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So I figured I'd offer my own challenge.

The premise is that the Power conferences are getting ready to create their own subdivision. They are leaving the majority of the G5 behind, but they are going to take a few with them. This subdivision will have its own champs-only playoff.

Here are the rules:

1. This upper division must consist of at least 70 schools, but no more than 80 schools.
2. The Big 12 must be completely eliminated.
3. There must be 4 conferences left in its wake, no more and no less.
4. Each addition must be somewhat reasonable given basic parameters of geography although a state being contiguous is not required.
5. The SEC and B1G are not allowed to lose schools in this scenario. The ACC and PAC are fair game.
6. The conferences do not have to be the same size.
(01-19-2018 05:24 PM)AllTideUp Wrote: [ -> ]So I figured I'd offer my own challenge.

The premise is that the Power conferences are getting ready to create their own subdivision. They are leaving the majority of the G5 behind, but they are going to take a few with them. This subdivision will have its own champs-only playoff.

Here are the rules:

1. This upper division must consist of at least 70 schools, but no more than 80 schools.
2. The Big 12 must be completely eliminated.
3. There must be 4 conferences left in its wake, no more and no less.
4. Each addition must be somewhat reasonable given basic parameters of geography although a state being contiguous is not required.
5. The SEC and B1G are not allowed to lose schools in this scenario. The ACC and PAC are fair game.
6. The conferences do not have to be the same size.

Ok I'll try:
First, the Big 12:
ACC: west virginia
PAC: Texas, Tech, TCU, Kansas State
SEC: OK, Ok State, Kansas
Big 10: Iowa State,

Baylor doesn't make the new division.

The ACC also takes ND. This is 64 teams. Rules require 70.

G5s:
ACC: Houston, UCF (18)
Big 10: UConn (16)
PAC: SDSU, BYU (football only) (18)
SEC: USF (18)

70 teams total.
(01-19-2018 07:33 PM)Soobahk40050 Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-19-2018 05:24 PM)AllTideUp Wrote: [ -> ]So I figured I'd offer my own challenge.

The premise is that the Power conferences are getting ready to create their own subdivision. They are leaving the majority of the G5 behind, but they are going to take a few with them. This subdivision will have its own champs-only playoff.

Here are the rules:

1. This upper division must consist of at least 70 schools, but no more than 80 schools.
2. The Big 12 must be completely eliminated.
3. There must be 4 conferences left in its wake, no more and no less.
4. Each addition must be somewhat reasonable given basic parameters of geography although a state being contiguous is not required.
5. The SEC and B1G are not allowed to lose schools in this scenario. The ACC and PAC are fair game.
6. The conferences do not have to be the same size.

Ok I'll try:
First, the Big 12:
ACC: west virginia
PAC: Texas, Tech, TCU, Kansas State
SEC: OK, Ok State, Kansas
Big 10: Iowa State,

Baylor doesn't make the new division.

The ACC also takes ND. This is 64 teams. Rules require 70.

G5s:
ACC: Houston, UCF (18)
Big 10: UConn (16)
PAC: SDSU, BYU (football only) (18)
SEC: USF (18)

70 teams total.

Big 12: dead ? xxx
SEC: OU, OSU
ACC: Notre Dame, West Virginia, UConn, Cincinnati
B1G: Kansas, UCLA, Stanford, Cal, Oregon, Washington, Colorado,
Big Southwest Pacific Conference:
1) West: Utah, Colorado State, Washington State, Oregon State, Arizona State, Arizona,
2) East: BYU, Boise State, Texas Tech, TCU, Kansas State, Iowa State
3) Partial: Texas, USC
(01-19-2018 05:24 PM)AllTideUp Wrote: [ -> ]So I figured I'd offer my own challenge.

The premise is that the Power conferences are getting ready to create their own subdivision. They are leaving the majority of the G5 behind, but they are going to take a few with them. This subdivision will have its own champs-only playoff.

Here are the rules:

1. This upper division must consist of at least 70 schools, but no more than 80 schools.
2. The Big 12 must be completely eliminated.
3. There must be 4 conferences left in its wake, no more and no less.
4. Each addition must be somewhat reasonable given basic parameters of geography although a state being contiguous is not required.
5. The SEC and B1G are not allowed to lose schools in this scenario. The ACC and PAC are fair game.
6. The conferences do not have to be the same size.


SEC:

East: Auburn, Clemson, Florida, Florida State, Georgia, South Carolina

Central: Alabama, Kentucky, N.C. State, Tennessee, Vanderbilt, Virginia Tech

West: Arkansas, L.S.U., Mississippi, Mississippi State, Missouri, Texas A&M


Big 10:

East: Duke, Maryland, North Carolina, Notre Dame, Rutgers, Virginia

Central: Indiana, Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Penn State, Purdue

West: Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, Nebraska, Northwestern, Wisconsin


PAC:

East: Iowa State, Kansas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas Tech

North: California, Oregon, Oregon State, Stanford, Washington, Washington State

South: Arizona, Arizona State, Cal Los Angeles, Colorado, Southern Cal, Utah


AAC:

North: Boston College, Connecticut, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, West Virginia

East: Central Florida, Georgia Tech, Louisville, Miami, South Florida, Wake Forest

West: Baylor, Brigham Young, Colorado State, Houston, Kansas State, T.C.U.


That's 72 schools and all we really need in the top 72. Boise State and San Diego State might make a claim, but if the PAC won't pick them up they are too far away to fit in the new P4 conference.
B1G
West: Washington, Washington St, Oregon, Oregon St, Utah, Colorado
South: California, Stanford, USC, UCLA, Arizona, Arizona St
Central: Nebraska, Iowa, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Illinois, Northwestern
North: Indiana, Purdue, Michigan, Michigan St, Ohio St, Penn St
East: Notre Dame, Pittsburgh, Maryland, Rutgers, Syracuse, Boston College

SEC
West: Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St, Kansas, Missouri
Central: Texas A&M, Arkansas, LSU, Mississippi, Mississippi St, Alabama
North: Virginia Tech, West Virginia, Kentucky, Louisville, Tennessee, Vanderbilt
South: Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Clemson, South Carolina, North Carolina St
East: Miami, Florida St, Georgia Tech, North Carolina, Duke, Virginia

PAC: San Diego St, UNLV, Boise St, BYU, Colorado St, New Mexico, Iowa St, Kansas St, Baylor, TCU

ACC: SMU, Houston, Memphis, Cincinnati, Temple, Connecticut, Wake Forest, East Carolina, South Florida, Central Florida

Hmmm...maybe not...
PAC

Pacific Division

Washington
Washington State
Oregon
Oregon State
California
Stanford
UCLA
Southern California
Arizona

Western Division

Arizona State
Colorado
Utah
BYU
Kansas State
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Texas
Texas Tech

SEC

Western Division

Texas A&M
Texas Christian
Arkansas
Missouri
Louisiana State
Ole Miss
Miss State
Alabama
Auburn

Eastern Division

Florida
Georgia
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
Kentucky
West Virginia
South Carolina
NC State
Virginia Tech

Big 10

Legend-wait for it-ary Division

Wisconsin
Minnesota
Nebraska
Iowa
Iowa State
Kansas
Illinois
Northwestern
Purdue

Dear Leader Division

Indiana
Michigan
Michigan State
Ohio State
Penn State
Maryland
Rutgers
Connecticut
Syracuse

ACC

Nearish The Atlantic Division

Boston College
Cincinatti
Note Dame
Temple
Virginia
North Carolina
Wake Forest
East Carolina
Duke

Sort of Coastal Division

Louisville
Clemson
Georgia Tech
Florida State
Miami
UCF
USF
Baylor
SMU
(01-20-2018 11:20 AM)10thMountain Wrote: [ -> ]PAC

Pacific Division

Washington
Washington State
Oregon
Oregon State
California
Stanford
UCLA
Southern California
Arizona

Western Division

Arizona State
Colorado
Utah
BYU
Kansas State
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Texas
Texas Tech

SEC

Western Division

Texas A&M
Texas Christian
Arkansas
Missouri
Louisiana State
Ole Miss
Miss State
Alabama
Auburn

Eastern Division

Florida
Georgia
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
Kentucky
West Virginia
South Carolina
NC State
Virginia Tech

Big 10

Legend-wait for it-ary Division

Wisconsin
Minnesota
Nebraska
Iowa
Iowa State
Kansas
Illinois
Northwestern
Purdue

Dear Leader Division

Indiana
Michigan
Michigan State
Ohio State
Penn State
Maryland
Rutgers
Connecticut
Syracuse

ACC

Nearish The Atlantic Division

Boston College
Cincinatti
Note Dame
Temple
Virginia
North Carolina
Wake Forest
East Carolina
Duke

Sort of Coastal Division

Louisville
Clemson
Georgia Tech
Florida State
Miami
UCF
USF
Baylor
SMU

+1 for B1G division names

Curious why SMU and Temple instead of Houston and Memphis?
Eh you could definitely swap those two in or any combo thereof and it'd work just as fine
I can't find more than 60 teams:

ACC
Notre Dame, Louisville, Boston College, Syracuse, Pittsburgh
VT, NC State, Wake Forest, Clemson, Florida State
UVa, Carolina, Duke, Georgia Tech Miami

SEC
Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Auburn Alabama
West Virginia Kentucky, Tennessee, Vanderbilt,Missouri
Ole Miss, Mississippi State, LSU, Texas A&M, Arkansas

B1G
Kansas, Nebraska, Minnesota, Iowa, Wisconsin
Rutgers, Maryland, Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan State
Michigan, Indiana, Purdue, Illinois, Northwestern

Big PAC
Texas, Texas Tech, TCU, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State
Colorado, Utah, Arizona, Arizona State, UCLA
USC, Stanford, Cal, Washington, Oregon
(01-20-2018 10:29 PM)XLance Wrote: [ -> ]I can't find more than 60 teams:

ACC
Notre Dame, Louisville, Boston College, Syracuse, Pittsburgh
VT, NC State, Wake Forest, Clemson, Florida State
UVa, Carolina, Duke, Georgia Tech Miami

SEC
Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Auburn Alabama
West Virginia Kentucky, Tennessee, Vanderbilt,Missouri
Ole Miss, Mississippi State, LSU, Texas A&M, Arkansas

B1G
Kansas, Nebraska, Minnesota, Iowa, Wisconsin
Rutgers, Maryland, Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan State
Michigan, Indiana, Purdue, Illinois, Northwestern

Big PAC
Texas, Texas Tech, TCU, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State
Colorado, Utah, Arizona, Arizona State, UCLA
USC, Stanford, Cal, Washington, Oregon

Well, there's 10 more hiding somewhere. You're going to have to keep looking.
(01-20-2018 10:29 PM)XLance Wrote: [ -> ]I can't find more than 60 teams:

ACC
Notre Dame, Louisville, Boston College, Syracuse, Pittsburgh, Navy
VT, NC State, Wake Forest, Clemson, Florida State, Uconn
UVa, Carolina, Duke, Georgia Tech, Miami, Tulane

SEC
Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Auburn Alabama, USF
West Virginia Kentucky, Tennessee, Vanderbilt,Missouri, Iowa State
Ole Miss, Mississippi State, LSU, Texas A&M, Arkansas, Baylor

B1G
Kansas, Nebraska, Minnesota, Iowa, Wisconsin, Kansas State
Rutgers, Maryland, Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan State, Temple
Michigan, Indiana, Purdue, Illinois, Northwestern, Cincinnati

Big PAC
Texas, Texas Tech, TCU, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Houston
Colorado, Utah, Arizona, Arizona State, UCLA, Washington State
USC, Stanford, Cal, Washington, Oregon, Oregon State

Well there you go in order to fall within the "rules", but it was impossible to improve on perfection.
In general, I just don’t see any “historical” power schools being left out. New power schools and last generation Big East schools seem to be the most vulnerable.
I doubt Ala or Ohio state want a system where you have to win your conf to get a shot at National title.
Prob true statement for OLK, Tex, ND, USC, and a few others as well.
SEC (20)

Florida, Georgia, Tennessee, SC, Kentucky

Alabama, Auburn, LSU, USF, UCF

A&M, Arkansas, Ole Miss, Miss State, Vanderbilt

Oklahoma, Texas, Missouri, Kansas, Oklahoma State

B1G (15)

Penn State, Ohio State, Maryland, Rutgers, UCONN

Michigan, Michigan State, Indiana, Purdue, Northwestern

Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, Nebraska, Illinois

PAC (18)

Stanford, Cal, Oregon, Washington, Washington State, Oregon State

USC, UCLA, Arizona, Arizona State, Utah, TT

Colorado, Kansas State, Iowa State, Houston, TCU, Baylor

ACC (18)

FSU, Clemson, GT, Louisville, Cincinnati, Memphis

NC, Duke, Virginia, WF, VT, NC State

ND, Miami, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, BC, WV

All B12 schools placed in a 71 school P4. USF, UCF, UCONN, Cincinnati , Memphis & Houston move up. Conference SF are added for 3+ division conferences, hence UCONN to the B1G.







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