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NO POLITICS!

What grinds your gears? What happened today that really pissed you off? Got a story to tell? Let's have an open thread with NO POLITICS where you can get something off your chest.

NO POLITICS!

What grinds your gears?

People who don't do their jobs. I shouldn't have to call and e-mail multiple times to get you to do your job so I can do mine.

There was a Range Rover in front of me today and he had his rear fog lights on. They are freaking bright and very distracting.

http://www.rangerovers.net/forum/43-rang...ights.html

in the area of the 'burg I live called "the avenues", another sewer line fail this a.m.

driving in the ave's has become a slalom course over the last few years due to neglect, illegitimate spending, and lack of securing federal/state funds for projects that actually matter....

People that order fajitas in Mexican restaurants. I hate smelling like someone else's dinner.

Having an Individualized Education Plan (IEP) for your kid and having the teachers ignore it, despite your repeated reminders.

The whole medical industrial complex.

Wife tears up her knee. We go to the best regarded ortho for knees in the area. He does exam tells her she has a torn ACL and torn cartilage. Tries to schedule surgery and insurer won't approve it until there is a CT to prove it so we have to pay for a CT and surprise surprise she has a torn ACL and torn cartilage.

Wife has lower right quadrant pain, slight fever. Her doctor pokes around on her belly declares she has a hot appendix. He calls a surgeon and they are going to do the surgery in two hours at 1pm. While she's being prepped surgeon's PA pops in and says the insurance company won't authorize the surgery without a CT. So we wait until they can work her in, then wait for it to be read finally get the green light and has surgery at 4:30pm. An extra 3:30 of waiting an extra test and an extra doctor paid.

I take a migraine medicine that recently went off patent. While it was on patent I was paying over $200 for nine pills. When I had met my deductible I paid only $60. BUT HERE IS THE KICKER. The drug company offered a coupon program. Sign up and they offered a $10 co-pay later $4 if I had met my deductible or a $100 discount if I hadn't. So they were charging my insurance company like $240. So I'd pay $60 and insurance $180 if my deductible was met. With the coupon, I paid $4 and insurance $180. If I hadn't met my deductible instead of paying $240, I paid $140.
Three people on the same insurance in line at the pharmacy buying the same drug could result in the sale price being $240, $184, or $140 depending on whether they had signed up for the program or met their deductible.

I have seasonal asthma and once had pneumonia. Go to my doctor for annual check-up. My doctor suggests a pneumonia vaccine and says "I don't think we can give it to you today." Nurse pops in and I ask why I can't have the shot today. "If we give the vaccine during a regular visit, insurance will deny the charge for the vaccine. It has to be at a different time, they are hoping you won't get around to coming back for it."

Specialists can be hard to see. Husband of one of my wife's friends fell on the ice and hit his head. He was diagnosed with a slow brain leak. Told him to go see a neuro. Earliest appointment he could get was in 8 weeks. In the meantime "take it easy, avoid lifting and if you get a really bad headache or dizzy and start vomiting come back to the ER".

Wife was seeing a neuro they thought she might have epilepsy or a form of narcolepsy. Six weeks to get in for the first visit. Do a few tests, things are odd but don't fit anything exactly. For one test I have to prepay the hospital $600 then the test gets cancelled. Wife then has an unrelated issue goes to the hospital. Finally going back through all the bills I realize they are still holding my $600. Call the hospital, "Oh we hold that as a credit to apply to any other bills you have." I tell them that's really odd because it didn't get applied to her last visit. Lady says, "Oh so what is it you want? You want us to mail you a check?" I tell them yes I do since they weren't really using it as a credit against other charges.

The neuro dumps her off on a PA. They try several different medications over several visits and then I notice that the last two visits were billed as if she had seen the doctor instead of the PA. Call the clinic, they tell me I'm wrong, I tell them I am more than capable of distinguish between a 55ish year old man and a female in her mid 30's. They won't correct. So I call my insurance company and get a few bucks back from the extra I had paid but we aren't welcome at the clinic any more.

Now an insurance company is trying a pilot program where they will deny your claim for an ER visit based on the final diagnosis, not the symptoms that brought you there.

Have chest pain and shortness of breath but it turns out you have a really bad case of heartburn and not a heart attack? Denied
Left side weakness and loss of vision on the left and it turns out to be a migraine instead of a stroke? Denied.
Article linked, pain from ovarian cyst consistent with appendicitis? Denied. My wife has dealt with both and the cyst hurt much worse than the appendicitis.
Now they eventually paid for the lady but only after two appeals. Not everyone will be sharp enough to keep fighting.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/...ppropriate

Doesn't matter if you have symptoms that warrant an ER trip, you have to correctly determine on your own whether the symptoms are caused by something requiring urgent treatment or not, guess wrong and you are on the hook for thousands of dollars or choose to not go because you are afraid you will be stuck with a large bill, then have a heart attack, stroke, or ruptured appendix that will require even more expensive care... if you survive.

Beyond all that crap, treatment is often a mess. My mother broke her hip and she has Alzheimer's. Nurse left a tourniquet on her arm after a blood test for six hours. Her gown hid it and she was uncomfortable but couldn't process to tell us what was going on. Discovered it by accident. Later fell when she tried to get out of bed because they forgot to put the rails up. All in 24 hours.

For my wife it turned out she had autonomia and doesn't breath enough and heart doesn't beat enough when she sleeps. The heart issue resulted in several clots being thrown. Several instances of ischemic colitis and one minor stroke. First time she had ischemic colitis (essentially a stroke in the colon) nurse suggested that her report of shitting blood was from her period starting. Wife says "I know the difference between my ******* and my ****** and I've had a hysterectomy". Then well it was gastritis so gave her a GI cocktail and came back and in a vile and disgusting fake sweet voice chirps "Well feel all better now?" No I feel worse. Only then did the effers take it seriously. Finally got a gastro in and looking over the file says "Why did you take aspirin before coming in the ambulance?" Tell him the way she was acting I thought it might be a stroke or MI. "Well you probably saved her from wearing colostomy bag."

There are some incredibly great doctors and nurses out there because I've dealt with them.

But the entire business side of medicine is a damn cancer on the country.

(01-30-2018 09:33 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote: [ -> ]There was a Range Rover in front of me today and he had his rear fog lights on. They are freaking bright and very distracting.

http://www.rangerovers.net/forum/43-rang...ights.html

I had no idea such a thing existed as rear fog lights. Sounds as awful as the SOB who was running down the interstate with his off-road light bar on.

(01-30-2018 10:04 AM)bullet Wrote: [ -> ]Having an Individualized Education Plan (IEP) for your kid and having the teachers ignore it, despite your repeated reminders.

Had a teacher get po'd about our daughters IEP "I don't know why I should have to do all that."

"Because it is the law."

Hold 'em to it. My daughter ended up graduating college with a 3.3 and at graduation had cords on her robe and asked about it and she says "Oh I was in the Spanish Honor Society".

People at the gym that are using multiple machines at once.... and then they look at you all crazy when you ask them if they are still using one of them after they walk to another machine.

I lead a team of four engineers. Every week I ask for a status report because I have to put one together.

They are like 15 minutes of work which, yes, we all hate. But at the end of the day I get why people three levels above me need teams to roll up the status of our infrastructure.

So yesterday I have someone mail me, my boss, my bosses boss, my bosses bosses boss, and yes my bosses bosses bosses boss a note saying how hard the reports are too much, suck up too much time, and should be every other week.

That's right.... He sent a note up the chain of command all the way to the C-level over a 15 minute status report.

(01-30-2018 10:21 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote: [ -> ]People at the gym that are using multiple machines at once.... and then they look at you all crazy when you ask them if they are still using one of them after they walk to another machine.

There either doing circuit training or possible a super, tri or giant set. Most people are pretty practical in letting you work in with them-- however, I agree some people are a bit overly protective of what they perceive to be "their" equipment.

One of my biggest gym etiquette violations took place a few weeks ago when this guy did pushups horizontally in front of the dumbbell rack. On top of that he sat his gym bag on top the equipment, thus, wiping out at least 5-6 sets of dumbbells for anyone else to use. I rarely say anything in the gym, but I went into complete "Get off my lawn" mode on this guy.

(01-30-2018 10:43 AM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote: [ -> ]I lead a team of four engineers. Every week I ask for a status report because I have to put one together.

They are like 15 minutes of work which, yes, we all hate. But at the end of the day I get why people three levels above me need teams to roll up the status of our infrastructure.

So yesterday I have someone mail me, my boss, my bosses boss, my bosses bosses boss, and yes my bosses bosses bosses boss a note saying how hard the reports are too much, suck up too much time, and should be every other week.

That's right.... He sent a note up the chain of command all the way to the C-level over a 15 minute status report.

yessir....you defined what I do not miss in corpshite 'murica....

I had to deal with a local and two remote facilities.....

#hatedit

(01-30-2018 09:33 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote: [ -> ]There was a Range Rover in front of me today and he had his rear fog lights on. They are freaking bright and very distracting.

http://www.rangerovers.net/forum/43-rang...ights.html

Some hooptie was in front of me over the weekend and its reverse lights were stuck on, we were out on a lonely country road and they about blinded me.

(01-30-2018 10:43 AM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote: [ -> ]I lead a team of four engineers. Every week I ask for a status report because I have to put one together.

They are like 15 minutes of work which, yes, we all hate. But at the end of the day I get why people three levels above me need teams to roll up the status of our infrastructure.

So yesterday I have someone mail me, my boss, my bosses boss, my bosses bosses boss, and yes my bosses bosses bosses boss a note saying how hard the reports are too much, suck up too much time, and should be every other week.

That's right.... He sent a note up the chain of command all the way to the C-level over a 15 minute status report.

You reminded me of another gear-grinder I have. People that reply to an email that is not asking for a response with a "Reply to All".

I work in a large health care system that employees 35,000 people. We are also faith-based. On Veteran's Day one day one of the nuns sent out a company-wide email to honor veterans. At least 150 people responded with a "thanks" or "me too" to everyone in the system. We then got another 75 or so people telling people to stop hitting "reply to all". We then got another 40-50 "sorry about that's" or "my bad's".

I used to work with a guy whose favorite sports teams were the Yankees, Cowboys, Lakers, and Red Wings. I was like "so, let me guess, you're a big Notre Dame fan, aren't you?" and he said "Nope, Alabama baby!"... really grinded my gears!

(01-30-2018 10:09 AM)arkstfan Wrote: [ -> ]The whole medical industrial complex.

Wife tears up her knee. We go to the best regarded ortho for knees in the area. He does exam tells her she has a torn ACL and torn cartilage. Tries to schedule surgery and insurer won't approve it until there is a CT to prove it so we have to pay for a CT and surprise surprise she has a torn ACL and torn cartilage.

Wife has lower right quadrant pain, slight fever. Her doctor pokes around on her belly declares she has a hot appendix. He calls a surgeon and they are going to do the surgery in two hours at 1pm. While she's being prepped surgeon's PA pops in and says the insurance company won't authorize the surgery without a CT. So we wait until they can work her in, then wait for it to be read finally get the green light and has surgery at 4:30pm. An extra 3:30 of waiting an extra test and an extra doctor paid.

I take a migraine medicine that recently went off patent. While it was on patent I was paying over $200 for nine pills. When I had met my deductible I paid only $60. BUT HERE IS THE KICKER. The drug company offered a coupon program. Sign up and they offered a $10 co-pay later $4 if I had met my deductible or a $100 discount if I hadn't. So they were charging my insurance company like $240. So I'd pay $60 and insurance $180 if my deductible was met. With the coupon, I paid $4 and insurance $180. If I hadn't met my deductible instead of paying $240, I paid $140.
Three people on the same insurance in line at the pharmacy buying the same drug could result in the sale price being $240, $184, or $140 depending on whether they had signed up for the program or met their deductible.

I have seasonal asthma and once had pneumonia. Go to my doctor for annual check-up. My doctor suggests a pneumonia vaccine and says "I don't think we can give it to you today." Nurse pops in and I ask why I can't have the shot today. "If we give the vaccine during a regular visit, insurance will deny the charge for the vaccine. It has to be at a different time, they are hoping you won't get around to coming back for it."

Specialists can be hard to see. Husband of one of my wife's friends fell on the ice and hit his head. He was diagnosed with a slow brain leak. Told him to go see a neuro. Earliest appointment he could get was in 8 weeks. In the meantime "take it easy, avoid lifting and if you get a really bad headache or dizzy and start vomiting come back to the ER".

Wife was seeing a neuro they thought she might have epilepsy or a form of narcolepsy. Six weeks to get in for the first visit. Do a few tests, things are odd but don't fit anything exactly. For one test I have to prepay the hospital $600 then the test gets cancelled. Wife then has an unrelated issue goes to the hospital. Finally going back through all the bills I realize they are still holding my $600. Call the hospital, "Oh we hold that as a credit to apply to any other bills you have." I tell them that's really odd because it didn't get applied to her last visit. Lady says, "Oh so what is it you want? You want us to mail you a check?" I tell them yes I do since they weren't really using it as a credit against other charges.

The neuro dumps her off on a PA. They try several different medications over several visits and then I notice that the last two visits were billed as if she had seen the doctor instead of the PA. Call the clinic, they tell me I'm wrong, I tell them I am more than capable of distinguish between a 55ish year old man and a female in her mid 30's. They won't correct. So I call my insurance company and get a few bucks back from the extra I had paid but we aren't welcome at the clinic any more.

Now an insurance company is trying a pilot program where they will deny your claim for an ER visit based on the final diagnosis, not the symptoms that brought you there.

Have chest pain and shortness of breath but it turns out you have a really bad case of heartburn and not a heart attack? Denied
Left side weakness and loss of vision on the left and it turns out to be a migraine instead of a stroke? Denied.
Article linked, pain from ovarian cyst consistent with appendicitis? Denied. My wife has dealt with both and the cyst hurt much worse than the appendicitis.
Now they eventually paid for the lady but only after two appeals. Not everyone will be sharp enough to keep fighting.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/...ppropriate

Doesn't matter if you have symptoms that warrant an ER trip, you have to correctly determine on your own whether the symptoms are caused by something requiring urgent treatment or not, guess wrong and you are on the hook for thousands of dollars or choose to not go because you are afraid you will be stuck with a large bill, then have a heart attack, stroke, or ruptured appendix that will require even more expensive care... if you survive.

Beyond all that crap, treatment is often a mess. My mother broke her hip and she has Alzheimer's. Nurse left a tourniquet on her arm after a blood test for six hours. Her gown hid it and she was uncomfortable but couldn't process to tell us what was going on. Discovered it by accident. Later fell when she tried to get out of bed because they forgot to put the rails up. All in 24 hours.

For my wife it turned out she had autonomia and doesn't breath enough and heart doesn't beat enough when she sleeps. The heart issue resulted in several clots being thrown. Several instances of ischemic colitis and one minor stroke. First time she had ischemic colitis (essentially a stroke in the colon) nurse suggested that her report of shitting blood was from her period starting. Wife says "I know the difference between my ******* and my ****** and I've had a hysterectomy". Then well it was gastritis so gave her a GI cocktail and came back and in a vile and disgusting fake sweet voice chirps "Well feel all better now?" No I feel worse. Only then did the effers take it seriously. Finally got a gastro in and looking over the file says "Why did you take aspirin before coming in the ambulance?" Tell him the way she was acting I thought it might be a stroke or MI. "Well you probably saved her from wearing colostomy bag."

There are some incredibly great doctors and nurses out there because I've dealt with them.

But the entire business side of medicine is a damn cancer on the country.

Dayum.

People who don't stay to one side of the aisle at the grocery store and block the entire way while they look at the shelves like they are studying for a final exam.

People who go to Subway or any fast food, and don't know what's on the menu and take 15 minutes to order, and can't go three words without saying, ummm...

No oil in the engine.