(04-15-2014 01:41 PM)Tuscon Wrote:  

(04-15-2014 10:56 AM)mrklean Wrote:  Come to find out, these were not students from GSU. These are the locals who came over for Homecoming.

I received my Masters from Ga ST.(1992-94) and my car was broken into two times by the same Homeless Guy. The last time I caught him, and.....he wont be do that again.

But Ga St is Ghetto as hell.

So our locals break into your car and your locals start brawls. What's the difference?

....20 years ago

(04-15-2014 02:09 PM)panama Wrote:  ....20 years ago

It's no mystery property crime is bad in Atlanta. I know it. You know it. They know it. His point was that his school wasn't ghetto because those weren't students. Does he think the homeless guy that broke into his car twice was a Georgia State student?

(04-15-2014 02:27 PM)Tuscon Wrote:  

(04-15-2014 02:09 PM)panama Wrote:  ....20 years ago

It's no mystery property crime is bad in Atlanta. I know it. You know it. They know it. His point was that his school wasn't ghetto because those weren't students. Does he think the homeless guy that broke into his car twice was a Georgia State student?

Unless you live in a field on a mountain somewhere where is property crime not bad in the United States? That and I am really sick of the "I went to the Omni in 1987 and Atlanta sucks" argument. Getting a little old.

(04-15-2014 02:56 PM)panama Wrote:  

(04-15-2014 02:27 PM)Tuscon Wrote:  

(04-15-2014 02:09 PM)panama Wrote:  ....20 years ago

It's no mystery property crime is bad in Atlanta. I know it. You know it. They know it. His point was that his school wasn't ghetto because those weren't students. Does he think the homeless guy that broke into his car twice was a Georgia State student?

Unless you live in a field on a mountain somewhere where is property crime not bad in the United States? That and I am really sick of the "I went to the Omni in 1987 and Atlanta sucks" argument. Getting a little old.

Like I said I will defend the ATL to no end with my AL buddies who try describe ATL as some homogeneous crime ridden area. As some or close to half of the ATL will be nicer than the Birmingham city limits will ever see in our lifetimes but crime stats are what they are. SOME areas of the ATL like the areas around GSU and Georgia Ave are the main reason the ATL is a top ten crime city. It is what it is. Again, the city leadership failed miserably in using the stadium to make the area safe and nice. If your are going to ask folks from the northern burbs to take make that trip and spend money in your city at least make the area decent to grab a bite or a beer. Also though I am usually against multi purpose stadiums I think it would make sense for GSU to consider it, due to the high land costs. Baseball is never going to get off the ground playing in Panthersville.

BTW Bham and or AL folks I have invested in real estate and am good friends with appraisers over there so I am not doing what my friends do in forming an opinion about the ATL. I know the difference in Helena and Hoover and Trussville and Centerpoint.

(04-15-2014 06:09 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(04-15-2014 02:56 PM)panama Wrote:  

(04-15-2014 02:27 PM)Tuscon Wrote:  

(04-15-2014 02:09 PM)panama Wrote:  ....20 years ago

It's no mystery property crime is bad in Atlanta. I know it. You know it. They know it. His point was that his school wasn't ghetto because those weren't students. Does he think the homeless guy that broke into his car twice was a Georgia State student?

Unless you live in a field on a mountain somewhere where is property crime not bad in the United States? That and I am really sick of the "I went to the Omni in 1987 and Atlanta sucks" argument. Getting a little old.

Like I said I will defend the ATL to no end with my AL buddies who try describe ATL as some homogeneous crime ridden area. As some or close to half of the ATL will be nicer than the Birmingham city limits will ever see in our lifetimes but crime stats are what they are. SOME areas of the ATL like the areas around GSU and Georgia Ave are the main reason the ATL is a top ten crime city. It is what it is. Again, the city leadership failed miserably in using the stadium to make the area safe and nice. If your are going to ask folks from the northern burbs to take make that trip and spend money in your city at least make the area decent to grab a bite or a beer. Also though I am usually against multi purpose stadiums I think it would make sense for GSU to consider it, due to the high land costs. Baseball is never going to get off the ground playing in Panthersville.

BTW Bham and or AL folks I have invested in real estate and am good friends with appraisers over there so I am not doing what my friends do in forming an opinion about the ATL. I know the difference in Helena and Hoover and Trussville and Centerpoint.

Just quit. Atlanta is comparable to other cities of its size. Yes, it has more crime than Statesboro, but what did you expect? 33,000 students actively choose to go to GSU and they come and go every day with no incident. Georgia State and downtown aren't the problem areas, Bankhead and English Ave are, and they're closer to Tech, not State, but you don't have a problem with Tech so you try to make it seem like GSU is the problem area. As for Turner Field, it's not like the city decided to stick a stadium in the middle of a bad area, they built a stadium and guess what, opportunistic thieves do what they do around the world; prey on tourists and people visiting. And guess what'll happen when the Braves no longer play at Turner Field; they wont bother thieving there, they'll go to other places.

To say GSU is in the middle of the ghetto isn't just ignorant, it shows your agenda, which is basically trying to bash GSU because who knows, you feel inadequate with your university i guess.

Lol. Atlanta is a hellhole compared to bigger cities.

(04-16-2014 02:15 AM)eagleskins Wrote:  Lol. Atlanta is a hellhole compared to bigger cities.

Could you name those other cities you are comparing Atl to?

Exactly, because I can make the case easily that Savannah and Macon are hell holes because they have more per capita gang violence and drug trafficking. Do I consider them hell holes? Absolutely not. Comments like that belie an agenda. The truth for those who live here is that you are in more danger in Norcross or Cobb Parkway than in Downtown Atlanta. Is Miami metro a hell hole because because it includes Hialeah and Liberty City? It also includes Coral Gables and Miami Beach. For every "bad" neighborhood in Atlanta we can name 5 great ones. Hell holes do not add 100k residents per year.

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Didn't APD just hire more of "tha Po-Po" as Madea would say ?
I took a trip down to Grady recently, and felt safe, I've been to Turner Field numerous times and felt safe, even out in those grass parking lots.
The only time I was a little uneasy was when me and my wife were down at CNN Center and we walked over to the dome and were approached by two thuggish characters wanting to sell us some kind of news paper, I thought it might have been to get me to pull out my wallet. They went their own way though.
Now I'm in route sales, and my area has reached as far as Buford Hwy & Claremont and my vehicle has been raided there when I was in an account, but that's nowhere near downtown . We had another salesman to be held up at gun point down on Ponce near E. Atl City Hall. At another account another vendor driver was shot, but that was out on 285.
The thing is crime can happen anywhere.
In the Atl, you can go from good area to bad in little distance. Buckhead is a good area, go over to Buford Hwy and good luck. They don't call Chamblee "Chambodia" for nothing, but that's miles from GSU.
So I don't buy into this whole crime issue. It's certainly hasn't stopped people from attending events at the Dome and Phillips.
The GT area had a rash of crime a while back, but I haven't heard anything recently.
This thread was about the possibility of State getting the 55 acres of property that Turner Field occupies. I'm all for it. If they can renovate the Ted, and build down there, I think that'd be great.
As I said, crime can happen anywhere. My first cousin's husband (officer Buddy Christian)was a police officer with Athens-Clarke county, three years ago on March 22 he was murdered behind the wheel of his patrol car by Jamie Hood, who admitted to it, who also shot officer Tony Howard not once but twice, then car jacked another vehicle in fleeing. He stayed on the run till that Friday when he eventually surrendered in theatric fashion. Even Athens Ga has crime, just follow @JoeJohnsonABH, and you'll get all the details.
So yah, I hope Georgia State can make it work. They need their own stadium, and who wants to see the Ted, not even 20 years old torn down .


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(04-16-2014 06:19 AM)DawggoneEagle Wrote:  Didn't APD just hire more of "tha Po-Po" as Madea would say ?
I took a trip down to Grady recently, and felt safe, I've been to Turner Field numerous times and felt safe, even out in those grass parking lots.
The only time I was a little uneasy was when me and my wife were down at CNN Center and we walked over to the dome and were approached by two thuggish characters wanting to sell us some kind of news paper, I thought it might have been to get me to pull out my wallet. They went their own way though.
Now I'm in route sales, and my area has reached as far as Buford Hwy & Claremont and my vehicle has been raided there when I was in an account, but that's nowhere near downtown . We had another salesman to be held up at gun point down on Ponce near E. Atl City Hall. At another account another vendor driver was shot, but that was out on 285.
The thing is crime can happen anywhere.
In the Atl, you can go from good area to bad in little distance. Buckhead is a good area, go over to Buford Hwy and good luck. They don't call Chamblee "Chambodia" for nothing, but that's miles from GSU.
So I don't buy into this whole crime issue. It's certainly hasn't stopped people from attending events at the Dome and Phillips.
The GT area had a rash of crime a while back, but I haven't heard anything recently.
This thread was about the possibility of State getting the 55 acres of property that Turner Field occupies. I'm all for it. If they can renovate the Ted, and build down there, I think that'd be great.
As I said, crime can happen anywhere. My first cousin's husband (officer Buddy Christian)was a police officer with Athens-Clarke county, three years ago on March 22 he was murdered behind the wheel of his patrol car by Jamie Hood, who admitted to it, who also shot officer Tony Howard not once but twice, then car jacked another vehicle in fleeing. He stayed on the run till that Friday when he eventually surrendered in theatric fashion. Even Athens Ga has crime, just follow @JoeJohnsonABH, and you'll get all the details.
So yah, I hope Georgia State can make it work. They need their own stadium, and who wants to see the Ted, not even 20 years old torn down .


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This entire thread has turned into a childish pissing contest.

And it came to a proper end with a great post

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I see State moving on to the AAC or CUSA down the road, they more fit that profile, and being replaced by KSU. Vaughn Williams the Owls AD has even said they'd like to become a N.GA equivalent to Georgia Southern, and I can see that maybe as early as ten years from now.
So the Panther Nation taking over the Ted if and when that happens IMO is a good thing.
I know they've been a few fans short, but I know there are droves of band wagon jumpers out there in and around the metro area itching to embrace State, they're just waiting to see State start winning. When that happens, they'll fill a thirty thousand seat venue. I believe it, and that'll be good for our rivalry.


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(04-16-2014 02:15 AM)eagleskins Wrote:  Lol. Atlanta is a hellhole compared to bigger cities.

Which bigger cities?

(04-16-2014 08:41 AM)DawggoneEagle Wrote:  I see State moving on to the AAC or CUSA down the road, they more fit that profile, and being replaced by KSU. Vaughn Williams the Owls AD has even said they'd like to become a N.GA equivalent to Georgia Southern, and I can see that maybe as early as ten years from now.
So the Panther Nation taking over the Ted if and when that happens IMO is a good thing.
I know they've been a few fans short, but I know there are droves of band wagon jumpers out there in and around the metro area itching to embrace State, they're just waiting to see State start winning. When that happens, they'll fill a thirty thousand seat venue. I believe it, and that'll be good for our rivalry.


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Lets no pack the moving trucks yet. And if that ever happened I hope we still play Southern

True That !


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(04-15-2014 11:08 PM)itsmeagain Wrote:  

(04-15-2014 06:09 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(04-15-2014 02:56 PM)panama Wrote:  

(04-15-2014 02:27 PM)Tuscon Wrote:  

(04-15-2014 02:09 PM)panama Wrote:  ....20 years ago

It's no mystery property crime is bad in Atlanta. I know it. You know it. They know it. His point was that his school wasn't ghetto because those weren't students. Does he think the homeless guy that broke into his car twice was a Georgia State student?

Unless you live in a field on a mountain somewhere where is property crime not bad in the United States? That and I am really sick of the "I went to the Omni in 1987 and Atlanta sucks" argument. Getting a little old.

Like I said I will defend the ATL to no end with my AL buddies who try describe ATL as some homogeneous crime ridden area. As some or close to half of the ATL will be nicer than the Birmingham city limits will ever see in our lifetimes but crime stats are what they are. SOME areas of the ATL like the areas around GSU and Georgia Ave are the main reason the ATL is a top ten crime city. It is what it is. Again, the city leadership failed miserably in using the stadium to make the area safe and nice. If your are going to ask folks from the northern burbs to take make that trip and spend money in your city at least make the area decent to grab a bite or a beer. Also though I am usually against multi purpose stadiums I think it would make sense for GSU to consider it, due to the high land costs. Baseball is never going to get off the ground playing in Panthersville.

BTW Bham and or AL folks I have invested in real estate and am good friends with appraisers over there so I am not doing what my friends do in forming an opinion about the ATL. I know the difference in Helena and Hoover and Trussville and Centerpoint.

Just quit. Atlanta is comparable to other cities of its size. Yes, it has more crime than Statesboro, but what did you expect? 33,000 students actively choose to go to GSU and they come and go every day with no incident. Georgia State and downtown aren't the problem areas, Bankhead and English Ave are, and they're closer to Tech, not State, but you don't have a problem with Tech so you try to make it seem like GSU is the problem area. As for Turner Field, it's not like the city decided to stick a stadium in the middle of a bad area, they built a stadium and guess what, opportunistic thieves do what they do around the world; prey on tourists and people visiting. And guess what'll happen when the Braves no longer play at Turner Field; they wont bother thieving there, they'll go to other places.

To say GSU is in the middle of the ghetto isn't just ignorant, it shows your agenda, which is basically trying to bash GSU because who knows, you feel inadequate with your university i guess.

Ummm crime rates are calculated so population sizes are not a factor..hence one in X chance of being stabbed in the neck etc. Also crime maps are a useful tool the high crime areas are in that area of the city. Again it is not the amount of crime necessarily it is HOW LIKELY you are to be a victim. This is how you can compare ATL with NYC who has a lot more people. Case in point in LA your were no where close to being a victim of violent crime in 2012 with nearly 3M more people within its city limits. I also never said GT was safe I actually said that area is not great either but put words in my mouth if it makes you feel better. There are crime city rankings and the ATL is top ten bottom line not good, spin it any way you want. Is it Kabul no, but it is not safe compared to the vast majority of large cities end of story. If you got a problem with that ***** to the FBI and other services for ranking and compiling crime stats. I have no problem with GS it is a traditional college campus. It's a relatively young university with a that has seen more growth and academic improvement in the last two +/- decades than it has in its entire history. I don't believe we have lost ground to anybody or very few since the growth spurt started and even past many schools SAT scores that would have been thought not possible just a decade or so ago.

http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/neighbo...hborhoods/

http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/ga/atla...niel-mary/

Big city comparisons. 2012
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Stat...crime_rate

BTW those rankings are based on violent crime not petty thieves breaking into tourists cars.

(04-16-2014 12:27 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(04-15-2014 11:08 PM)itsmeagain Wrote:  

(04-15-2014 06:09 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(04-15-2014 02:56 PM)panama Wrote:  

(04-15-2014 02:27 PM)Tuscon Wrote:  It's no mystery property crime is bad in Atlanta. I know it. You know it. They know it. His point was that his school wasn't ghetto because those weren't students. Does he think the homeless guy that broke into his car twice was a Georgia State student?

Unless you live in a field on a mountain somewhere where is property crime not bad in the United States? That and I am really sick of the "I went to the Omni in 1987 and Atlanta sucks" argument. Getting a little old.

Like I said I will defend the ATL to no end with my AL buddies who try describe ATL as some homogeneous crime ridden area. As some or close to half of the ATL will be nicer than the Birmingham city limits will ever see in our lifetimes but crime stats are what they are. SOME areas of the ATL like the areas around GSU and Georgia Ave are the main reason the ATL is a top ten crime city. It is what it is. Again, the city leadership failed miserably in using the stadium to make the area safe and nice. If your are going to ask folks from the northern burbs to take make that trip and spend money in your city at least make the area decent to grab a bite or a beer. Also though I am usually against multi purpose stadiums I think it would make sense for GSU to consider it, due to the high land costs. Baseball is never going to get off the ground playing in Panthersville.

BTW Bham and or AL folks I have invested in real estate and am good friends with appraisers over there so I am not doing what my friends do in forming an opinion about the ATL. I know the difference in Helena and Hoover and Trussville and Centerpoint.

Just quit. Atlanta is comparable to other cities of its size. Yes, it has more crime than Statesboro, but what did you expect? 33,000 students actively choose to go to GSU and they come and go every day with no incident. Georgia State and downtown aren't the problem areas, Bankhead and English Ave are, and they're closer to Tech, not State, but you don't have a problem with Tech so you try to make it seem like GSU is the problem area. As for Turner Field, it's not like the city decided to stick a stadium in the middle of a bad area, they built a stadium and guess what, opportunistic thieves do what they do around the world; prey on tourists and people visiting. And guess what'll happen when the Braves no longer play at Turner Field; they wont bother thieving there, they'll go to other places.

To say GSU is in the middle of the ghetto isn't just ignorant, it shows your agenda, which is basically trying to bash GSU because who knows, you feel inadequate with your university i guess.

Ummm crime rates are calculated so population sizes are not a factor..hence one in X chance of being stabbed in the neck etc. Also crime maps are a useful tool the high crime areas are in that area of the city. Again it is not the amount of crime necessarily it is HOW LIKELY you are to be a victim. This is how you can compare ATL with NYC who has a lot more people. Case in point in LA your were no where close to being a victim of violent crime in 2012 with nearly 3M more people within its city limits. I also never said GT was safe I actually said that area is not great either but put words in my mouth if it makes you feel better. There are crime city rankings and the ATL is top ten bottom line not good, spin it any way you want. Is it Kabul no, but it is not safe compared to the vast majority of large cities end of story. If you got a problem with that ***** to the FBI and other services for ranking and compiling crime stats. I have no problem with GS it is a traditional college campus. It's a relatively young university with a that has seen more growth and academic improvement in the last two +/- decades than it has in its entire history. I don't believe we have lost ground to anybody or very few since the growth spurt started and even past many schools SAT scores that would have been thought not possible just a decade or so ago.

http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/neighbo...hborhoods/

http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/ga/atla...niel-mary/

Big city comparisons. 2012
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Stat...crime_rate

BTW those rankings are based on violent crime not petty thieves breaking into tourists cars.

(04-16-2014 08:15 AM)GreenHornet33 Wrote:  This entire thread has turned into a childish pissing contest.

If I were you, I wouldn't come back. I'd go to the SWAC board.

(04-16-2014 02:14 PM)JoeJag Wrote:  

(04-16-2014 08:15 AM)GreenHornet33 Wrote:  This entire thread has turned into a childish pissing contest.

If I were you, I wouldn't come back. I'd go to the SWAC board.