see Idaho continue in the Sun Belt, but believe they need to get off the pot and build something to seat more people at the very least.

Why do you need to add more seats when you can't fill what you have?

Add and improve concessions, add new concourses, add interactive wireless, add new video, add comfy seats, add lasers.

Add stuff that makes the experience better to sell the seats you have. When you sell-out bump up the prices and start thinking about new seats then.

Idaho has done most of that. A lot of people talk sh!t about the Kibbie Dome, but I feel like they haven't been to it since the renovation. The only thing it's lacking is seating capacity. Our video board is brand new, the concourses are new, the walls are now translucent, I think there's now wireless, etc.

It looks like this:



Not like this:



Honestly, people can f8ck off about the goal posts. Lamest criticism ever.

Dude its a strange venue to say the least. Winning will solve many of your problems like it's doing for us. Raving on the internet usually doesn't solve a thing.

I'm not sure how something as basic as an arched roof is strange. Functional is the word I'd use, not strange. An indoor venue is a major plus is north Idaho. A 27K indoor venue would be straight up awesome.

Biggest mistake Idaho made De - emphasizing athletics due to a scandal that we were not involved in.
Idaho would be in the PAC 12 if that decision instead was the opposite of that.

Building a 18k dome to replace a 25K stadium that we use to host WSU and Oregon and other top Western schools.

How Idaho has been lucky the dome is expandable most are not like the Fargo Dome. The small second decks for three thousand additional sideline seats is new technology. The company who built are suites and new press box has given a reasonable quote to get it done.

One more way Idaho has been lucky is getting invited back to the SBC for football only and BSC for everything else.

I guess other conference members have those bad decisions/luck and lucky breaks.
Two new conference members having ready made stadiums. Still others who could just as easily be on the outside of FBS with no spots left. Literally half the conference is between one and three years from that scenario.

(04-22-2014 06:56 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  

(04-22-2014 06:31 PM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote:  

(04-22-2014 05:54 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  

(04-22-2014 12:44 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(04-22-2014 12:16 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  "Having history" doesn't necessarily mean anything positive.
Personally would like to see Idaho continue in the Sun Belt, but believe they need to get off the pot and build something to seat more people at the very least.

Why do you need to add more seats when you can't fill what you have?

Add and improve concessions, add new concourses, add interactive wireless, add new video, add comfy seats, add lasers.

Add stuff that makes the experience better to sell the seats you have. When you sell-out bump up the prices and start thinking about new seats then.

Idaho has done most of that. A lot of people talk sh!t about the Kibbie Dome, but I feel like they haven't been to it since the renovation. The only thing it's lacking is seating capacity. Our video board is brand new, the concourses are new, the walls are now translucent, I think there's now wireless, etc.

It looks like this:



Not like this:



Honestly, people can f8ck off about the goal posts. Lamest criticism ever.

Dude its a strange venue to say the least. Winning will solve many of your problems like it's doing for us. Raving on the internet usually doesn't solve a thing.

I'm not sure how something as basic as an arched roof is strange. Functional is the word I'd use, not strange. An indoor venue is a major plus is north Idaho. A 27K indoor venue would be straight up awesome.

It's like a giant airplane hanger and not a dome. I understand the winter in Idaho can be brutal. When I was young I went skiing in Sun Valley. Truthfully, I will never venture that far north again so I will never see the inside of the Kibbie Dome. Boise did well with an odd blue turf open air stadium. Again, winning will solve your problems. Until recently, we had no room to talk. Our stadium was built in the 70's with no renovations till recently that I'm aware of. We started winning, the money started flowing and BOOM! Renovations to an old stadium. I wish you guys the best.

Not sure why the insults are being thrown at Tulane in a Vandal thread. Grow up.



That said... havent been up to UofI in 8 years but glad to see kibbie renovs. Post more if you have em!!

(04-26-2014 11:17 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Not sure why the insults are being thrown at Tulane in a Vandal thread. Grow up.



That said... havent been up to UofI in 8 years but glad to see kibbie renovs. Post more if you have em!!

I guess if their dome was round people would be saying ..wow Idaho has an indoor stadium. I dont think it is that bad and eliminates games outdoors in windy blizzard conditions. people should cut em some slack

The Kibbie Dome is different currently the capacity makes that a negative. Expansion would turn it into a positive and of course some positive points are already there.

The dome is fourteen stories high and the end walls are easy to expand into for end zone seating.
The giant pillars that supports the barrel arched roof can support small upper decks. The stands are to far from the field so a dig down will add four thousand seats. So twenty two thousand seats on the sidelines. Now a conventional dome built to seat eighteen thousand would not have the expansion options .