(12-19-2013 08:50 AM)cinbinsportsfan Wrote:  

(12-18-2013 05:10 PM)JackieTreehorn Wrote:  

(12-18-2013 04:49 PM)ThinkBigPine Wrote:  

(12-18-2013 04:30 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(12-18-2013 04:12 PM)ThinkBigPine Wrote:  I was looking at Teague's profile and it doesn't look like anyone is recruiting him.

When you steal $700 worth of electronics from various dorm rooms, that's probably a red flag.

I would absolutely love to have him back (as I think he's a better version of RDA4) but there's a metric ton of baggage with him. Clarke is all but a lock to the B1G by all indications, though he has the size, speed, and production to fill in nicely in the hole in our LB corps.

Also, wasn't Clinkscales the recruit who said our staff was talking Big12?

Haha yeah I'd say that is a huge red flag.

I liked Clarke when he originally committed and would love to bring him back in.

Yeah I believe it was Clinkscale.

Clinkscale is our DB coach who allegedly told a JUCO DT recruit that we were joining the B12 soon.

Steve Clinkscale is our DB. Terrell ClinkscaleS is the JUCO DT recruit. It is all kinds of hilarious to me that Clinkscale is recruiting a kid with almost the the exact same name.

Would've been really nice had he commited to us.

(12-19-2013 11:40 AM)Racinejake Wrote:  

(12-19-2013 08:50 AM)cinbinsportsfan Wrote:  

(12-18-2013 05:10 PM)JackieTreehorn Wrote:  

(12-18-2013 04:49 PM)ThinkBigPine Wrote:  

(12-18-2013 04:30 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  When you steal $700 worth of electronics from various dorm rooms, that's probably a red flag.

I would absolutely love to have him back (as I think he's a better version of RDA4) but there's a metric ton of baggage with him. Clarke is all but a lock to the B1G by all indications, though he has the size, speed, and production to fill in nicely in the hole in our LB corps.

Also, wasn't Clinkscales the recruit who said our staff was talking Big12?

Haha yeah I'd say that is a huge red flag.

I liked Clarke when he originally committed and would love to bring him back in.

Yeah I believe it was Clinkscale.

Clinkscale is our DB coach who allegedly told a JUCO DT recruit that we were joining the B12 soon.

Steve Clinkscale is our DB. Terrell ClinkscaleS is the JUCO DT recruit. It is all kinds of hilarious to me that Clinkscale is recruiting a kid with almost the the exact same name.

Would've been really nice had he commited to us.

I haven't heard if he committed one way or the other but I believe it is between Nebraska and Kansas State.

(12-19-2013 11:43 AM)ThinkBigPine Wrote:  

(12-19-2013 11:40 AM)Racinejake Wrote:  

(12-19-2013 08:50 AM)cinbinsportsfan Wrote:  

(12-18-2013 05:10 PM)JackieTreehorn Wrote:  

(12-18-2013 04:49 PM)ThinkBigPine Wrote:  Haha yeah I'd say that is a huge red flag.

I liked Clarke when he originally committed and would love to bring him back in.

Yeah I believe it was Clinkscale.

Clinkscale is our DB coach who allegedly told a JUCO DT recruit that we were joining the B12 soon.

Steve Clinkscale is our DB. Terrell ClinkscaleS is the JUCO DT recruit. It is all kinds of hilarious to me that Clinkscale is recruiting a kid with almost the the exact same name.

Would've been really nice had he commited to us.

I haven't heard if he committed one way or the other but I believe it is between Nebraska and Kansas State.

Unfortunately he committed to Nebraska a few weeks ago.

Article from Berk on Scout about 3 early enrollees who just signed their LOI: Jarred Evans (JUCO), Linden Stephens (Prep) and Hayden Moore (HS). Glad to see both QBs enrolled early.


http://cincinnati.scout.com/2/1358538.html

(12-19-2013 01:39 PM)Racinejake Wrote:  Article from Berk on Scout about 3 early enrollees who just signed their LOI: Jarred Evans (JUCO), Linden Stephens (Prep) and Hayden Moore (HS). Glad to see both QBs enrolled early.


http://cincinnati.scout.com/2/1358538.html

I was hoping there would be more but hey I guess take what you can get. I thought maybe all the JUCO guys would be EE's.

As I posted a few pages earlier, EEs appeared to be a priority for Jones. He has 15 already in his upcoming class. Would have liked to see more in ours, but as you mentioned, take what you can get.

Those 3 EEs can apply to last year's class if there is room, correct?

Tuberville does not value EE's like Jones did. He also is not a fan of playing underclassmen. Tuberville has publically stated he thinks it is best for the student athlete to go through high school, go to prom and graduate with your classmates. He also thinks the freshmen need time to adjust to college life, being away from their families and mature physcially before hitting the field on Saturdays.

We only had a couple freshmen who were not redshirted this year and those that weren't were due to depth issues.

Edit: Rath, I believe you are correct about the EE and being backdated.

(12-19-2013 04:59 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Tuberville does not value EE's like Jones did. He also is not a fan of playing underclassmen. Tuberville has publically stated he thinks it is best for the student athlete to go through high school, go to prom and graduate with your classmates. He also thinks the freshmen need time to adjust to college life, being away from their families and mature physcially before hitting the field on Saturdays.

We only had a couple freshmen who were not redshirted this year and those that weren't were due to depth issues.

Edit: Rath, I believe you are correct about the EE and being backdated.

That kind of disappoints me if true. One of the easiest ways to sway a high-end prospect to come to any school is the promise of early playing time. If he's not telling recruits that, I think that would put Cincinnati at severe disadvantage.

I hope that is a a misquote as well.

He needs to be telling recruits, "get on campus early, bust your tail and show us what you are made of, and try to earn a spot on the 2 deep now."

(12-19-2013 06:56 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  I hope that is a a misquote as well.

He needs to be telling recruits, "get on campus early, bust your tail and show us what you are made of, and try to earn a spot on the 2 deep now."

Might explain all the swings and misses?

As I think of some early enrollees from the jones era how did they pan out? Buckley, coney and weatherford so two not with the program and jury is still out on coney.

(12-19-2013 04:59 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Tuberville does not value EE's like Jones did. He also is not a fan of playing underclassmen. Tuberville has publically stated he thinks it is best for the student athlete to go through high school, go to prom and graduate with your classmates. He also thinks the freshmen need time to adjust to college life, being away from their families and mature physcially before hitting the field on Saturdays.

We only had a couple freshmen who were not redshirted this year and those that weren't were due to depth issues.

Edit: Rath, I believe you are correct about the EE and being backdated.

He might be the only coach in the country to feel that way. That is a very strange stance to take in this day and age. It is a huge advantage for the kid to come in at mid-term and take part in bowl practice, spring practices and college life in general leading up to their first year on the field.

(12-19-2013 10:25 PM)@ES Trader Wrote:  As I think of some early enrollees from the jones era how did they pan out? Buckley, coney and weatherford so two not with the program and jury is still out on coney.

I'm not sure how it worked out for UC but it is a huge advantage to have kids come in as EE's and it's worked great for many schools. It is a big disadvantage if you have a coach who is against it.

Seems pretty silly to say CTT doesnt want mid year guys when he's taken them both years. This year they took 3 and would have taken 4-5 if things fell their way, Oklahoma took 2, FSU is taking 4-5 depending on Delvin Cook. Not everyone has a pathetic roster like UT and has enough scholarships to take 14 EE's.

UC had 9 guys graduate last week, they added Gunner Kiel, Eric Wilson, and McKay after signing day. They also should have Johnny Holton ready to roll when classes start again.

We have no real idea how many spots they have for each class and how many could be back dated to the 2013 class.

Its clear they wanted at least 1 mid year guy at quarterback b/c that was a big factor in going after Moore.

As far as him not liking to play underclassman I'm pretty sure he played who was healthy and who gave them the best chance to win. What young guy didnt play that should have been out there?

Let me clarify my earlier statement. What I heard Coach Tuberville say at two coach's shows is that it is ideal that a freshmen redshirt. However, as we know that does not always happen. Second, regarding EE I again am stating that he is speaking of the ideal situation. My overall point was that he was never going to play freshmen or accept EE. I am merely suggesting Butch Jones was the other extreme and we should expect to see less of it under Tuberville.

(12-20-2013 08:56 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Let me clarify my earlier statement. What I heard Coach Tuberville say at two coach's shows is that it is ideal that a freshmen redshirt. However, as we know that does not always happen. Second, regarding EE I again am stating that he is speaking of the ideal situation. My overall point was that he was never going to play freshmen or accept EE. I am merely suggesting Butch Jones was the other extreme and we should expect to see less of it under Tuberville.

Gotcha, thanks for the clarification. If that's the case, I totally agree with Tuberville's approach. Personally, unless the kid is such a high talent that you can't afford to keep him off the field, I much prefer slowing down the process by redshirting him to develop the freshman. Munchie Legaux is basically the perfect example of a wasted redshirt whereas Zach Edwards is a good example of a player who deserved to start as a true freshman.

Either way, as long as it works out, I probably shouldn't nitpick at his methodology.

(12-20-2013 09:29 AM)cinbinsportsfan Wrote:  Munchie Legaux is basically the perfect example of a wasted redshirt whereas Zach Edwards is a good example of a player who deserved to start as a true freshman.

Burning Munchies redshirt halfway through the 2010 season to play backup WR was one of the most idiotic things Butch did. I understand how low we were at that position but if you thought he had potential as a QB they should have played a walk on or have a DB go both ways before wasting that season.

Decision of a coach who knew he would already be gone by the time RS year became an issue?

(12-20-2013 09:48 AM)RealDeal Wrote:  

(12-20-2013 09:29 AM)cinbinsportsfan Wrote:  Munchie Legaux is basically the perfect example of a wasted redshirt whereas Zach Edwards is a good example of a player who deserved to start as a true freshman.

Burning Munchies redshirt halfway through the 2010 season to play backup WR was one of the most idiotic things Butch did. I understand how low we were at that position but if you thought he had potential as a QB they should have played a walk on or have a DB go both ways before wasting that season.

In hindsight sure, but they really had no other choice at the time. The depth he inherited at WR that year was horrible and as a few injuries started happening they were forced to move someone there just to have enough WR's out on the field.

(12-14-2013 09:11 PM)Racinejake Wrote:  Per Scout, MS RB J.T. Gray will visit in late January. Nice offer list.

http://cincinnati.scout.com/a.z?s=341&p=...id=6736353

Also visiting that same weekend as Gray is JC OT A.J. Allen. Looks like a solid offer list.

http://cincinnati.scout.com/a.z?s=341&p=...id=6988223